cant believe no one has posted this yet:
FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
cant believe no one has posted this yet:
I will be really impressed if Denard can run the Offense. RichRod raved about both Frosh QB's ability to take control of an offense. Was that a slap at Threet and Sheridan?
That is crazy to me, and he thinks the Big House is nice
yeah 20'6" is outstanding, but still isn't even close to as impressive as the 10.28 in the 100m. That is freakish in a high school kid..
Edit: He would qualify for the NCAA regionals. The fastest UM 100m time this year is 10.56. I'm sure he's had better conditions to run in too. Adam Harris of UM ran a 10.24 last year.
I am amazed because this track thing is secondary for D-Rob. He has freakish talent. I think Wheatley had Track numbers similar.
20'6" is a good but not great long jump. My high school team had 3 guys who could jump that far, and I jumped over 22. We were a good team, but for a kid with the speed and athleticism that DR has, that jump is nothing to write home about.
Where did you go to high school?
Forest Hills Northern.
That's impressive. A Class B school with 3 jumpers over 20 ft. I'm a jump coach at a D3 school. I have never personally ran into a team with 3 jumpers over 20.
Well when I went there it was Class A, but the school split to create FHE. We won a couple team state titles, and always had a solid team. The best high hurdler in the Big Ten went to my high school.
That's cool. One of my jumpers is at UM, there's actually an interview on mgoblue.com with him. He's a high jumper though.
the wind was in his face, he was running up hill, and backwards
that explains why it was so slow
Also 2 feet of snow had already piled up. In Florida. Kind of a freak thing.
If the wind was in his face, and he was running backwards, the wind was actually aiding him. Color me unimpressed with the time in that case...
I think the dreads slow him down.
they make him faster.
that denard robinson is fast? I had no idea.
Mcfarlin probably just creamed his pants
he probably creamed and shat at the same time. XD
That's gotta be close to the fastest time in the nation...did he beat it this time?
Fastest as of last week was a 10.33 or 10.38.
his letter of intent
to the jamaican olympic team
he's so fast he could probably push that thing to victory on his own
that he runs this fast in the open field to a TD, and not into a middle linebacker.
I just litteraly laughed out loud at the thought of him running into a linebacker really fast.
Usain Bolt is waving the white flag
I also heard he ran it barefoot.
Tate Forcier is about as fast as Robinson.
I've had enough of your blasphemies--let's go asshole
Wait ... I haven't been following threads too closely. Is this a joke, or do you have something to support this?
Check out the link to the Florida track results and then go to the UM track records and see for yourself if that's what you're doubting.
You'll have to back up a couple pages, there are several Board posts containing the words Denard and Speed/fast. Peruse.
The record 100m time by a UM sprinter is 10.22 by Ike Okenwa in 2000. Two times by former UM RBs also show up in the record book, with a 10.36 by Butch Woolfolk in 1980 and a 10.46 by Wheatley in '95 placing 4th and 5th respectively.
Seems like it'd be a no-brainer for DB to run track.
Ginn has an unofficial 10.02, but that is a huge discrepancy so I think we can throw that out. Ginn also recorded a 4.27 40 for his pro day.
Has not translated into much of a pro career, but most people, except Morgan Trent, thought he was dam fast.
thats obviously an incredible time, but in terms of football relevance, im not sure it has too much. How often do you see a player have the opportunity to run 100 yards in a straight line on the football field (without having to juke or fake)? The problem with the hundred is that it is more a measure of top-end speed, whereas the 40m dash is more a measure of acceleration. In regard to football play, i think the 40m is far more relevant. id be much more interested to see denard's 40m and shuttle time (obviously to check his agility)
If you're fast at one type of sprint, it generally means you're fast at another. Fast 100 times likely translate to fast 40 times. It's also evidence that Denard's 40 time is less "fake" than others. It has plenty of relevance. It means he'll be our fastest player. It's up to RR to use that speed now.
I think you are extremely wrong in this regard, and you clearly never ran track. As I said in my post, the 100m has a lot more to do with top end speed. Watch a 100m race and youll prob see a guy start off slow and gain considerable ground towards the end of the race. Or you might see a guy start off with an early lead and finish poorly.
Heres a breakdown. Lets say there are two runners. Runner 1 hits his top speed of 20 mph after 30m. Runner two hits his top speed of 18 mph after 20 meters. Runner 2 probably would win in a 40 meter dash, b/c he accerlates quicker and hits his top speed faster. However runner 1, assuming he can maitain his top speed, would probably win in a 100m dash, b/c after 30 meters he would be moving faster than runner 2.
In general, taller runners tend to take longer to get to their top speed but can hit higher speeds b/c of their long strides.
that's a good one
The 40 is more about how well you start. There isn't much time to get to full speed there. I think the 100 is an easier way to tell how truly fast someone is.
I agree, but with a 10.28, he's doing everything right. You don't run a 10.28 with a bad start. I'd bet that his 40 time is legit..
a good 100 time does more to legitimize a 40 time than a mile would. The 100 is not irrelevent to 40 times because they're both quick, short sprints. If someone can run a blazing fast 100 time, it's expected that he'd likely run a fast 40 time as well. And like I said, it makes that fake 40 time believable.
I think the point is that 10.28 is hella-fast anyway you slice it. Fast fast fast like record book for Michigan track fast and the kid is a senior in high school. That's fast over the first 30 yards AND the last 70 yards. I'll take faster than tyrone wheatley any day of the week. He supposedly had 'world class sprinter speed'. fast.
You are also talking about differences in hundredths of seconds.
"Watch a 100m race and youll prob see a guy start off slow."
Slow compared to what? They do NOT start off slow. They start out freaking fast -- some may be slower than other elite sprinters -- but again, by hundredths of a second at the 40 m mark (maybe 0.05 seconds variation between elite sprinters at 40 m). If you can run a sub 10.5, you are fast, period, and will likely have the fastest 40 on the football team. Saying "100 m is all about top end speed" doesn't negate that a 4.27 40 m is almost as fast as a 4.22. Both are blazing.
There is also a considerable amount of deceleration to consider in a 100m race. When it looks like someone is catching up to other people (or pulling away), it is really that they are slowing down LESS than other people. Every runner accelerates to a point and then begins to decelerate. Being good at the 100m relies on very good acceleration combined with a sort-of "spring stamina" by which the runner is able to minimize their deceleration.
Denard Robinson is so fast that when he finished the race, his shadow was still twenty yards behind.
He's just tall.