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THE ESSENTIALS

WHAT NC State at Michigan
WHERE Crisler Center, Ann Arbor, Michigan
WHEN 7:30 PM Eastern, Tuesday
LINE Michigan –11 (Kenpom)
TV ESPN

 

Right: Mark Gottfried continues Sidney Lowe's tradition of wearing pretty incredible suits.

THE THEM

NC State started off the season ranked #6 in both polls but has tumbled to #18—and #31 in KenPom—after a 20-point loss to Oklahoma State and a two-point win over UNC-Asheville in the last ten days. Despite the early-season struggles, this is one of the most talented teams Michigan will face all year, as the Wolfpack return four starters from a team that gave Kansas a serious scare in last season's Sweet 16.

There's not a lot of depth on the Wolfpack, but they spread the load very evenly among their seven-man rotation—six players average 24-32 minutes and 10.6-14.8 points per game. Every man on the court is a threat to score, though some are more efficient in that regard than others.

The highest-usage guy thus far is lead guard Lorenzo Brown, and that hasn't been a positive: he's boasting an ugly 35.9 eFG% and his 25% assist rate is offset by a 28.3% turnover rate. Brown's a decent slasher with a knack for getting to the line, however, and at 6'5" he's a tough matchup at the point.

Brown is joined in the backcourt by McDonald's All-American freshman Rodney Purvis, a 6'2" scorer who can finish at the rim or hit from the outside (10-17 3PT). With senior three-man Scott Wood (13-29 3PT), NC State has a pair of outside shooting threats that Michigan must watch carefully.

NC State's best player so far this year has been freshman four T.J. Warren, a highly regarded recruit who's currently hitting 70.7% of his two-point shots, including a remarkable 91% rate at the rim. Though he's got good size at 6'8", 233, Warren hasn't done much on the boards, and he's shooting a dismal 7-18 at the free-throw line—giving him a good hack when he gets the ball at the rim is not a bad idea at all.


C.J. Leslie

On the inside, the Wolfpack boast a solid two-man rotation in junior C.J. Leslie and senior Richard Howell. Leslie, a viable NBA prospect, was the team's leading scorer last year and has improved greatly at finishing around the rim since his freshman year. Like Warren, his weakness comes at the line, where he shot 60% last year and is a little below that mark so far this season. Howell is the team's big body at 6'8", 261, and he's an excellent rebounder on both ends of the count.

That's about it as far as the rotation goes; freshman point guard Tyler Lewis will see a few minutes—he's attempted all of ten shots and has had some turnover issues. Sophomore big Thomas de Theay may see spot minutes in the event of foul trouble—he's appeared in three of the team's five games this year. EDIT: de Theay left the program on Monday. So yeah, they're very thin up front.

THE RESUME

Along with the aforementioned Ok. State loss and narrow win over UNC-Asheville, NC State has a trio of victories over less-than-formaidable opponents: Miami (OH), Penn State, and UMass.

THE TEMPO-FREE

Here are the four factors numbers from both last and this year:

  Off. 11-12 Off. 12-13 Def. 11-12 Def. 12-13
eFG% 50.4 (118) 57.0 (16) 47.1 (85) 44.0 (72)
Turnover % 18.7 (81) 19.1 (106) 18.6 (256) 18.6 (259)
Off. Reb % 35.8 (45) 31.1 (197) 30.9 (121) 31.7 (149)
FTA/FGA 36.3 (174) 43.5 (70) 32.1 (71) 27.4 (46)

NC State wasn't a lights-out shooting squad last year but they've improved with the additions of Purvis and Warren in a small sample size. The defense is relatively average—none of their players is noted for his efforts on that end—doesn't force a lot of turnovers, and blocks a very low percentage of opponent shots (5.8%).

Most of the Wolfpack's shots come from inside the arc, though they're well above-average connected on both threes and twos; they struggle mightily from the charity stripe, however, hitting just 61.3% there.

THE PROTIPS

Um, keep doing what you've been doing? I mean, right?

