Denard After Dentist Comment Count

Brian

9/10/2011 – Michigan 35, Notre Dame 31 – 2-0

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is this real life?

Not only can Denard Robinson redefine All-America teams, average nearly 500 yards per game against Notre Dame, and pilot the most insane fourth quarter Michigan Stadium has ever seen, but he can sum up what happened on Saturday in a single word:

If you still need evidence that Denard can do things other people can't, there you go. Because I've got nothing. I can gape, slack-jawed and twitching, if you'd like. Oh, and I can put my finger between my lips and go "brrrrrrrrrbbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrrbb" with crazy googly eyes. Also I can spin in a circle going "yip yip yip yip yip."

These are my capabilities. All other functions are currently offline. Attempt to access higher cognition and you will receive 503 Gateway Not Found.

That's fine. There's nothing to say that "brrrrrrbrbrbrbrbrrbrbrb" doesn't cover anyway. I am so high, you guys. I don't even know what I'm saying.

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Seriously. I'm really struggling here to put words in the computer. I guess… okay.

The thing I really really hated about the first three quarters (other than everything) was the way the offense made Denard mortal. This extended beyond the usual reasons 90 yards of offense in a half make you homicidal. Not only were we lost and hopeless in our first serious game after returning nine starters from one of the nation's most explosive offenses, but the guy who didn't transfer when his offense got fired out from under him was busy playing out everyone's worst-case scenarios.

I don't think I can take football games in which I'd rather have Alex Carder than Denard Robinson. A return of freshman Denard looking like a sad panda is too depressing for a multitude of reasons but mostly because just look at him:

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Shoehorning him into an offense that doesn't fit him is a crime against man and panda and manpanda. He had to be dying in the first half as he flung balls to Tacopants and ran waggles the entire stadium could predict. People twittered me about moving him to RB so Gardner can get on the field. I couldn't block them from my phone. The tweets sat there, whispering evil things into my ear.

As I projected Denard's state of mind my own got inky black. The road ahead seemed like another two years of painful rebuilding towards a goal Denard will never see, his career relegated to that of Brandon Graham when Desmond Howard seemed in reach. It's going to kill me if Denard ends up a really good player on a mediocre team for the duration of his career and Michigan doesn't end up making anyone who wants 16 in the future wear a patch with dreads on it. It's going to be worse if he's not even a really good player. Someone is at fault for this travesty.

I was running advanced equations of blame assignment amongst Bill Martin, Rich Rodriguez, Al Borges, Dave Brandon, and bloody fate when Denard rolled out. Corralled by a Notre Dame defender, he stood perfectly still but still delivered a game-changing dart to Junior Hemingway before two more ND players could close in.

From there the delirium took over.

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That game was delirious because of the many improbable events stacked on each other. Jeremy Gallon jump-ball touchdowns. Tommy Rees's aiming device locked on Michael Floyd. Tommy Rees throwing a ball backwards for no reason. More jump balls to Junior Hemingway and Roy Roundtree and Jeremy Gallon turning invisible with 23 seconds left. All the reasons it left you with your finger between your teeth are reasons to wonder about the smoothness of this transition (not very), the repeatability of such miracles (even less).

This isn't to blame anyone—it seems that coaches are who they are and as much as I want to, you can't hire a guy based on the two years left you've got with Denard. But I hope I'm not the only one who felt a sense of foreboding in the midst of the joy and relief. We've seen this script the last two years, and never has it been as rickety.

Michigan has to fix some stuff—lots of stuff—by the Big Ten season. The stakes are only Denard's career, everyone's faith in the Ethical Les Miles theory of Hoke's success, and the very survival of pandas in the wild. I'll take the escape. I wonder what happens when the drugs wear off and real life reasserts itself.

For now, though:

The game is ova!

Non-Bullets Of WHAT?

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Pantheon placement. I think this is below Braylonfest—but only just—in the competition for Best Comeback Ever (that people 32 or under remember). For Michigan to pull Braylonfest out they had to recover an onside kick and survive not just triple overtime by an oft-forgotten 50-yard field goal attempt at the end of regulation that was set up by a horrible pass interference call.

