Fall Camp Presser 8-15-16: Jim Harbaugh Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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You mentioned at media day that year two makes things so much easier—or more familiar, I should say. How’s it feeling?

“No, not easier. But feeling good right now. Coming off of a very good practice today, so feel good about the way our guys are working. Feel really good about the way we practiced today. There was quite a bit of good scrimmaging. Feel like our team is building a callus now that bodes very well for us. I mean, it was not. It was a little more [purulent] than about a week ago, but now it’s starting to harden. Feel good about that.”

Your quarterbacks now compared to a year ago: do you feel like they’re about where they were or in the system for a year, does that help them?

“Definitely has helped them. Right now we’re—I hate to compare—but we’re better. We’re better at that position than we were eight, nine days into camp last year.”

Have you narrowed it down? Is it down to two guys? Have a rank order?

“Yeah, not just two. I mean, Shane Morris is doing good, having a good camp. Wilton Speight’s having an outstanding camp. John O’Korn’s having a very good camp. The quarterback play’s been really good in camp, right from the first day. Been very pleased with that. They’ve…they’re completing balls, they’re running the team, they know what they’re doing. They’re competing at a good, high level. It’s been good. Yeah.

“I’m trying to think through different camps. I’ve said it to myself: this group of quarterbacks is playing really well. Better than most camps that I’ve seen from the start. Sometimes they struggle with their accuracy and struggle with different things, communicating, fumbled snaps on the ground. We haven’t been seeing that. We’ve been seeing solid play that’s improving, too. It started good and it’s getting better every day. Hope we’ll be better tomorrow than we were today, but we had a good day today.”

Are there any other positions where you’re seeing as fierce a competitive battle as you are at quarterback?

“Uh, there’s…there’s some good play. Some good—young guys are playing very well. Devin Asiasi had a heck of a day today. Michael Onwenu is somebody I’m—you know, he’s one of my favorites. Doing a heck of a good job. Ben Bredeson is doing an outstanding job. Rashan Gary is a really good football player. The young linebackers are playing really well. The young receivers are doing a heck of a good job. Chris Evans is maybe one of the most outstanding of them all. Khaleke Hudson’s doing an outstanding job. Dylan Crawford’s doing a good job. So, yeah, it’s been good. Quinn Nordin’s doing an outstanding job. Those guys, some really good players in that class have heated some of the competitive waters at multiple positions. It’s a good thing.”

How many freshmen do you expect to play this year?

“Right now it’s competitive and I don’t see any of our older guys just giving their jobs away. Don’t see that happening. Not through the nine practices. Not saying that for one minute, so it’s still to be determined. There’s some competitive, heated-up waters. More than you see on really probably any team I’ve ever been on where a group of new guys…they’re showing that they’re on track to be either starters or backup players. It’s still to be determined.

“They’ve got to do it over the course of the next couple weeks, but it’ll be exciting to watch. Some of them will, some of them won’t. The best players are going to play, regardless of class year that they’re in. As I’ve said, we’ve got a lot of veteran players who like their starting jobs. It’ll be a battle.”

Last year you waited until the first snap at Utah to reveal the starting lineup. Do you imagine that’ll be the same this season, too, with the quarterbacks and rest of the roster?

“I haven’t decided yet.”

[After THE JUMP: I guess you could say this press conference was…[/puts on sunglasses] suspended.]

How do you like your fullbacks at this point?

“Good. Yeah. There’s…we can—nobody’s really taken that job over yet, but there’s the guys that are really competing at it: Hill, Poggi, Hirsch is doing a nice job, and so is Bobby Henderson. Yeah, just keep—Hirsch is improving every day. He’s getting his football legs back under him, but…caught a pass in the flat and took a nice hit on the boundary when he turned it up and got up with a smile on his face and a little cut on his nose and he was smiling, so I think he likes being back in football.

“It rages on. We’re still early. This is really a good nine practices in, so still 20 to go. Nothing’s been—there have been some things decided, but not everything.”

