What a cock knuckle!
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What a cock knuckle!
"Cock knuckle" is beyond awesome, and just became my new favorite term.
EDITED TO ADD:
Actually, can we just refer to Drew Sharp as "Cock Knuckle" from here on out?
... but if you are going to email him and insult his column without showing him any respect, I don't think he needs to be particularly respectful in response.
Trust me, I hate the guy, but show no love, get no love.
Best thing to do is ignore him; don't read his articles, and he'll go away. The freep won't pay him if no one clicks on his columns.
I didn't care about the snarky response. It's the spin that bothers me.
... I was really commenting on Mad Magician calling out the "clown" comment.
disagree. But I think it's odd to be so hostile to your readers. Wouldn't Sharp be better served by writing back, "Dear Timmaay. Thanks for your readership and for your feedback. While I respect your opinion, I stand by my column, where I attempted to argue that... yada yada yada. Thanks for reading, Best Regards etc." You know, be the bigger man. But then he wouldn't be Drew Sharp, would he?
How can you spout off a nasty email, and then sit back and expect said person to not fire one back as if he is supposed to be some sort of emotionless machine? The email was an insult, and Sharp was well within his rights to respond in the same manner, regardless of how shitty his column was (and it was VERY shitty).
The snarky response was expected. What bothers me is the blatant spin that no amount of logic will overcome.
really needs to change his last name....because he is just not that.
Drew Sharp is the Ann Coulter of the sports world. His main purpose is to stir the pot. He only lives for reactions and angry e-mails. Don't give him the satisfaction.
Far be it from me to defend Drew Sharp, but was this article that bad?
I read it like, "Hey look, this happened here, and this happened there; and one of those things is causing everyone to freak out."
I did not read it like, "RR is the Axis of Evil because Feagin, Dantonio is a saint because of Winston."
We DESPERATELY need a game to talk about. September can come soon enough.
and here I was, bracing myself for whadyacallit--negbanging?
Here's my prob, and I might not have made it clear.
You have two sports stories. You and your paper devote more time covering the lesser of the stories ("lesser" being defined as less severe - I think most would agree, even before reading Brian and Maize and Brew's take on the Feagin v. Winston stories), and you then comment on the "non-chalant shrug" that the media has given the Winston story.
BUT YOU ARE THE "MEDIA" GIVING THE STORY A NON-CHALANT SHRUG. That doesn't explain WHY you're giving it the shrug. Nor does it justify it.
This isn't limited to sports journalism. I have the same reaction when I hear CNN anchors complaining that there is too much coverage of "Jon and Kate" and not enough coverage (at the time) of the two pending wars, the Sotomayor confirmation, etc.... all while cnn.com has front page stories of "Jon and Kate." i.e., I don't think the whole "isn't it interesting that the media is making a big deal out of story A when story B, much more important, is being ignored?" is, by itself, an interesting take by a member of the media. I think it's stupid and intellectually lazy, particularly when the commenter is part of the problem.
I see what you're saying about Sharp's implied non-chalant shrug, and sort of agree, HOWEVA I think we are all being pretty sensitive here.
Which of the two stories ended up making it to ESPN? The state thing got its coverage and everyone around knows about it and is disgusted.
I think justice has been served here.
Does CNN exist to report news, or make money?
I'm in no way a Sharp defender. He's a contrarian who's made a living taking up the unpopular side of things and writing zingers about it. He's done well for himself (even if that's by enraging many readers), so I guess I can give him credit for that.
I just don't think this article is that bad. I read it as a critique on the coverage and atmosphere around the programs. Wermers leaving and the whole Feagin fiasco were front page stories on ESPN.com and SI.com and got a lot of play nationally. It seems the Winston thing was hardly mentioned. So, if that's what he was trying to say, I guess I can see his point.
Of course, I think one could argue that he might have made a better contribution by writing a front page column blasting State for allowing Winston back in and pointing it out instead of critiquing the media situation.
Also, if you (OP) are going to go the trouble to email a columnist, I would suggest being a bit more calm and professional about it if you expect a calm and professional response.
The "story," in his mind, is that the media is reacting to the Winston story with a "non-chalant shrug."
In other words - Sharp reacts to Winston with a "non-chalant shrug," and then writes a story under-emphasizing the Winston issue and over-emphasizing the Feagin issue to illustrate his and the media's reaction.
What? This is Sharp's approach? IGNORE the implications of the Winston reinstatement, exaggerate other news, and then make the point "Isn't this interesting how I ignored the implciations of the Winston reinstatement? My ignorance to MSU's problems is a story unto itself!"