A good proxy for the level of kickass in your comeback is how many people left the stadium early. While there were some people who took off when ND made it 24-7, they don't compare to the legions who left early during that MSU game. And winning that eventually got Michigan a Rose Bowl appearance. The season-long significance of this ND game is going to be lower.

It easily beats out the Buffalo Stampede game, since it's not against Minnesota or in the Metrodome, and then it's a long way to fourth place.

As far as best game ever… it depends on what you're rating it on. I like my defining victories to be well-played and not hinge on the opposing quarterback throwing the ball backwards for no reason. In terms of pure drama it's up there but with both teams unranked and not looking likely to defy that I'd say most Ohio State games before we stopped being competitive had more salt to them. We lost all the ones that came down to the last play, though.

The entire Denard interview. If you missed this, you should fix that:

 

 

Commence the bitching about the offense. Watching Michigan run a play-action bomb from the I-formation after averaging exactly two yards per carry out of the I on previous attempts was exactly what I was beating into the ground over the offseason. No one is scared of Michigan's crappy backs running power out of the I-form so no one has to cheat to it. Thus instead of Worst Waldo plays featuring Roy Roundtree and twenty yards of grass we got a lot of hopeful downfield jump balls into excellent coverage.

Michigan was lucky as hell to get most of those. That was a Jeff Bowden special right there. I'm not alone in this. There has to be some adaptation now that we know the relative success rates of manball and Denardball. When Denard's averaging 7.5 YPC (sack excluded) and the rest of the backs under are 2, power is a lost cause.

Denard has to be the focal point of the offense, fragile or no. And the new offense seemed to remove Denard's legs as the primary threat without actually reducing his carries: he had 15 carries* in just 50 snaps. Project that to last year's 72 offensive snaps per game and Denard would have carried 22(!) times. What's the point of throwing away snaps on two-yard runs from the I?

*[sack removed.]

junior-hemingway-leapPrimary thing that may just work. "Chuck it up to Hemingway" may be the world's most primitive passing game but dang if it doesn't work. Hemingway not only has great leaping ability, he's enormous and therefore capable of boxing out opponents. Add in an uncanny knack for being able to high-point the ball and he's a hell of a lot like Marquise Walker before Walker got the dropsies as a senior.

Primary thing that did work from under center. Vincent Smith's throwback screen touchdown was a great call since it used Denard's legs. He rolls, defense freaks, he throws back, Smith should have an easy touchdown if any of the offensive linemen block that one linebacker, Smith makes it happen anyway. Contrast with the earlier screen where a short Denard has to float a ball over a guy leaping in his face and ends up throwing it eight yards too far and getting it picked off.

And introducing… Facepalm Guy. The facepalm guy from the sad fugee face picture in the "So I Was Like" post: the the new Lloyd Brady? He's already won an award for "Media Criticism" from Doctor Saturday.

1) He caught ESPN's camera's capturing his facepalm moment and gave them an oh-no-you-di'in't:

2) After the game he… well, he did this:

Can a brother get a Facepalm Guy touchdown Jesus photoshop?

(HT to MGoUser Haterade.)

Defensive events. Brandon Herron and Mike Jones were supposedly out with injury but if I had to guess they were not so badly hurt they couldn't play and Michigan was trying out their other options at WLB. Desmond Morgan started, played poorly—he got trucked like he was in a BTN practice highlight-type substance—and was yanked. Then Brandin Hawthorne came in and may have been plausible. He knifed into the backfield for one key TFL on third and short. I'm guessing he was at least partially responsible for a number of Cierre Wood runs that went for big yardage, but we'll see. WLB remains a sore spot.

The other sore spot is an alarming, unexpected one: WDE. Craig Roh had zero tackles for the second straight week and while he did get a QB hurry or two he seems less impactful from that spot than he did last year. I mean, last year he split two ND linemen and picked up a huge TFL en route to a +11 day. This year he'll be lucky to break even. Hopefully he's still sick. I wonder if we see more Black in the short term.

How did Jordan Kovacs only have eight tackles?

BONUS: Will Campbell got held! By an offensive lineman!

Special teams. Matt Wile has been at least average spelling Hagerup, and with only one more real-ish game left before the latter returns it looks like Michigan will escape that suspension without much real damage. I still hate the regular punt. If ND's John Goodman hadn't made inexplicable fair catches he had tons of room on two of Wile's five punts despite Wile's excellent hangtime.

