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Via weird Twitter release (@qbforce) last night:

-Immediate Press/Sports Release: January 20, 2011- Robert “Tate” Forcier University Of Michigan Sophomore Quarterback

Why do we all wait until we are at our lowest point to seek God’s help?

I’ve been kicked, pushed, knocked down, publicly berated, belittled, emasculated and more. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to give up or feel the victim. The humility of it all is indescribable and that is exactly my point. I had to reach rock bottom in order to see the light, and for that, I am thankful. It was not until then, I realized that it was my lack of accountability and maturity and not to pass blame.

I do hope all my young fans forgive me and benefit from my lessons that I have learned. Be grateful for what you have and be humble for your successes. Don’t wait to ask God into your life as he will help you see things clearer.

In summary, I believe, I will become a better student and a person of stronger character from these experiences at Michigan. I can proudly state,“I worked hard on the practice field, in the film room and at meetings” after all, football is my passion. I had fun celebrating with the fans. I even competed hard while injured as a true freshman through the last (8) games in 2009, but I always played the game giving it my all.

I am proud to have been part of Michigan Football history and will always cherish the memory. The last few weeks I worked extremely hard to catch back up. I really wanted to stay. I was not giving up on Michigan, but in the end, it was made clear they had given up on me.

With that being said, its time for me to go. I promise the Michigan family and fans I will make you proud again.

Tate Forcier #5 - A Michigan Man Forever - Go Blue

This has been rumored for weeks, and confirmed, in part, by David Brandon at the Brady Hoke introductory presser. From the looks of things, his dad's statement that he'd try to return to the team is no longer an option, and Tate is permanently gone.

This makes Michigan's need for quarterbacks in the 2011 and 2012 classes enormous, as Denard Robinson and Devin Gardner are the only signal-callers left on the roster. An elite player is reasonable (and necessary) in the 2012 class.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:40 AM | Sorry to see him go, really. (Score:1)
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Sorry to see him go, really.  I will always love the "stars" on our worst teams, and Tate bought in from the get-go.  He obviously matured, going from petulant child to great teammate, and when he was needed to go into the game, he usually made good things happen.

"And they'll never catch him!"

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:58 AM | Sad also (Score:1)
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Sad also to see him go.  Hopefully this situation will give him 2 more years at starting QB, the time to catch up with his academics, and the time to mature in all aspects, no just football.  Best of luck to Tate.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:14 AM | Forcier says the university (Score:1)
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Forcier says the university gave up on him.  I would like to know how?

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:03 AM | I don't know if your question was a rehetorical one, (Score:1)
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or not.  It should not be merely rhetorical.

It is a perfectly good, legitimate question.  What is Forcier's side of the story?  I'd like to give him the benefit of a legitimately fair opportunity to answer, because this team, right now, is a more vulnerable football team without Tate Forcier as a backup option.

 

 

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January 20th, 2011 at 1:20 PM | DG is going to be a great player (Score:1)
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He'd have taken the backup job this year regardless.  I love Tate, always will, but with three great QBs on the roster, he would have been the last in.  Almost happened this year.  Probably the best for Tate as a football player, but I wish he would have stayed

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January 20th, 2011 at 2:02 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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slatersgonnaslate

Spartan's Alphabet: ADEFGHIJKLMNOPQRTUVWXYZ.
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January 20th, 2011 at 9:43 AM | WTF (Score:1)
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I have so many questions ... Why exactly is he leaving - did he really flunk out or is there more going on?

Also, given the timing of this ... almost looks like drunk texting gone wrong. Except his spelling is better than mine when I'm drunk.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | Hope he lands somewhere (Score:1)
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He certainly gave us some thrills.

Preparation is not suddenly accomplished, it is a process steadily maintained.
 

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:52 AM | My favorite Tate moment (Score:1)
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his TD run on 4th down against Notre Dame in 2009. One of the sickest fakes I have ever witnessed.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies." - Kenny Powers

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:19 AM | I thought my ankles were broken after that. (Score:1)
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And I was just watching.