In terms of offensive line, Grant Newsome, you’ve talked about him a little bit and Mason Cole moving over to center—what have you noticed out of those guys? Before your arrival the offensive line was a work in progress. What’s the progress you’ve seen from those guys from last year up until now?

“It’s been improving. It’s a good group to work with because there’s that group that’s older and has played together for a long time, played in a lot of games. And then there’s another group that’s real young and showed that they have what it takes. And then there’s a good group of preferred walk-ons that came in with this class that are doing a really nice job: Robinson, Vastardis, Kay.

“So there’s a whole other group and a young group. Ben Bredenson is—did I mention Ben? I hope I did before because he has really been good and outstanding. Played guard, started at guard and now he’s playing tackle and he’s got a really bright future. Mike Onwenu—I mean, he could be a contributor on either side of the ball. I think he’s that good.”

Is he working on both?

“He is, yeah. He’s going to school, he’s taking tests, and he’s playing both ways. He might just be my favorite guy right now. He’s awesome. I love—I really like him a lot.”

What’s the thought process behind having players compete for jersey numbers? There are several with #1, several with #10. Why are you doing that?

“Multiple people wanted the same number and rather than be the person who promises somebody that they would get that number or try to be the picker of who will be the more deserving person to have their preferred number, any number that wasn’t already taken by somebody that was playing in games would compete for the right to wear that number and who’s ever going to play first, whosever is going to play in the first game first will get that number and the others will switch to a different number. I think it’s right. I think it’s fair.

“Told everybody that up front. Here’s the open numbers, and they can compete for that number if they want. There’s a few numbers that…there’s three, maybe. 10 is one, number 1 is one, couple guys wearing 2. They seem to like the lower numbers, which is interesting. Back when I played nobody really liked the single digits. Now the times have changed. People like the lower numbers.”

In the spring, you said you were happy with Moe Ways’ progress and then obviously had the foot injury. How does he look so far? Is he back to full speed, where you saw him before the injury?

“Yeah, Moe hasn’t missed a day. Moe’s done a nice job and doesn’t seem to be having any ill effects from the injury that he sustained in the spring. The play he got hurt was a touchdown pass. Then broke the fifth metacarpal in his foot, but he’s showing no signs of it lingering or it slowing him down.”

There were three freshmen missing from the team picture: Shelton Johnson, Kareem Walker, [Ahmir] Mitchell. Are they on the team? Is there any discipline with them and what’s the reason? Has the roster changed at all since we were given it?

“I don’t think you have your information right.”

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: Ah, football season is truly upon us now. The playful banter, the result of the never-ending cat and mouse game, is back.]

They weren’t in the photo.

“Who’d you say?”

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: He’s more receptive to straightening this out than you’d think he’d be.]

Kareem Walker, Shelton Johnson, and Ahmir Mitchell. Is there a reason for it?

“No, they were all invited to it.”

Are they all currently in good standing? Are they with the program?

“Uh, there’s…two of those players are suspended.”

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: That’s…that’s actually more than I thought he’d say. New season, new leaf, I guess.]

Who are they?

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: Oh no. No no no. Why is his brow furrowing? Wait, is that a brow furrow/smirk combo?]

“Uh…you know, I know you like to ask a lot of questions, but we’ll just handle that internally.”

How long of a suspension are those guys out for?

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: Whoahoho that is fire in his eyes, literal fire.]

“That’s why I don’t give you any information, because you’re never satisfied. You always want a second question, a third question, a fourth question. I just said we’d handle it internally. Thank you.

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: That looks like the way you shift your weight when you’re about to take a step forward but—]

“Good? Thanks a lot.”

[MGoStreamOfConsciousness: Oh, okay, yeah, that’s definitely a step forward and I’m directly in the path he’s trying to use to walk out better not turn this into an awkward left-right-left shuffle that middle-of-the-hallway walkers do when they run into each other turn sideways now Adam TURN SIDEWAYS welp he’s gone.]