The patch thing. It's pretty cool. Some potential tweaks and additions:

  • Should we un-retire numbers? I could get behind a 98 if it meant someone was going to be sitting in front of a locker that said Tom Harmon. You'd have to ask whoever the nearest relative is.
  • Further locker room additions. Everyone who's been an All-American should have their name engraved in a fashion more understated than this legends designation…
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    ...but still be there. Having Chappius and Oosterbaan and Friedman and McKenzie and Dierdorf and Long's names up in the locker room would be a nice way to recognize All-Americans past.
  • Next up. AC and Woodson. If they don't put the retired numbers back in circulation. Jake Long would probably be next up way down the road.
  • The patch is too big. That's just, like, my opinion, man.

So there's this. Exploit your children for fun and profit:

Profit not applicable.

Pom-poms and RAWK and crowd noise. Is it just me or was the stadium not actually very loud when it would help out the most? The pom-poms encouraged people to use their hands shaking pom-poms instead of making noise and while the piped-in music was indeed loud, when it cut out the people in the stadium making noise were largely going "OH oh oh oh oh, OH oh oh oh oh" instead of "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA." The latter is louder.

Putting aside the insults to the Great Tradition they represent, is the noise level created by the frippery mostly cosmetic? It has seemed much louder in Michigan Stadium—I was frustrated as I was screaming myself hoarse on the last drive while people around me shook their little plastic thingies. Plastic thingy shaking is not that intimidating, people.

And then there's the guy two rows in front of you who's shaking the thing constantly so you can't see the game. In the South they have a protocol about these things: raise that thing above your shoulder during a play and you're not getting that arm back. Here we get them every five years or so and there's always someone who thinks row 14 is the last one.

Here!

Ace took a video of the final kickoff. I'm going to point you to "so I was like" again because dammit I can. Chunkums took some killer photos, but hasn't animated them yet:

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ST3 goes inside the box score. Michael Scarn says trying to describe that game was like taking a picture of Bigfoot. Post-ND MonuMental riff by ppToilet. (You can't choose your username, man, it chooses you.) MonuMental himself shows up to modify his Denard action figure for the occasion.

Elsewhere

Pretty much the best. An obviously drunk Jeff at Maize Pages digs up the fantastically entertaining Roundtree-Shaw Newlywed game BTN video in response to the delerium.

Photo galleries and assorted media. Pregame shots from MNB Nation. Other shots from MNBN. The Shredder took a zillion shots. Tailgating from AnnArbor.com. Also the game. Here's a great stadium shot from Melanie Maxwell:

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Also here's this dude:

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The whole gallery is worth checking out.

The Desmond Howard emospective has also been youtubed. Try not to get dusty. Ryan Terpstra is making a habit of filming the hell out of ridiculous ND victories:

Wolverine Historian put together a 28 minute highlight reel.

Column-type events. Wojo. More Wojo. MVictors also fills you in on the techno viking behind Hoke: yes, it's Steve Everitt, and no, you do not want to get between him and his cubs. Kyle Meinke says Denard was a big part of the offense and the running backs weren't and that's not so cool. Florek in the Daily.

UGA/M dual-fan Michael at Braves & Birds wonders whether it's better to play poorly and win (as Michigan did) or play well and lose (as Georgia did).

Entertaining serieseses of bullets. MVictors:

On the sunny side, they pulled out all the stops in the press box for the media on hand.  Witness the butter dish of victory:

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This might have been Brandon's special bonus.

Touch the Banner:

[Robinson's] total of 446 yards and 5 touchdowns was excellent, but how he got there was strange. Through three quarters of football, he was 4-for-14 passing (if that accuracy rate sounds familiarly horrible, that's because it's the same as Michigan's kickers circa 2010) for 136 yards, 1 touchdown, and 2 interceptions.  In the fourth stanza, Robinson went 8-for-11 for 217 yards, 3 touchdowns, and 1 interception, plus a recovered Stephen Hopkins fumble that he turned into a touchdown.