M'Dog

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January 20th, 2011 at 3:59 PM | he read cover zero. (Score:1)
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he read cover zero.

EVER HEARD A BABY CRY AT NIGHT?
HOW ABOUT AN OWL?
HOOT HOOT
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January 20th, 2011 at 10:18 AM | Deleware! (Score:1)
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It would be great to see Tate still playing in the winged helmet.  And those guys play for National Championships.

K.C. Keeler and staff do a great job in developing FBS castoffs into top-notch QB's.

M'Dog

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | Bill Murray sums it up (Score:1)
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No radio. Nothing of value.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | I wonder (Score:1)
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Having only one backup, I wonder what kind of impact this is going to make on Borges calling plays that are designed for Denard to run?  I hope that will not become an excuse to justify not running Denard.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:11 AM | I would like to see one of the recruits (Score:1)
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that have played QB in High school just learn the position as a "just in case" measure. Maybe Desmond Morgan?

GRwolverine73

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:59 AM | Jack Kennedy is still on the (Score:1)
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Jack Kennedy is still on the roster, no?

I hope to be like dang for large sections of the season.

You come at the king, you best not miss.
 

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:23 AM | He is (Score:1)
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And from what he looked like in last years spring game, he might actually be able to run the offense well. I hope it never comes to it but I am actually much more confident in a redshirt junior Kennedy's ability than I was with Threet or Sheridan. Of course, having 10 players around him who are better has a lot to do with that as well.

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January 20th, 2011 at 2:28 PM | That was the first thing I (Score:1)
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That was the first thing I thought of when I saw Tim say

 

This makes Michigan's need for quarterbacks in the 2011 and 2012 classes enormous, as Denard Robinson and Devin Gardner are the only signal-callers left on the roster.

You can't leave out Jack Kennedy.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:48 AM | Michigan does not give up on people (Score:1)
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I am sorry to see him go, but it is clear he will never have the attitude to push forward against adversity.  The victim mentality works great on Oprah.  It doesn't take you far in athletics or other pursuits.   

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:09 AM | Way to kick a guy when he's (Score:1)
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Way to kick a guy when he's down, Geek. 

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:58 AM | Don't be the jilted ex. (Score:1)
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Apparently you forgot how much of an emotional disaster you were as a teenager........ and that was without you being QB1 of the Michigan football team as a true freshmen only to be demoted to a distant second string as a sophomore.

Go out and get yourself a pint of Ben & Jerry's, get bundled up in your Snuggie, put in your favorite chick flick, shed some tears, and move on.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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January 20th, 2011 at 4:51 PM | FWIW, I'm going to take his (Score:1)
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FWIW, I'm going to take his word.  It might be true he will now ever have the opportunity to push through adversity at Michigan.  It is unfair to say that he doesn't have the attitude to push through adversity at another institution.  I think Tate deserves the benefit of the doubt that he has matured.  At least I feel like I owe him that for what he has done for our football program. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:49 AM | Best wishes to Tate. (Score:1)
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I'll miss the excitement of Tate coming into the game and giving us some "oooh" and "aaah" and "oh shit" moments.  He certainly kept it interesting, and I always thought he left it all on the field.

That being said, I hope he can straighten out whatever issues he has and find success.  I will be openly rooting for him wherever he lands.

I do have one question, though - why have all three Forcier brothers now transferred from their original school?

"I am delighted to have you play football. I believe in rough, manly sports."
 - Theodore Roosevelt

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:15 AM | * (Score:1)
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Playing time.

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:15 AM | The father (Score:1)
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I think that the reason that all 3 kids ended up transferring was because of the father.  From everything that I have read, he is an extreme version of a "stage mom," who has been pushing his kids from day 1, micro-managing their football careers, and generally controlling their lives.

The problem with this type of upbringing is that the father always thinks that he knows best, and when the kid isn't being played enough or in such a manner as the father deems appropriate, the father either tries to interfere or looks for another school where he thinks the kid will get the treatment that he deserves.  I think that is part of the issue here.

