abscesses are gross. and painful. yay for possible improvement now that they drained it?
at least it's not just us?
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Denard's Elbow: Bandaged
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So here's a still from Friday's walkthrough video:
Watch the thing in full if you need to assure yourself that this is not a hallucination and is actually a bandage on his elbow.
What is it? Denard had a procedure earlier this week for an abscess on said elbow. The bandage is the after-effect. An abscess is an irritating, fairly quick-healing thing that may have affected his accuracy earlier in the year. It won't cause him to miss any time but may be a reason the passing game has been minimized so far. If he suddenly gets a lot more accurate in three weeks that might be why.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:57 PM
#2
abscesses are gross. and
October 1st, 2011 at 1:13 AM
#3
This is likely a MRSA
This is likely a MRSA abscess. Pretty common... acquired during game play from artifical turf. Treatment is drainage and abx. This did not inhibit his preformance. Not a big deal. I feel bad for Denard b/c this won't be his last.
(I'm medically qualified to know this. I've been a reader of this site since near inception and cringe at the medical misinterpretation of commentors on this site.)
Go Blue!
October 1st, 2011 at 1:33 AM
#4
I had olecranon bursitis in the elbow
for 4 weeks when I was 18 and it hurt like all hell, got pretty scary, and took about 2 weeks to go back to almost normal size.
I can say for me it hurt like hell any time I moved my elbow. If it was even remotely close to as bad as I had it I'm sure his elbow hurt when he was throwing.
Also, a doctor is not qualified to say if a certain amount of pain will inhibit someone's performance, only the person perfoming knows if the pain is affecting him.
October 1st, 2011 at 2:18 AM
#5
Thats a whole different
Thats a whole different animal... much more painful than a Staph infection. Imagine the pain of having a gigantic zit in your elbow and that's what Denard was experiencing. It almost certainly limits mobility which can explain lack of accuracy... However, bursitis is MUCH more painful than a Staph infection
October 1st, 2011 at 6:29 AM
#6
I'm not a doctor, but I did
I'm not a doctor, but I did stay in a hotel that kinda looks like a Holiday Inn Express last night when viewed from the back. Denard likely has encephalathingyonarmadosis. This can cause pain and discomfort, which can certainly affect performance.
Fortunately, this family of afflictions can usually be treated by rest and relaxation or grafting a third robot arm on the chest or abdomen. Also putting that three-dot laser thing from Predator on Denard's shoulder would be pretty cool.
In sum, I wish Denard a speedy recovery.
October 1st, 2011 at 6:24 AM
#7
Curious comment...
You jump to MRSA very quickly. Do you have access to the c & s data? You also imply knowing when this began. Obviously he did not have it for three weeks, but he could have had it last Saturday. Unless you have insider info?
October 1st, 2011 at 7:28 AM
#8
Dunno why this is flamebait
In his defense of MRSA, it is very likely we are all colonized with it and I wouldn't be surprised if it were, indeed MRSA.
HOWEVER
I won't call him a pompous asshole yet, BUT.
MRSA comes from the equipment they wear on a daily basis, gets soaked with sweat, dries incompletely, then continues to rub on the skin during games. It does NOT come from the turf.
Also, an abcess in a joint doesn't hurt, or even one on a joint? WTF? I've see enough abcess in and on joints from years of taking care of them on the floor and in the OR that I would have to disagree with the idea they are a painless nuisance. I have a friend who was a boxer and has a pretty good pain tolerance. His knee abcess was not something he was able to work through. I would imagine the same would apply for a quarterback.
October 1st, 2011 at 8:17 AM
#9
To clarify...
I'm not saying it isn't MRSA, but that isn't a clinical diagnosis - it is one made from culture and sensitivity testing. Although MRSA gets a lot of press, most infections are still MSSA and most treatment is started empirically before any of the culture data returns. Draining the abscess is the most important thing anyway.
I will echo your comment that the abscess and likely associated cellulitis can hurt a good deal and would limit range of motion on the elbow. But, without insider knowledge, we don't know how long this has been going on. The reason I thought the original comment was "curious" was because the detail given implies having that insider knowledge.
The good news is that it's on the mend.