Attack the rim. NC State's big man rotation consists of all of two players, essentially—Warren is more in the Glenn Robinson III mold of a relatively skinny finisher who can get by at the four due to superior athleticism. Michigan has gone to the rim far more this season than in years past under Beilein; Tim Hardaway Jr., Robinson, Trey Burke, and even Nik Stauskas can all score off the drive. If Michigan can get Leslie and Howell into foul trouble, the Wolfpack will be forced to go small and inexperienced up front, and should be ripe for the picking defensively.

Use those fouls. This is going to take a long time to get used to saying, but Michigan has plenty of depth up front. NC State's bigs are very efficient at scoring around the rim, but downright bad at earning their points at the free-throw line. If Jordan Morgan, Mitch McGary, and Jon Horford have to resort to delivering a good thwack to Warren or Leslie to prevent a layup, so be it. Michigan should be able to survive foul trouble even if they have to turn to Blake McLimans and Max Bielfeldt for spot duty—both have proven passable in limited stretches this year.

Keep doing what you've been doing. I mean, yeah.

THE SECTION WHERE I PREDICT THE SAME THING KENPOM DOES

Michigan by 11

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November 27th, 2012 at 6:17 PM | Good write-up. (Score:2)
DingoBlue
Joined: 02/21/2012
MGoPoints: 171

Nice to see hoops previews on here again.  One quick note, I think I read on UMHoops that Thomas de Theay is no longer with NC State.  This makes NC State's frontcourt depth shakier.  Jordan Vandenberg is the bench center option (7'0").  19 total minutes played so far.

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November 27th, 2012 at 6:40 PM | True test (Score:1)
Bush_League_All_Star
Joined: 11/26/2012
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This should be the truest test so far for Michigan. If the team is what they are looking like, I would expect nothing less than a double digit margin of victory tonight. I have always liked Beilein's style as far as getting the most out of his players, but when you get great players, you get more out of them. I am officially bought in.

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November 27th, 2012 at 6:47 PM | Can't see such a young team (Score:2)
CLord
Joined: 09/11/2011
MGoPoints: 540

Can't see such a young team beating such veteran team by double digits. This game is a toss up I think with our home court giving us the slight edge. M by 3

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November 27th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | Not so sure youth matters. A (Score:1)
Bush_League_All_Star
Joined: 11/26/2012
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Not so sure youth matters. A la Kentucky las year.

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November 27th, 2012 at 6:46 PM | 11 point line by Kenpom, and (Score:2)
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11 point line by Kenpom, and a prediction of an 11 point win for UM. I take it you're a numbers guy eh? lol

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November 27th, 2012 at 7:17 PM | Umm, maybe I'm missing (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
Joined: 12/29/2010
MGoPoints: 4904

Umm, maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the section titled "The Section Where I Predict The Same Thing Kenpom Does" always have the same prediction as Kenpom?

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | I'm saying he must really (Score:2)
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I'm saying he must really trust the metrics. Like guys who value baseball players by wins above replacement, and WAR only.

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November 27th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | It will be interesting to see (Score:1)
Jack Daniels
Joined: 05/12/2012
MGoPoints: 293

It will be interesting to see if McGary and Warren ever become matched up, because they were teammates at Brewster last year. Not very likely though, seeing as they have Leslie and Howell

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November 27th, 2012 at 7:12 PM | Use fouls, but make them good (Score:2)
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Use fouls, but make them good ones.  I hate seeing cheap ones that quickly get people to two, and a seat on the bench.

We can has reboundz?  It almost seems strange, given our recent history, that we might outrebound teams now.  But I will adjust to this new concept.

So good to see b-ball on the rise.  Go Blue!

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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November 27th, 2012 at 7:39 PM | Rebounding hurt us more than (Score:1)
Bush_League_All_Star
Joined: 11/26/2012
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Rebounding hurt us more than anything last year. Unbelievable how many offensive boards we have been getting so far.

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