With Tate, specifically, he was home schooled for a good portion of his high school years.  From what I have read on this blog and others, his high school life was football, and nothing more.  Going from that to a campus with 40,000+ kids his age, half of them girls, with a ton of attention and freedom is a recipe from problems.

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:26 AM | well (Score:1)
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Obviously the way someone was raised makes a big difference. But the father is probably one of the few reasons Tate hadn't transferred already. Most of this belief comes from reading between the lines but Tate seemed to make statements about leaving a few times and his dad was always there to say Tate isn't going anywhere. If I had to guess the father has been the one convincing Tate to stay this long.

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:36 AM | that is very well true - but not inconsistend (Score:1)
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with the whole stage mom thing - maybe this was Tate's concious or unconcious rebellion against his father - like Shakespear's play about the Football Dad and his son.

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:55 AM | Something deeper (Score:1)
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The tone of Tate's words make me think he's wrestling with something far deeper than football or grades. Whatever that is, we can only hope he solves it and finds a peace that is far more important than athletic success. God speed and fair play to him. 

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:56 AM | Thanks for the memories, Tate (Score:1)
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Good luck in the future.

Christ in me arise and dispel all the darkness.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:57 AM | Best of Luck to him wherever (Score:1)
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Best of Luck to him wherever he ends up and as long as it's not someplace awful like tOSU I'll root for him. 

Thanks for Notre Dame and Indiana 09' and Illinois 10'.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:58 AM | This sucks - best wishes to Tate wherever he ends up (Score:1)
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Tate brought tons of excitement to this fanbase, and is one heck of an accurate passer. He's definitely fun to watch on the field. His freshman year yielded many, many "oh no he didn't" moments (good and bad, of course, but so many good ones).

What bums me the most is that he would have been a GERAT asset moving forward with our transition. When reading Brian's assessment of Al Borges' offense, how can you not think of Tate?

I'd say the prototypical Borges offense is one with an accurate (and not necessarily strong-armed) pocket passer.

Doesn't this suck. Like RR, I wish him nothing but the best and will root for him wherever he ends up (as long as he is not playing us, of course).

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:20 AM | What evidence in the 2009 and (Score:1)
jg2112
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What evidence in the 2009 and 2010 seasons was there to indicate Tate Forcier was a pocket passer? Denard and Devin both have shown more discipline to stay in the pocket than Tate.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:34 AM | Accuracy (Score:1)
Phoenix
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When Tate threw it, it always seemed to be between the numbers. I was constantly impressed with his accuracy. But maybe that was because I was comparing him to Threet/Sherridan.

I love Denard, but am not in love with his accuracy. Tate DEFINITELY scrambles too much, and needs to stay in the pocket more. But in 2009 he was a true freshman relying on skills that he was able to devour the competition with in high school, and in 2010 he didn't play much. I am not positive he would have learned to stay in the pocket more as an upperclassman, but his accuracy would not have dissapeared.

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January 20th, 2011 at 9:59 AM | I have four words for Tate: (Score:1)
ItsaDamnGame
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Grand Valley State University.

-The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:38 AM | Yeah, that. (Score:1)
justthinking
Joined: 09/16/2009
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Having graduated from there, I'd say the same thing.

Manageable classloads. Great football program. Closer to the beach - lol.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:00 AM | An interesting goodbye (Score:1)
Clayzer
Joined: 12/09/2008
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His goodbye message is kind of all over the place. He lists the reasons he's a victim, but then says he isn't playing the victim card. I do like his approach about others learning from his mistakes, and wish him the best going forward. Sounds like there is no ill feelings towards Michigan, although I'm sure there must be some.

I'm not surprise that Tate is gone, but I am disappointed. After reading the Detroit News interview, I thought maybe he'd finally gotten things figured out, only to hear a few days later that he would be missing the bowl game. Hopefully he does get things figured out wherever he goes, and can continue to show that moxie that we had all grown used to

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:41 AM | I like Tate - but others cannot learn from his mistakes (Score:1)
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if he doesnt tell what his mistakes were.  At this stage it is shrouded in mystery. 