BWS:

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That graph is intended as a baseline estimator for a team's real-time win probability and is independent of situation, but the site also offers a crude win probability calculator, which, while it's calibrated to an NFL scale, can at least give us a decent estimate of how unlikely Michigan's victory was: four percent, Michigan's win probability after Notre Dame's slot receiver scampered into the endzone without a defender in site. Denard Robinson laughs at your probabilities and says, "Really? Oh man, that's crazy," and throws the ball to Jeremy Gallon standing alone in the Notre Dame secondary.

Maize and Blue Nation wins best headline: "The Denard. The Denard. The Denard."

National takes: Adam Jacobi marvels and notes that Robinson couldn't throw the ball even when he was completing passes; he also points out that uh… the Big Ten is not so much this year. Doctor Saturday:

Here, instead of merely covering poorly, Notre Dame subsequently failed to cover Wolverine receiver Jeremy Gallon at all, incredibly freeing him for a 64-yard sprint to the Irish 16-yard line with eight seconds left for a) A couple shots at the winning touchdown; b) A shot at a field goal to tie; or c) A confused catastrophe that left 110,000 people contemplated mass hara-kiri. With all of every one of those people secretly fearing c), Robinson delivered the dagger.

Bruce Feldman:

Robinson was, again, heroic for Michigan. He has brutalized the Irish the past two seasons, rolling up a mind-boggling 948 yards of total offense to go with eight TDs. His performance in the fourth quarter Saturday night was downright epic: 7 of 9, 202 yards, three passing touchdowns to go with six carries for 24 yards and another TD. In all, he accounted for a staggering 226 of his team's 229 yards.

In Case You Live Under A Rock

Title reference.

Comments

dahblue

September 12th, 2011 at 1:29 PM ^

The endless negativity (considering we're 2-0 with a top 5 recruiting class) is just bizarre by real world standards.  Does the team have holes?  Absolutely.  Without doubt.  Will those holes be corrected by running RR's get-Denard-killed offense?  No.  The bottom line is that Denard is both a big-time player and a turnover machine.  He likely always will be whether running RR's offense or Hoke's.  

My observation is that some people want Denard to pile up stats more than anything.  The crushing reality that folks don't want to face is that Denard is an amazing playmaker but not a great QB.  It's impossible not to love the guy, but we aren't a one-man team anymore.  Denard isn't being kept from running; he's just making some bad decisions. He'll get better (hopefully) and, more importantly, the team is going to progress as the season goes on.

Greg McMurtry

September 12th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^

but apparently he's injured.  What I didn't understand was Mike Shaw 2 carries for zero yards.  I mean the depth chart is Fitz or Shaw #1, then Smith, then Hopkins.  Unless the game plan was Hopkins because ND has a big D-line, I was expecting to see Shaw get a good amount of carries (after realizing Fitz was hurt.)

Needs

September 12th, 2011 at 12:57 PM ^

Yeah. It's not like Shaw had a bad game against WMU. The only reasonable explanation is that he's actually #3 on the depth chart, behind Fitz and Hopkins. After that game, though I expect that to change. I don't think Hopkins can be the feature back (or even the power back, that fumble, in that situation, is inexcusible). 

BlueFordSoftTop

September 12th, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^

When Hopkins was sent in, he appeared to have served largely as a decoy or blocker.  You already encapsulated Shaw.  If Fitz was healthy, he could at least have sprung Denard around the corners when he wasn't carrying.  I admit that while watching the game I did not understand our O plan at all until we went into two-minute.  Nada.  So with EMU being very winnable to put it mildly, why are there no official reports regarding the status of Fitz?  Curious.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 12th, 2011 at 12:38 PM ^

I didn't "miss" the interview, exactly.  I just didn't hear it because I was at a bar.  The TV was right in front of me so I just soaked up the smile.  I enjoyed every minute of this because I was with my cousin who is a Buckeye fan.  It was nice to actually hear it this time, though.

Also, the patches: Yes to the patches.  This is better than retiring numbers.  Much better.  Doesn't come with the problem of running out of numbers and is more permanent than a "jersey retirement."  Fantastic way to honor the history of the number.

Blue in Yarmouth

September 12th, 2011 at 12:38 PM ^

On the play where the QB  threw the ball backwards we have to give credit to old KH. I was watching the game at home and KH gave the irish the commentators jinx by saying just prior to the snap, "but keep in mind that ND turned the ball over multiple times in the redzone last week against USF." He said that between plays and the next play....Viola! QB backwards pass. Thanks KH!