October 1st, 2011 at 10:05 AM
#10
I understood that about MRSA
And I also understand about empirical treatment. (I may not be very good at which atb to prescribe for which organisms, because prescribing atb is outside my scope of practice. I can't "prescribe" anything in Ohio. I can just push it myself.) And yes, treatment is typically started before any intervention is performed. Not always. Sometimes I don't start the atb until cultures are taken. Sometimes they are on atb before they get into the OR.
As for my comment on the possibility of it being MRSA, I believe MRSA is very common. More common than probably most people realize. I just don't think most people really know there's a difference between colonization and infection. Like I said, I think probably most people are colonized. Just not carrying active infections.
October 1st, 2011 at 7:16 AM
#11
hmm
What type of medical personnel are you?
October 1st, 2011 at 4:46 PM
#12
posted from iPhone
I am just amused that this convo is even taking place. Let's leave the diagnosis to Denard's PCP.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:01 AM
#13
Denard
That would explain a lot. Watching him throw a few of the balls that floats high, he definitely lacked his "zip". He looke rocky untrained eye Robbie be following through on his throwing motion - ie not fully extending his elbow.
Could this be the reason he has looked mortal in the passing game? Hopefully we are up by 3 scores at the half so that Denard can rest the elbow in the second half.
October 1st, 2011 at 1:11 AM
#14
<blockquote>He looke rocky
He looke rocky untrained eye Robbie be following through on his throwing motion
Pardon?
October 1st, 2011 at 12:02 AM
#17
Ive noticed that bleeding
Ive noticed that bleeding every game when the camera pans in on him.. always bloody.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:06 AM
#18
So no cause for major
So no cause for major freakout? Cautious/delusional optimism?
October 1st, 2011 at 12:08 AM
#19
We're all gonna die!
/s
We're all gonna die!
/s
October 1st, 2011 at 12:08 AM
#22
His abscess was not full of
His abscess was not full of pus, but dilithium.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:09 AM
#23
Scared The Piss Out of Me
Seeing a picture of Denard up and quickly seeing the word "bandage" scared the piss out of me. Good thing it's nothing too serious. I hope this cures his inaccuracy problem, but if his accuracy does go up tomorrow, we have to take it with a grain of salt since it's Minnesota's secondary. The real game to see how it goes will be against Northwestern.
Still, I'm all in for healthy Denard.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:10 AM
#24
I don't have any idea why I
I don't have any idea why I thought it would be a good idea to click on a link titled "abscess" while eating, but I'm certainly regretting that decision.
October 1st, 2011 at 10:28 AM
#25
Could be worse
You could have been eating yogurt like I was.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:10 AM
#26
Scary title...
but an optimistic post! Given Minnesota's secondary, I'm not sure if a good game tomorrow through the air tells us anything about the abscess's effect on his throwing...
October 1st, 2011 at 12:16 AM
#27
Looks OK @ 2:43 remaining in
Looks OK @ 2:43 remaining 1st half of the SDSU game??...this looks minor...
October 1st, 2011 at 12:23 AM
#28
If that bump beneath his
If that bump beneath his elbow joint is it, that's plenty big enough to hurt like hell. It seems to me that if it wasn't bad enough to keep him from playing altogether, it probably didn't affect him too much. But if it was a bad one, he could have really been in pain out there.
I had one near my tailbone (TMI?) and it was nearly debilitating.
October 1st, 2011 at 1:42 AM
#29
Brady is taking snaps at the
Brady is taking snaps at the 1:10 mark of the walkthrough...does he have eligibility??.../s
Srsly...he's not favoring it in any video that I see...this looks minor...if it's enough to impede his throwing motion then why would they have him make the throws he made in the SDSU game??. It's possible...I just don't think it accounts for pass failure as bad as it has been.
Here's a couple more shots post victory formation...in the second one he's hugging an SDSU player... 
There is a boil on his elbow @ 33:49 on this vid...but again it looks like a bad blister. I don't think that was there at the beginning of the game...
It will take a day or two for a culture to come back anyhow...I'm sure he wears something to protect this and other players on the field tomorrow as a precaution. I think CFB in general is very careful about potential MRSA outbreaks given recent history.
October 1st, 2011 at 7:10 AM
#30
posted from iPhone
Is your last name Zapruder. By chance?