Tate's problem is that his words never really matched his actions.

I wish him luck and will root for him wherever he ends up.  Kid provided some hope to a beleagured fan-base last year.  Epic games against ND, Indiana, and Illinois this year.  Glad he stuck it out this year. 

APR takes another hit.

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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January 20th, 2011 at 5:06 PM | Too much spin for me (Score:1)
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IMHO, the message, especially the end, is really disappointing.  It is easy forTate to spin this as Michigan giving up on him when he knows that the team will not comment.  From what we know, it is clear that he has gotten in trouble this year.  At the start of the year he had the wings taken off his helmet.  Then he was sulking on the sideline durnig the UCon game.  The program worked with him and it looked like he got himself together for awhile.  he played well in a few games.  But, he was ineligible for the bolw game and decided not to enroll in class weeks ago. 

In short, the information available to us suggests that Michigan certainly tried to work with Tate, but he didn't perform in the classroom.  This is not the same thing as the program giving up on him.  I am greatful for his work and the memorial moments.  Unfortunately, I will also remember that he chose to blame the school for what appears to be his mistakes.

"Nobody cares what you think!"

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:00 AM | Thank You Tate! (Score:1)
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Thank you for that Notre Dame win in 2009!  Good luck and God bless.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:06 AM | And the Illinois win in 2010. (Score:1)
SC Wolverine
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And the Illinois win in 2010.  Yet, as Tate says, life is more important than the game. May the Lord bless your life, Tate.

 

"Football is happening at Michigan... we have that savoir faire."  Dhani Jones

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:03 AM | 4th Time a Charm? (Score:1)
MichiganAggie
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Does Tate have any younger brothers?

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:06 AM | I have to imagine (Score:1)
Don Keypunch
Joined: 01/07/2011
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that even if he did have a younger brother who was worthy of a football scholarship that UM wouldnt even look at him based on his last name alone.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies." - Kenny Powers

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:03 AM | Best wishes to Tate and (Score:1)
Nickel
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Best wishes to Tate and thanks for all the memories.  I'll be rooting for him where ever he winds up.


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January 20th, 2011 at 10:04 AM | Good night (Score:1)
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Joined: 09/22/2009
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Funnyman.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:04 AM | Good Luck Tate (Score:1)
itauditbill
Joined: 06/30/2010
MGoPoints: 118

Thanks for the hard work. I hope it works out for you in the end.

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:05 AM | We love you Tate and thank (Score:1)
HttV Wolverine
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We love you Tate and thank you for all you have done for Michigan. I want to wish you luck to whatever your future brings you. GO BLUE!

“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo 

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:23 AM | what... (Score:1)
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I can't even envision a situation where that's possible that doesn't include half of the team dying from some unknown disease.

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January 20th, 2011 at 11:11 AM | Wah? 3 wins are you serious? (Score:1)
upnorthinblue
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Wah? 3 wins are you serious? Come on man I liked him as much as any fan but he isn't even the starter and arguably wouldn't have been the back up next
Year.

 

“I’m a big Fear Factor Fan. I'm a big fan of anything Joe Rogan does actually."

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:07 AM | Size matters... (Score:1)
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Forcier needs to go to a smaller conference where a QB with his size and "arm strength" can thrive.  Maybe he'll end up being a Banana Slug.  Or he could go for irony and see if SDSU wants him.  If the competition was just a little smaller and a little slower, Forcier could still have a very good career.  He has a quick release, is accurate, and can make very quick decisions. 

Sadly, except for the accuracy, those traits work a lot better in football than they do in life.  I hope he gets the second part straightened out.

 

 

 

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January 20th, 2011 at 10:08 AM | Thanks Tate (Score:1)
Six Zero
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Takes a man to own up, and to bare his beliefs in the face of adversity.  Most of us have screwed up in some way or another at twenty years of age... albeit not on a national stage like yourself.  Just remember, a real man is defined not by his mistakes, but by his efforts to undo and move on from them.

Thanks for all of the hard work and the memories.  God Bless.

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