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Denard versus Usain Bolt: Fight!

By Brian — August 13th, 2012 at 6:42 PM — 69 comments
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Rival fans are having their lol over this Denard Robinson statement from media day:

"I've watched him run, and I'm pretty sure I can beat him in a 40-yard dash," Robinson said at Michigan's media day on Sunday. "I'd get a better start, and I could take him.

"At 60 yards, I'd be in trouble, and at 100 meters, he'd be gone, but I could get him in a 40."

But this sort of thing has come up before. Two years ago, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Bolt would race Titans running back Chris Johnson, who ran a 4.24 40 at the NFL draft combine. That turned out to be total fiction, but it got people thinking.

It's complicated. Most 40 times are bunk. Combine times like Johnson's are not directly comparable to track sprints since the NFL uses a system that eliminates reaction time, doesn't use starting blocks, and is on FieldTurf in cleats. Also, yards are not meters and converting between the two requires integration and stuff since 100 meter athletes are accelerating until about the 65 meter mark.

Benchmarks are available. Robinson dabbled in track early in his career, winning some dual meets in the 60-meter dash indoors:

That was a 6.81 60. When Bolt set the 100 M world record in Germany in 2009, he crossed 60 meters at 6.29  Denard would get smoked at 60 meters, but it's worth noting that he'd get smoked by less than he would in the 100, where Bolt's world record time is a full second faster than Denard's best high school effort. Bolt's second 50 meters is where he makes his money.

So what about the 40? In his world-record run, Bolt hit 40 meters at 4.64. Meters are longer than yards, so that time translates to the exact same 4.24 Johnson ran at the NFL combine, give or take tenth given the fact that 40s are not track sprints. Chris Johnson's lifetime best 60m is… 6.83*. So… plausible for Denard to be in Bolt's stratsophere?

No. Johnson's best time at 60 meters was good for third place. In a semifinal. At a regional collegiate track meet. Denard's fast. He's not Usain Bolt.

*[According to a guy on the internet. Milestat confirms the time, FWIW.]

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August 13th, 2012 at 10:50 PM
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My bad..

scrambled those two around.  40 yards is 36.68 meters, but the math is still done correctly.

 

0.86 seconds in the 30-40m pro-rates to 0.57 seconds, on top of 3.63.

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August 13th, 2012 at 10:53 PM
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duplicate

duplicate

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August 13th, 2012 at 11:10 PM
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And Bolt has a very good 60m

And Bolt has a very good 60m split at 6.29s. Not that Denard isn't fast, b/c of course he is, but in this whole discussion, there's little disagreement that after a certain distance, maybe after 20m or so because many are convinced that Denard would out-accelerate Bolt at the start, Bolt would be either catching up to or distancing himself from Denard. So, really the bottomline is that Bolt is faster than Denard if we're to look at their top speeds and people are just looking for ways to make Denard look good in this comparison. If Denard is faster than Bolt to 40 yds, that means dozens of people probably are, and that's just like trying to look for a moral victory considering what Bolt would do to them after that distance. 

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August 13th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
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Brian,

you are guilty of the same headline grabbing titles as the bleacher report. Please refrain, you are better than this.

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August 13th, 2012 at 10:32 PM
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Shoelaces untied? It's a wash

Look closely, friends. Our favorite shotgun dilithium quarterback is not the only ultra-fast human to run with his shoes untied.

Coincidence?

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August 14th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
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We all forgot to mention

 that Denard is the Ocarina of Time and anything is possible.

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August 14th, 2012 at 8:40 AM
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You're right. But Denard

You're right. But Denard would kick his ass running sideways.

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August 14th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
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Nobody ever got

Boltarded

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August 14th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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Fuel the flames. Fuel them good.

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August 14th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
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Let's just hope Denard can

Let's just hope Denard can outrun the Alabama DE coming from the blind side when he is looking downfield.

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August 14th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
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Sure, Denard is fast, but

Sure, Denard is fast, but didn't we all come to the conclusion a few years back that Tate Forcier has better "football speed"?  Maybe we should have Tate and Usain race in full pads within a football game?

We do know that Bolt would destroy Sam McGuffie in a race though- Sam just doesn't have that top-end speed.

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August 14th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
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It was a little facetious for

It was a little facetious for Denard to say something like this, but it was obviously tongue-in-cheek.  That said, all of the numbers mentioned above and all the supposed conditions aside, a race between Bolt and Denard would be reasonably close, and depending on conditions Denard might be able to catch him over 40 yards.  People keep pointing to Bolt's WR time, but that was set 3 years ago and has not approach it since.  I mean, we are talking about small-scale differences, but here is a nice little chart outlining his 100m times over the years he's been a professional.

So while we are talking about a .4-ish change over the past couple of years, he's definitely slowing down a bit as he ages.  And as has been noted in numerous interviews, Bolt struggles to get up to speed quickly; he earns his money on the last 50m, and oftentimes is a little back at the start.  So in a 40-yard dash, where getting off the blocks is essential, it isn't crazy to imagine Denard at least keeping pace.

But all that said, it sure is a fun mental exercise.

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August 18th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
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Denard wins.

Denard would win a 40yd dash.

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