Comments

A Fan In Fargo

August 16th, 2016 at 2:24 PM ^

Geez reporters are pathetic. Do some work and figure it out on your own lazy ass bitches. Find another source besides the head coach. If its that important of news you can find it somewhere I'm sure. When you want a loan at a bank, do you go straight to the CEO? I tell ya what. Every day that passes, people never cease to amaze me. Graduates of ND, MSU and Ohio I'm sure.

Adam Schnepp

August 16th, 2016 at 1:43 PM ^

I tweeted about who was suspended but didn't say that Harbaugh walked out because by the time I looked down at my timeline every other beat writer had already done so. I knew how I wanted to cover him walking out, and it was using the MGoStreamOfConsciousness.

A lot of times I don't tweet things when I see the same info eight or nine times in a row on my TL because I assume you guys follow other beat reporters as well and I don't want to clog it up with the exact same stuff. I try to stick to quotes I find funny or really big pieces of information. Now I'm curious: do you guys follow almost all the people who cover the Michigan beat, a select few, or just MGoBloggers?

Farnn

August 16th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^

When will reporters learn to stop prying and tick Harbaugh off?  Does the reporter who set him off get the stink eye from everyone else there who had questions to ask?

stephenrjking

August 16th, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^

It's their job. I'm glad they're doing it. They're supposed to ask those questions, they're supposed to try to dig for information, they're supposed to follow up. And Harbaugh is supposed to furrow his brow and act like they're speaking an obscure dialect of Cantonese.

We eventually got the information. I doubt we hear a clear answer about Mitchell and Johnson if that reporter doesn't ferret it out.

csmhowitzer

August 16th, 2016 at 12:56 PM ^

Yeah, it was actually a good question to ask. Compare that to "How do you like your fullbacks?" It was pointed and if answered would provide a lot of detail with few words spoken. The other question is open-ended and feels like the person asking it just wants Harbaugh to write his/her story for them.

Crisler 71

August 16th, 2016 at 4:26 PM ^

There were three freshmen missing from the team picture: Shelton Johnson, Kareem Walker, [Ahmir] Mitchell. Are they on the team? Is there any discipline with them and what’s the reason? Has the roster changed at all since we were given it?

“I don’t think you have your information right.”

They weren’t in the photo.

“Who’d you say?”

Kareem Walker, Shelton Johnson, and Ahmir Mitchell. Is there a reason for it?

“No, they were all invited to it.”

Are they all currently in good standing? Are they with the program?

“Uh, there’s…two of those players are suspended.”

Who are they?

 “Uh…you know, I know you like to ask a lot of questions, but we’ll just handle that internally.”

How long of a suspension are those guys out for?

We’re handling it internally.

Are they practicing while on suspension?

We’re handling it internally.

Are they going to miss any games?

We’re handling it internally.

Which two are suspended?

We’re handling it internally.

Does it have to do with academics?

We’re handling it internally.

Were they drinking?

We’re handling it internally.

etc.

Glennsta

August 16th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

Seriously, if 3 guys aren't there, nobody is supposed to ask?  Ask yourself if it were a rival's program, you wouldn't want to know?

I mean, I trust JH to deal with whatever it is the right way, but someone had to ask.  And I hope they follow up as time goes on, at the end of the presser, I hope. 

 

dragonchild

August 16th, 2016 at 1:26 PM ^

And Harbaugh answered the question.

They asked a follow-up question, which was also fine, and he said "we'll handle it internally".  That's codespeak but hardly subtle -- the line is right here.  Do not cross it.  It's hardly his words.  That's universal coachspeak for we're done here.

They crossed it anyway.  Press conference over.  Hope the jackass who asked the last question feels good about it, because otherwise it was a complete waste of time.

I Like Burgers

August 16th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^

Their job is to get info and press for answers. "We'll handle it internally" doesn't answer the question. And that response itself was the result of a follow up. If reporters don't piss off the subjects from time to time they aren't doing their job right. When you get too buddy buddy with the coaches and worry about hurting feelings or losing access, that's how you wind up with situations like Baylor or Penn State. A whole press corp afraid to dig and look for answers or even the right questions to ask.



