In the 1969 Michigan v. O$U the QB Don Moorhead has run at least 3 option-keeper plays. I wonder how many rushing yards he had.
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
its tUoO$ now guys
Option keeper = Spread
I'm not so sure "option keeper" is synonymous with "spread". I mean, way back in the day we used to be an option team under Bo and Fritz Crisler, but it wasn't really a "spread" in that it was mostly run with two tight ends and was more often than not run out of the I-formation (we didn't really get a good drop-back passer until we got Harbaugh in the 80's, meaning we loaded the line for the run more often than not). Today's spread relies on lining up out of the shotgun (most of the time) with 3 or 4 wideouts. Though they did have similar concepts as far as the option-read, the players back then were often larger and a little slower whereas today's spread often relies on smaller, faster guys.
Dude, check your sarcasm detector. I was sorta mocking the OP, I half thought about labeling as sarcasm, but figured it'd be obvious. If you didn't notice, it is the esprit de corps around here.
I kinda figured, it was more directed at the OP. My bad dude.
On a lighter note: I can count to potato!
his name is Don Moorhead. I think Bo and RichRod would have a natural affinity for each other
was a very good qb. He probably was the best all-around quarterback in the Big Ten in 69 and 70, Rex Kern notwithstanding.
the funniest part of this post is that the OP is talking about this game as though it's happening right now and we should be at the big house, as if he just updated us via blackberry
yeah it seems that way, how many carries is Moorhead up to now? anybody remember the name of the College Football highlight show that used to air @ 11:30 on Sunday mornings? I used to hope and pray the Michigan game would be one of the 3 or 4 games highlighed and hated the part of the show where they would show the band. This of course was pre-cable
The game was just airing on BTN, so I think he was watching it while writing that post.
...or I'll say "UFR!" again.
I just noticed the close similarity between "UFR" and "Ufer." We need to add a fourth word to the acronym starting with an "e" between Further and Review.
There is a big difference between the "spread," "option" and the "read option" out of a spread formation that RR runs.
Certain thread starters ought to go watch some old Rick Leach highlights.
Nothing about the offenses run by Bo and Woody were "secret". They prized execution over anything else. Read a book sometime.
That same statement precisely can be made about our current coach, as well.
That goes against everything that Brian has written about the difference between Bo/Mo/Carr and Rodriguez. That the Bo Era made no attempts to fool the other team by breaking tendency's whereas Rodriguez's style is to keep the opponent guessing.
Well, that wasn't quite what I was getting at. I was talking more about the superior execution angle. Rodriguez's offense is all about superior execution and has been as long as I've been following him. While it might keep the opponent guessing, it's useless without superior execution. Thus, the comparison I was making. I do get what you are saying and why there was some confusion between our two posts.
Yeah I think we were talking about two different things.
Yeah, but in the same respect I really don't think anything about Rodriguez's offense is "secret". There might be a couple of plays a game that are added to break tendencies, but beyond that everything else is pretty out in the open. Some of the plays that people think are surprises really aren't surprise play calls; they're just different reads.
thanks a lot man, we kept it a secret for 40 years and now you gotta go and blow it. now everyone knows
Most of Bo's teams between 1969-1989 featured a tight end or two tight ends in the starting lineup and formation. This was because Bo wanted to run right at opponents strength and he wanted extra blockers with which to humiliate and wear down the opponent.
Offensively, Michigan primarily ran some Wing T, full house T and I formation between 1969-1973. Almost a carbon copy of Woody Hayes' playbook. I believe UM ran Option I formation between 1974-1989 shortly after Bo and some assistants met with Darryl Royal of UT (1974?) to learn about executing the option attack. In 1978 only Bo, Don Nehlen and Jerry Hanlon did sprinkle in of the wishbone formation, but even out of that formation UM's QB leach usually threw the ball (as Clayton was a RHB going into motion as a WB).
Triple option yes. Spread offense no.
Michigan's wide receivers under Bo had to block well downfield or find a warm spot on the bench, so there are some similarities in RR's expectation here with the spread. RR's attitude must be: "So you don't want to block? OK, Mr. Bench, meet Mr. I-don't-like-to-throw-blocks-downfield-wide-receiver."
But Bo's use of tight end players (an UM field some great ones) like Jim Mandich, Paul Seal, Gene Johnson, Doug Marsh, Eric Kattus, Jeff Brown, Derek Walker is the major difference.
These UM TE's all blocked well and they were used more and more as passing targets in the Wolverine offense later in Bo's career. This was highly effective for power running teams because the TE could really surprise your LBs and secondary. Under Bo, TEs were lined up tight at the line, and rarely (if ever) placed out wide to spread the field.
That all said, I do believe that, like RR, from day one, Bo really did see the value of having a mobile QB that could run and be a run-threat. I don't think this view really changed all the way up to 1989, though Bo did recruit Elvis Grbac who was not a mobile QB in any respect.
Interviews with Bo about the 1969 season really attested to his frustration about the Big Ten's "mobile QBs" of the era like Charlie Baggett of Michigan State and most notably, Rex Kern of Ohio State - and the damage they could do with their legs. Bo's strategy to beat Ohio State in 1969 was to stop Kern's rushing at all costs. That's a pretty messed up strategy when you consider the other players in the Buckeye backfield. But it worked.
I can just post some dumb-*ss sentence fragment and someone will churn out a novella-length analysis of it, complete with the entire rosters of teams from 40 years ago!