At the very least, according to Rivals, he is our 5th commitment (or 4th, if you do not count Gardner, yet).
Meram is scoring some sweet-ass goals of late
why scouts has gardner as a commit and rivals doesn't.
at least according to scout. there's still another one out there.
At the very least, he is a commit. Although, I am not impressed with his film. Probably a 3-star.
Yeah lower star guys never amount to anything *Cough Aaron Curry, Jake Long, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, Todd Reesing, Chase Daniel, etc* I could go on for a day or so.
Every single one of us knows that lower-rated guys can be successful.
However, they are rated lower for a reason.
Why does this same conversation need to happen every time someone mentions that they're not impressed with a guy or that he won't be very highly rated?
We get it.
there were reports he was top 10 in ohio which would almost always garner a 4th star. the only problem i have with your argument is that it seems like you have already drawn a conclusion about this kid. What if in the next 11 months through all the re-evaulations, he becomes a solid 4 star or wow, even a 5 star. Then we can be happy that we have him?
Please go back and read what I said.
Yeah, I read it. You said "Every single one of us knows that lower-rated guys can be successful. However, they are rated lower for a reason." and the title was "ugh".
Some fans are excited that we got this guy and that he can be a great player for us but you immediately referred to his ranking as if there shouldn't be that excitement. So, if in the next rankings he's a 4 star, then what? Then it's OK to be happy that we have him?
Yes, and it was in reponse to the guy above who felt the need to bring up the fact that blah blah blah lower-rated guys aren't failures blah blah blah blah don't talk bad about lower-rated guys because they could be stars blah blah blah, a conversation that takes place pretty much once every other day on here.
three stars. That does not mean that it cannot become more heated and earn a fourth or even a fifth star.
He doesn't have any other offers, so I'm not sure if he is a top 10 guy in Ohio.
well, that was going off of what brian said. he has shown to be a reliable source of recruiting info in the past. anyways, should we only offer 5 and 4 star players? Perhaps we shouldn't let any 3 star guys to junior day. god forbid we give them scholarhips.
Ideally, yes, I would only like us to land the best and heavily recruited players in the country. Obviously, that is not realistic, so we will have to take some lower-rated guys. But, I would prefer to take a lower rated guy at another position than WR. With 3 commits already, I think we should be a little more selective about the WR's we are taking now.
The dude is allowed to voice his opinion about whether he likes a guy or not.
He doesn't need to have "validity" for his argument because it's based on a prediction of the future, which - unless you have a Delorian - is impossible to predict with 100% accuracy.
B Ready isn't impressed with the kid's video. He'd rather have someone else.
Who the fuck cares? He's either right or he's wrong and nobody will know for probably four or five years. Yeesh...agree or disagree with him, whatever. But he's allowed to think what he wants.
I never said you called him names.
His argument involved:
a) He doesn't have many offers.
b) I'm not impressed with his film.
c) He might not be a top 10 guy in Ohio, so he's probably a three-star.
You said that his argument for not being too excited had no "validity." What more do you want from him? The guy gave you three reasons. How many do you require before saying his argument has any validity?
BGH responded very cordially to B Ready and, to dispel any doubt, included not to be dickish.
Isn't BGH also entitled to his opinion? And if anyone doesn't go any deeper than "voicing their opinion" then this isn't much of a blog.
The 100% certainly arguement is a strawman, and BGH never even referred to such. Everything is based on probabilities, and good analysis will better assess the future probabilities.
And who the fuck cares? Well, BGH, and you for responding, and me for responding to you.
Also, I happen to know that BGH owns a Delorean.
exaggeration) AND owns a Delorean.
I now hate him.
I never said anything about the cordiality of BGH's response.
I questioned the motivation and reasoning behind it.
BGH is entitled to his opinion. Absolutely. But saying that B Ready's argument had no "validity" has nothing to do with opinion; the "validity" of something is based in fact, not in opinion.
but then I realize that if a player is good for RichRod, he should be good for me. We all have seen West Virginia and Utah win big games without all 4 and 5 star players. Coaches know what they're doing or else they won't be shy to refuse a player's commitment.