October 1st, 2011 at 12:19 AM
#31
This
This is why on random Fridays I like to booze and keep F5 a viable option on MgoBlog.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:23 AM
#32
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October 1st, 2011 at 12:23 AM
#33
Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleasebethereason
Also get better soon Denard.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:25 AM
#34
WTF Brian!?
It's times like this I wish I didn't check my Twitter at 1:15am of gameday. Scared me. Good to see it is only a bandage and not a sling. Glad for him and us fanatics.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:42 AM
#35
You know...
You know, those aren't as bad as you think they would be. They're 100 times worse.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:42 AM
#36
...but terrifying imagery. I
...but terrifying imagery. I just cringed.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:40 AM
#37
For the love of
God, please don't post Denard ......... Bandaged
October 1st, 2011 at 12:48 AM
#38
ahh
just woke up in a state of dream induced panic.
1st conscious act: check MGoDroid
step two: AHHH. panic higher than dream induced panic. impossible but it happen.
step four: oh its probably set to the boards and some guy has a stupid theory thing and Brian never posts late.
step five: ahhhhhhh
six: okay. Denard bandage equals good news okay.
three: accnowledge stupididy and spelling errors of stream of conscious post.feel a coming MGoWraith.
seven: sleep. oh crap why is game time ten hours away not four like in my diabolical plan to avoid conscious impatience.
serious note though: would a absess have made getting hit hurt or just throwing? i dont know can someone assist?
October 1st, 2011 at 12:58 AM
#39
It all really depends. An
It all really depends. An abcess can be painful, or it can be not painful. It can be painful during certain situations or movements. Really depends on how big, where, what caused it, etc. I don't think this will solve the throwing issues, but it sure can't hurt the accuracy. Hopefully it will actually help.
October 1st, 2011 at 5:29 AM
#40
I realize you might have been
I realize you might have been a little sleepy, but for future reference it goes:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 in that order.
October 1st, 2011 at 7:16 AM
#41
Cottonpicker is leading the
Cottonpicker is leading the Pick Six standings this week. Whatever order he decides the numbers go should be followed by the rest of us.
1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 3, 7 it is. We'll have to get his decision on whether seven still ate nine.
October 1st, 2011 at 8:50 AM
#42
Thanks for the info. I had
Thanks for the info. I had no idea Cottonpicker was of such a superior intellect. If he wants to reorder numbers, I'm on board and I'm anxiously awaiting the 789 verdict. Perhaps we should immediately name him sumpreme ruler of the universe? As an aside, with Cottonpicker in charge, it would bring an entirely different meaning to "that cottonpicking leader!" I just hope he shows me mercy.
October 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 AM
#43
16 8 Gopher.
October 1st, 2011 at 8:13 AM
#44
Dude, reading comprehension.
Dude, reading comprehension. He knows.
October 1st, 2011 at 8:39 AM
#45
Dude, humor.
Dude, it was meant to be funny. I knew he knew.
October 1st, 2011 at 12:50 AM
#46
i hope teams still load the
i hope teams still load the box and make him throw. that way denard can be like..."#HALOL I MIGHT NOT TIE MY LACES BUT I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE ONES ON THE BALL!" (pass zips to roundtree in the endzone)
October 1st, 2011 at 1:16 AM
#47
Not hurting play
It is very unlikely that an abscess would affect his play on the field at all, pre or post operation. It's just uncomfortable is all.
October 1st, 2011 at 7:01 AM
#48
Yeah, how could being uncomfortable affect him?
October 1st, 2011 at 3:21 AM
#49
When I first heard Denard was hurt I was with friends at dinner
and I was like......
Then I was like.....
Don't worry, elbows heal fast man! :)
October 1st, 2011 at 3:40 AM
#50
Not sure why GRboy thinks
Not sure why GRboy thinks this is def an MRSA abscess. Could just be non-infected olecranon bursitis. Would be explainable by all the practice snaps and game-time throws. If it is simple inflammation, anti-inflammatories will do the trick. Drainage will help in the short term. Would certainly explain some accuracy issues just like a sprained knee/ankle would affect a RB's cuts.
October 1st, 2011 at 5:46 AM
#51
MRSA abscess? Non-infected
MRSA abscess? Non-infected olecranon bursitis? To me, it looks to be an ouchie.