Sharp: report the fucking news. If you think the media is being non-chalant about Winston, explain either whether (1) the media SHOULD be non-chalant about it, or (2) why the media should be making a big deal. Don't sit on the sidelines and just needle programs.
Of course, all Sharp can do is sit on the sidelines and needle. It takes, at the very least, an intellectual middle-weight to actually weigh in on the tougher analysis, and that's not Sharp's game.
Drew Sharp supplies a bunch of shit.
We all demand that he stop.
That and ten minutes of studying gives you an A in Gerson's Econ 101 class.
Sharp is a columnist. His job is not to "report the fucking news." He's paid to offer his opinion, which is what he did.
See my second post explaining. I've commented too much on this. I don't find the following take to be interesting or intelligent: [Nonchalant reaction to story B, overstate story A, and by the way, isn't it interesting that I just had a nonchalant reaction to story B?]
Being paid to offer one's opinion (as opposed to a straight recitation of facts) doesn't place him above reproach for offering weak-sauce analysis or explanation for said opinion.
Alas - not saying you like him, hate him, whatever. Again, I'm over my word limit on Drew Sharp outrage.
EDIT: I also agree with the poster re: profanity when emailing columnists. Whether or not you have a good point, if an annoyed client emails me dropping swear words and complaining about me, I'm likely to ignore any point you've made and tell you to eat it.
Swear words were not dropped. I said "how the hell".
A potential drug dealer or someone who almost kills another for no reason. Both are awful that is for sure. Seeing as how I can't make up my mind I think the point is that we kicked the bad seed off our team while they kept theirs. Disgusting
I really think UM fans are over reacting to this, and it's just probably a backlash to all the bullshit UM fans have had to endure since Sparty beat Michigan last year and they have become Michigan Media Darlings.
Winston did not MEAN to "almost kill" the kid. If The Punch can be labled as such, then any mother fucker who has thrown a punch in his life is, by your definition, a possible attempted murderer.
I know Rodriguez kicked Feagin off the team immegiately, but I don't think there is ANY comparing the two situations.
Feagin (very poorly) attempted to broker a COCAINE deal. Not pot, but the Big C--that is Big Boy drugs in terms of public perception. Everyone pretty much accepts marijuana as part of the college curriculum, but cocaine? We are talking about a pre-meditated action. THEN Feagin admits his past drug and other nefarious dealings (which would never have come out if he'd have kept his very big yap shut)--deal closed, Feagin himself kicked the stool out from under himself with the noose around his neck.
Winston: Yes, get in car, go back to fight scene, punch someone. Go to jail for a few months, get back on team. What the F is the big deal? He was convicted of a misdemeanor, it was a campus brawl, and he had, IIRC, no other problems with the PO-lice before this.
Man, let it go, let this Winston thing GO. Until UM keeps its police blotters clear and the Ann Abror police never have to set foot on campus, it's nothing more than a dick measuring contest that no one can win.
Milton Berle disagrees.
Winston almost killed a kid. He is a convicted felon. Didn't mean to hit the kid? Oh you mean sucker punched him. Oh and you are correct, anytime one enters into a physical altercation, ie, throws a punch, he is responsible for what happens including killing someone. So Winston could've been charged with attempted murder had the prosecuter chosen to do so. I digress.
Feagin was never charged with a crime and immediately kicked off the team once the RR found out what how is was behaving.
The issue is the disparate treatment in the media. Michigan is being treated as if we are 1980's Oklahoma having gunfights in the dorms, while MSU is being treated as if they are being coached by Jesus Christ himself with Pope John Paul as OC.
Frankly all we are looking for is an article by someone at either paper expressing the concern that Saint D'Antonia may be selling out his morals for a W or two allowing a convict back on the team. We won't even get into the fact he was released from jail early so that he wouldn't miss practice.
I was just about to post something similar. Getting three cars full of friends and looking for a fight is also a premeditated action. And yes, anyone who throws a punch could be legally at risk of an attempted murder charge. It depends on the situation and the consequences, but it's a risk you're taking. Either way, I don't think anyone is overreacting to what happened and the difference in the media coverage is ridiculous...
Well, quite possibly he feels that prison for four months is punishment enough.
And where is the "felony" on Winston's record? Is it from a previous life or time? I thought this was a misdemeanor conviction (two to be exact). Sorry, my opinion is that a punch at a fight does not a lifetime ban warrant.
And who knows the EXACT details of all this bullshit? It's not as if the hockey players were innocent bystanders in all of it.
I just think it's time for us as a fan base to worry more about our house and put our energy into our team without trying to gauge the media or public perceptions. Michigan is and always has been more of a lightning rod, more polarizing, than MSU could ever hope to be in like EVER, as in NEVER EVER be--and sometimes any pub generated by Michigan is picked up and on by haters, and defended to the death by lovers.