Five paragraphs for five sentences? Really?
for every one of them, there are 100 hundred guys who end up playing like a 3*
Jake Long was a 4-star and I believe an Army AA.
I know that. But, there are also lots of 3-stars who do absolutely nothing on the field. Those guys you mentioned are the exception.
Lets be happy with the WR monopoly.
Keep in mind that we will probably see more 3-star recruits getting a lot of playing time because Rich-Rod likes to use a lot of smaller, shifty, and undersized kids in this scheme.
The small undersized kids are not usually rated as high as the bigger kids.
Yep. That is true. But, he is not that type of player. He is 6-2, and more of a straight-line speed guy.
maybe we saw different film. but as a sophomore playing at the top divisin in OH i thought that he looked good.
His junior year film was posted. That's what I was looking at. He seems pretty quick, but he didn't really have any moves or anything. He just ran by people in the clip I saw. Nothing too great, especially considering the fact that we have 3 other receivers already in this class, and he is probably not a slot guy.
Some kid named Mike Hart a few years back was a 3-star recruit.
"Recruiting rankings are important, and though there are good reasons why they are not all-important, going blah blah blah about how it doesn't matter because of ANECDOTE 1 and ANECDOTE 2 is demonstrably incorrect."
Also for Bluesince89.
who smoked every day from the time he was 18. He's now 95. There is no way you can tell me smoking is harmful.
6th commit, so who knows who it could be.
Apparently, Williamson is NOT the mystery commit talked about this morning. Of course, I don't know who that is because I don't have a subscription.
I thought it was widely known Williamson would commit. At any rate, good pick up.
Scout says Williamson isn't the mystery commit.
My fault, I didn't see that when I posted. Let the rumors begin again.
Anybody hearing anything about Jewone Snow, the LB from Ohio? His dad is Garland Rivers, an All-American for us back in the mid-80's. There have been rumblings that it may be him.
I welcome the kid.
Yeah, same here. Potential PR and KR guy. 10.8 - 100 meter. His sophomore film looks pretty good.
this puts the nail in Jerald Robinson playing safety i guess
nail in the coffin on**
And using the "mystery commit" thing to try and sell subscriptions. You get your seven days free, and they bill you on the eighth when you forget to cancel.
It's too bad they have to resort to that kind of "marketing."
Rivals isn't even doing it. It's Scout.
And there IS such a thing as respecting the wishes of a kid and his family. He doesn't want it to be public yet, so Scout isn't saying who it is.
As for trying to sell subscriptions, nothing Rivals or Scout put out there is "premium" anymore, especially commitments. They're public by nature, you don't need to pay to find out, you just need to have some patience.
Three-star guys that get early offers are, by the nature of those offers, high priorities for the staff, and thus may well be underrated. Have faith in the coaches' evaluation in these cases.
A three-star guy offered very late, on the other hand, is probably a fill-in for some other, more highly regarded target who went elsewhere. A player like that is probably less likely to pan out.
I will give you that. He has a better chance to pan out than a player like Andre Criswell did, who was a last-minute add-on to our class and very lightly recruited.
RR used my Delorian back during the Pryor recruiting and tried to arrange to have Bo Schembechler fuck Pryor's mom (somewhat flawed plan--would have guaranteed a Michigan committment, but at the cost of height and speed. Would have gained coach's son grittiness and savvy).
Anyway, it turns out instead of procreating with Pryor's mom, Bo went ran Williamson's dad off the high school football team. (Didn't stay and didn't become champion.) Once he quit the team he didn't have much desire to stay in school and since he quit, he never kissed Williamson's mom at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance.
Williamson's star ranking is fading fast and the only hope is to send Rodriquez back in the Delorian to recruit MMA Barwis to punch out 1991 Schembechler so Williamson's dad will not quit, etc. thus restoring the space-time continuum.
Either that, or star ranking's are an imperfect, but educated guess as to a recruit's potential success in college.