Chris of Dange…

September 12th, 2011 at 1:56 PM ^

I caught that as well.  Normally I try to edit the highight videos pretty tight, without a lot of pre-snap bloviation, but I had to include that.

One of the announcers in the WMU game said basically the same thing (something about 'they can hang with 'better' teams for a while, then self destruct') just before a turnover.

Yinka Double Dare

September 12th, 2011 at 12:56 PM ^

I'm trying to figure out what that guy's costume was. 

1) The trash heap from Fraggle Rock?

2) A chunk of the turf from the bizarro world where we go Boise State and have maize turf?

or my best guess, 3) the new stadium mascot introduced for the night game, DownInFront, the Michigan Stadium Grouch.

markusr2007

September 12th, 2011 at 12:57 PM ^

with pro-set offensive football at the college level.  Seriously.  If I want that kind of entertainment, I'll watch the NFL on Sundays for all of the "exciting" run-run-pass-punt action!

What makes college football far better than the NFL EVERY YEAR NO EXCEPTIONS is that you have QBs who show their cajones, run the football, take hits and don't "sissy slide" for 1st downs because they're under financial contract from some American oligarch.

Mobile quarterbacks make college football exponentially better and more exciting. What's more, it's a Michigan tradition. It just depends on when you started watching the "Michigan Football Movie".  I started in the late 70s.  Those that grew up with Elvis Grbac at the helm obviously have a different perspective.

Denard somehow looked even faster running the ball on Saturday night, keeping the ball on option reads, faking the shit out of the defense.  In my opinion, he has done a far better job this year weaving through traffic making defenders look even more like they're standing still.  On one play he actually move the pile of defenders on his back forward for 7 additional yards. It was ridiculous.

Then you posted the John Navarre pic.

Borges can do well with any kind of QB.  Just look at all the QBs he has coached since his time with the Oakland Invaders to Denard Robinson - it's been every flavor from howitzer boy to "neurotic aaaaahhhh!" to a crazy legs kid.

But seeing Navarre there reminded me of Michigan's future destination of offensive scheme under Hoke. 

Like an exciting European city tour from Paris to Vienna to Prague, it's like the purser just told everyone over the intercom: "Next Stop Staines, UK!".

"Where?"

Talk about anti-climactic.

 

 

 

Fuzzy Dunlop

September 12th, 2011 at 1:36 PM ^

I agree, I remember watching USC's offense under Matt Leinart -- you remember, lefty pro-style QB, like the one we have coming in -- and thinking "my god, how boring this is."

To suggest that all pro-style offenses are boring because you didn't find our offense under Navarre aesthetically pleading is ridiculous.  Why don't you think about how our offense looked in the one glorious year with Henson as a starter, instead?

joeyb

September 12th, 2011 at 1:00 PM ^

A couple of unrelated points that I'd like to make:

First, I'm pretty sure what Herbstreit kept calling the read option was not a read option. It looked like the backside DE was getting blocked away from the play, opening a wide hole. The fake handoff to the RB and the rest of the line sliding forced the LBs to move with them. The RB then counters to block for Denard, which doesn't happen in the read option. This looked like a well-designed play with no read IMO.

Second, from what I saw in the replays, it looked like Denard gave Hopkins a low handoff again and Hopkins never got possession of the ball on that fumble TD. At this point, I don't know if this is a Denard issue or a Hopkins issue as usually that type of mistake is on the QB, but this only seems to happen with Hopkins.

Blue in Yarmouth

September 12th, 2011 at 1:38 PM ^

on your other point, I thought the same as you (in regard to it not being a read-option) on most plays until I watched it over again. I am not sure if it is a just a different spin on the read option, but Denard seemed to be holding the ball in there a awful long time if he wasn't actually reading anything. That is what had me believing it was a read option and not just a designed run, but I am not that well educated in the finer points of football.

champswest

September 12th, 2011 at 1:02 PM ^

offense and I was wondering how many games (if ever) it would take him to reach a comfort level and be productive.  I still don't know.  But, we are in a catch 22.  If we build the offense strictly around DR abilities and then he goes down, where does that leave us?  Do we stick with the current offense and try to improve it and improve DR's performance within it?  It is not easy to switch back and forth depending on who your QB is for that game.