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dragonchild

August 16th, 2016 at 2:23 PM ^

Don't conflate "get info" with "press for answers", and don't conflate wasting people's time with diligence.  The upside here for "teh story" is that Harbaugh misspeaks, which is the sort of thing reporters have wet dreams over, except the information you get is seldom useful either way.

If Harbaugh's hiding a scandal then bust him for it, but if that's the suspicion then this is precisely the way to NOT go about it.  The "keep pecking at a single thing until he snaps" gimmick is a favorite weapon among celebrity gossip rags.  It's not investigative journalism, so don't pretend it is.  There are more productive ways of getting info, but they involve more work than showing up and taking over a camp presser for your expose.

No, this was the "doing their job" equivalent of power cycling the modem a third time because real troubleshooting is hard and stuff.  Again, first two questions were OK.  It was good to ask.  But IF you think he's hiding something then the rest is just a farce, but reporters insist on continuing the farce anyway.  That's not "doing their job"; that's just lazy spectacle.  It's just a tired dog-and-pony routine involving minimal effort to look studious without actually doing anything.

WolvinLA2

August 16th, 2016 at 2:36 PM ^

I agree with this completely. As a sales person, heard other reps hide behind "I'm just doing my job" far too many times when they're annoying someone. That's a cop out. These journalists' jobs are to cover Michigan football. They're aren't uncovering Watergate here. You take what the coach gives you. If he doesn't want to give it to you, move on.

dragonchild

August 16th, 2016 at 3:04 PM ^

Well, let's even wildly assume for the moment that these suspensions are related to some kind of buried scandal that is on par with Watergate.  Well, it's still bullshit because they didn't uncover that scandal at a White House Press Conference.

Asking is fine, but pestering the person you suspect is Ground Zero for a major scandal isn't investigative journalism.  It's just show.  If anything you just tipped your hand.  If you think Harbaugh is harboring rapists and murderers and terrorists in his camp, then GTFO of camp and hit the damn beat.

ahw1982

August 16th, 2016 at 6:46 PM ^

Didn't seem like pestering from the transcript.  Someone asked about the names of those suspended, JH didn't want to say.  I think it's fair to follow up with a question along the lines of "OK, if you're not willing to say who, can you say what they did?"  Reporter could've asked it a more diplomatic way, but they're well within their right to probe.  JH is within his right to leave--which was the correct move since it sends a message to the reporters that JH is in control of this game and you play by his rules.  But I don't fault the reporters for probing at all.  I don't think anyone did anything "wrong" in this sequence.

Richard75

August 20th, 2016 at 8:55 PM ^

Have to disagree with that a little.

The European reporter who broke the FIFA scandal said his whole investigation started by deliberately provoking Blatter at a press conference. (He flat-out asked Blatter if he'd ever taken a bribe.) This, he said, was done not to get a real answer but to signal to disaffected underlings that he's the man to go to. And sure enough, they started feeding him info on the down-low.

Now, granted, covering FIFA corruption is a long way from Michigan football, but there can be a legitimate purpose for torpedoing a press conference.



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reshp1

August 16th, 2016 at 1:01 PM ^

Nick Baumgardner has been sluething the missing freshmen story for a couple weeks now. He either asked the first question or was the follow-up. I agree with some of the posters above, that that's his job to ask and Harbaugh's job to refuse to answer and get pissed off. 

Leonhall

August 16th, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^

was when the reporter suggested that 3 players weren't in the team photo, Jim's response, with a perplexed look...."They were all invited."  LMAO....

stephenrjking

August 16th, 2016 at 12:48 PM ^

I feel like comments about players that aren't prompted by direct questions (i.e. "How's Rashan Gary doing?" "He's a great player") are more reliable, because they come naturally to his mind. A question about competition at positions that prompts him to rattle off a bunch of freshmen he's impressed with? Maybe he just thought it was time for a "I love all my players" news dump, or maybe he's really impressed with a bunch of those guys.

I favor the latter interpretation. Because that would be awesome.