But for me, and just for me (not saing I'm right or wrong)--I'm concerned with MSU as a rival, as an opponent, and nothing beyond that. What they do to handle their problems is for them to decide.
then you should probably get your facts straight. It was not a fight. This has nothing to do with being a fan. It is an atrocity that this individual is allowed to return to school let alone the football team. If people weren't worked up about this then I would be worried. This has nothing to do with rivalries or football, it's a question of morals and the coach in East Lansing is showing he doesn't have any.
"Saint D'Antonia may be selling out his morals for a W or two allowing a convict back on the team."
He is not a convicted felon. Actually, it was three misdemeanor charges. (The AD has a policy in place that a felony conviction gets you kicked off the team, period. I don't think there's any general rule for misdemeanors, as that covers a pretty wide range of territory.) As for attempted murder, you have to actually, you know, try to kill someone. You don't get charged with attempted murder for injuring someone, however badly, unless you were trying to kill them.
That said, I do agree that this has been handled poorly all around. Giving second chances is fine when the person has clearly shown they understand their mistake. I don't believe Winston has. And the reporting I've seen (if it can be called "reporting" at all) has been so slanted it should have fallen over.
Michigan is KING DICK. Contest over.
What the fuck does he have against clowns? They are a happy, jolly folk whos only joy in life is making us laugh, often at thier own expense. I fucking love clowns.
Do not want.
Ah... wasn't John Wayne Gacy a clown,that is all.
say what you want about drew sharp but he is pretty accessible. I see the OP got a response from him, and I've emailed him a couple times ang gotten responses as well. this doesn't happen all the time with beat writers at other big syndications.
about the msu thing--the fact of the matter is michigan is a NATIONAL program so they're going to make headlines no matter what they do. is the media being unfair? well, yeah, but its also partly because people outside of east lansing really couldn't be bothered with anything going on with the state football program.
I think he's wrong, but so what?
The last thing I would do, if you're trying to get a more positive, balanced view of the program you support from Drew Sharp, is to criticize him and use profanity in an email.
I wish everyone on this board would take the same approach it's clear that Rich Rod takes: we know what happened, we're comfortable with how Michigan reacted to it, and F$ other people who'd rather retread a tired cliche about Pat Lazear or Pac Man Jones instead of learning the specific facts of the Feagin story.
Neither the OP or anyone else is going to change Drew Sharp's opinion, so don't waste your time. Once you realize he can have his diluted opinions and you don't have to accept them or put any weight behind them, you'll be able to save your anger for the fat-ass who will be giving his team a decided schematic disadvantage in Michigan Stadium on 9/12.
Now let's get ready for a 9-win season, and let Drew Sharp and Michael Rosenberg write their pathetic columns wishing they were Mitch Albom and fearing when the Free Press folds.
Who used profanity? Other than saying "how the hell", I sure didn't.
...how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
I'm tired of all the stories on player disciplinary issues. Let's play Football and settle the issue on the field. Once we start winning it won't be as big of an issue when a player gets mad at lack of playing time and leaves.
Where did Sharp get his degree?
...he went to Michigan, right? Is this rhetorical or serious?
It was an honest question. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Sept. 5th can't come soon enough. Only 22 more days.
I have never finished reading a Drew Sharp article. His opinions drive me insane and I always turn the page around halfway through his piece of trash.
I am shocked that he, a professional (that's what it is called when you get paid to do it) journalist would even reply to an e-mail that clearly had little to no thought put into it.
Not only that, what did you expect Timmmaay? That Drew was going to reply and thank you for opening his eyes and tomorrow he will would write a retraction piece and put the screws to Dantonio?
Attempted drug deals across state lines are a fairly sizable offense as is assault but what are you even complaining about?
Nobody (outside of East Lansing for the most part) cares about what is going on at MSU. How many SEC fans do you hear say "I hate Michigan State!" Probably zero, because Michigan is a much bigger deal. People care about Michigan all over the country (love us or hate us) and right now the trend is to pile it on.
I just don't understand what your expectations are for the media and sending them poorly conceived complaint e-mails. Especially while we are coming off 3-9, a slew of transfers, and now perceived character issues.
I'm not a fan of Sharp, but when you send an impulsive, angry email, I don't think you have any reason to be irked when you get an impulsive, angry response -- particularly when you don't even bother to explain why you're angry. Sharp's response wasn't good, but it wasn't any worse than the original email.
is the newspaper equivalent of a troll.
Don't feed him.