As for all the credit that DR is getting for this game (and he rightly deserves a lot), his recievers bailed him out on a lot of plays with both amazing catches and with YAC. 

BornInAA

September 12th, 2011 at 1:04 PM ^

pipe in here...

You can only install so many plays per week. Plays have to be taught then repped dozens of times before all 11 players (and backups) perform it well enough for game time.

These new plays will tend to be called in the 1st half - to see if they are effective. Then if they fail a few times you start putting in the older proven plays. You don't want to put in new plays with the game on the line in the second half.

This is why Michigan's 1st half offensive looks very conservative and sluggish as new plays are called. Eventually, in the second half it's mostly the old plays (spread).

 

msoccer10

September 12th, 2011 at 1:04 PM ^

People critizing Brian are missing the point. He is absolutely right that putting Denard in the I takes away the threat of a Denard run. And since opponents don't fear our power running game, it also puts double coverage on our receivers.

Denard shouldn't run the ball more than 10-15 times a game (except in dire circumstances) but the threat of him running should be there on every play, which is why he should be in shotgun 95% of the time. For instance, Smith's TD happened because Denard started running right before throwing back left. That  made the play just as much as Smith dodging defenders.

Now if we get our running game straightened out, I don't mind the I. But right now its not good and our best running back didn't play. Looking forward to the UFR because it felt like I form was half the snaps, but I am probably remembering that wrong.

Finally, Borges deserves a lot of credit for Gallon being open on the 2nd to last play. It was a really well designed route that sent Gallon from the slot to the sideline while running two other receivers on long routes that occupied the DBs on the right side of the field.

oriental andrew

September 12th, 2011 at 1:10 PM ^

the 1995 pigskin classic against UVA.  That was the start of my sophomore year at Michigan.  Michigan was down 17-0 at the start of the 4th quarter.  That was a pretty good UVA team, featuring a couple brothers named Tiki and Ronde Barber.  They killed us all game, by the way.  Anyway, it had been noted repeatedly during the telecast that Michigan had never come back to win a game while trailing by more than 14 points.  Seriously, like every 3 minutes they mentioned that. 

The final scoring drive was gripping.  A kid named Scott Dreisbach was at the helm and had driven Michigan from their own 20 to the Virginia 15.  1st and 10 - incomplete to Riemersma.  2nd and 10 - incomplete to Toomer.  3rd and 10 - incomplete to Butterfield.  4th and 10 with 4 seconds to go in the game, down 17-12.  Mercury Hayes to the right corner of the endzone came down with the ball and foot in bounds as time expired.  Michigan wins 18-17.  I had the game recorded on our VCR.  That was an epic moment and I'd put it right on par with the Buffalo Stampede. 

dcmaizeandblue

September 12th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^

I'd say just add that name to the patch and make the font a little smaller.  Although I think this should be reserved for Heisman winners and the numbers that have already been retired.  I think Jake Long is a stretch personally.  Not that he wasn't amazing but what about Dierdorf and all the other great linemen who have played here?  Brian is being was too short sighted in his suggestions in my opinion.  Adding something to the lockers for All Americans could be a good idea but the term Legendary should not be taken lightly.

Shop Smart Sho…

September 12th, 2011 at 1:11 PM ^

You are just wrong about the crowd noise.  I'm not a huge fan of the piped in music, but it was VERY effective.  I sit around some of the worst "down in fronters" in the stadium, and even they stood for 80% of the game making noise.

 

I'm not even sure what your bizarre rant about the pom-poms is supposed to mean.  Do you really expect people to clap extra loud when it is important?  I'm not quite sure how that works.  Why don't you go look at the video of the crowd when the people were using those things?  Maybe then you'll be suitably impressed by what it looked like.  Or, someone should explain to you that the loud sounds come out of your mouth, which is not at all hindered by having something in your hands.

 

I normally love what you write, but this crusade against the music and poms needs to DIAF.

Ed Shuttlesworth

September 12th, 2011 at 1:12 PM ^

Enough with the meme that the interceptions were caused by taking the snap from under center, rather than in the shotgun.  

Denard threw a ten-yard screen pass ten feet over the receiver's head.  That has nothing to do with where he took the snap.  He threw another interception because he threw into double coverage.

Denard made meh decisions and poor throws last year.  It is who he is.

I'm enjoying the total package that is Denard, but big picture, barring a significant improvement -- entirely independent of what he's being asked to do -- he's a transitional figure from the period when our talent level wasn't good enough to win to the period when, hopefully, it will be.

None of which is meant to lessen the fact that he is, it's undeniably true, a unique and, at his best, luminescent talent.  

BlueVoix

September 12th, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^

It was.  That thing was gone for a TD, but as they showed on tv (about thirty times, bleh), Denard never turned his head and actually fired a blind pass.  That isn't on the formation or the play; that's Denard.

jamiemac

September 12th, 2011 at 1:14 PM ^

You know what was wrong with the running attack?

Not enough touches for Vincent Smith, thats what

I realize touchdowns against Wisco, OSU, Iowa, UConn, and Notre Dame arent the same as nine carries against Delaware State and EMU, but I think Smith needs to get more touches. He's just a baller......funny, the team can find a way to score points even when he's the I-back

jamiemac

September 12th, 2011 at 1:43 PM ^

I knew I could smoke you out with some well placed, fudged facts, lol

Did you hear me scream Vincent Smith over and over again during and after that TD run from your neck of the woods. Oh man, I popped my vocal cords yelling his name....might have to be my new O-scream, lulz

He needs touches. They're also playing him as a first down back out of the I because they know how much of  a baller he is, and how much the team feeds off his toughness. Dude is just a good football player and it looks like he's getting some of that hop back he had before his injury......had Denard hit him on the first screen, I think he houses that, too

Its not Vincent's fault none of the other backs are panning out. Sometimes, he gets the touches because he's the only one that wont fawk up

Love #2. A LOT

Magnus

September 12th, 2011 at 1:54 PM ^

I love him, too.  I just don't want him getting 15-20 carries a game.

FWIW, I think that first screen pass would have been snuffed out regardless of how accurate it was.  The dude who intercepted it (Gray?) was right behind Smith and probably would have hit him before Smith had a chance to make anything happen.

joeyb

September 12th, 2011 at 3:57 PM ^

I agree with him that Cox has looked the most talented in the limited playing time he has seen. I mean, have we seen a RB average more than 3 YPC (2 YPC if you take away Smith's one run for 3 yards) against BCS talent yet? I think they are all equivalent if they can't average at least 4 YPC against a good team. If none of the guys we have seen so far can do that, then I don't see why they don't give Cox a try. I think when he gets his shot, he will make the most out of it.

joeyb

September 12th, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^

The last coaching staff had Demens behind Ezeh and this coaching staff had Hawthorne mixed in with a bunch of others until this game. Some guys are just Main St. guys and until they find a back that can carry the ball for an average that would result in first downs for us, I don't think they should be holding anything back.

Aequitas

September 12th, 2011 at 1:16 PM ^

We have Denard, we don't have a 6' 5" 230 lb gunslinger.  This staff adjusted enough to win the game.  All I can ask is that they put the players in situations where they can be successful.

Trying the power game is fine, it'll come eventually as our line gets better each year.  They went away from it when they had to and put Denard on the move, sucking up safeties and linebackers to got us some wide open stuff.  I don't know much about Borges, but you can't criticize a known offensive coaching commidity for being too rigid, and then not hold the next guy to the same standard.

Borges adapts to what he CURRENTLY has, or he's a fool.  Period.

Needs

September 12th, 2011 at 1:24 PM ^

Did you not see the play-calling adapting as the game goes on? Borges is trying to figure out what works. This is, after all, his second game calling plays for this collection of players.

The struggles early in this game are going to end up being enormously helpful because they provide a wealth of information about what didn't work.

Aequitas

September 12th, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^

that I did see them adapt.  I was speaking just now to the larger discussion of getting Denard to be something he's not vs letting Denard be Denard.

I agree with your later point, as well.  Analyzing the things we did wrong are just as important as analyzing the things that worked.

lexus larry

September 12th, 2011 at 4:01 PM ^

but how long to wait?  How deep a hole?  Was anyone truly that confident that ND would have 5 turnovers, 1-2 in the red zone, etc?

Trying new line-ups and different plays or alignments is great, but when down 17-7 and stymied is not the time to say, let's wait until the second half to make our adjustments...