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Come tailgate, support kids. A reminder that you can join us and former players tomorrow at the Go Blue Bowl Tailgate organized by Marlin Jackson's organization (specifically through the efforts of an extraordinary lady named Kat Mills). This is for charity so suggested minimum donation of $5 if you're just coming for the Q&A and more if you plan to drink beer and hang for awhile.

A couple of Marlin's high donors deserve recognition: Huron Valley Financial, the Bank of Ann Arbor, and MDen. Christians Catering is bringing food, and the Beer Grotto in Dexter is providing the beer. Full details at the link.

If you ask me, it's better to go. Everyone wants to do something to demonstrate that Michigan fans are fed up with a director who treats this program like his personal play toy, and that the public who do own this public institution are sick of it being hoarded, and its name besmirched by dishonesty and obfuscation (Best & Worst).

But for the record, I'm not in favor of boycotts, walkouts, late arrivals, or any other form of protest in which the protestors miss a snap, because I think it misses the target while undermining the one thing we all care about the most.

I know after the Minnesota game that Brian called for a boycott of Maryland if Brandon and Hoke were still here, and I know what name's on my paychecks. I know the players aren't made of glass, and that they're well aware that the vitriol toward the people in charge is not directed at them, although they generally take attacks on their coaches personally (they chose them after all).

But I didn't know until fairly recently why it's so important to them that fans show up: To a player, fans equal energy. Human brains are not wired to grant conscious access to the body's full capacity. Put a hungry lion behind the 20th fastest man on the planet and Usain Bolt will be left in his dust. Whatever our expectations for athletes we paid massive sums to see, they cannot escape their own psychology.James Monroe cockade while minister to france

CSG president Bobby Dishell's heart is in the right place, but he's wrong: you're not hurting the players; you're hurting their performance.

Athletes draw motivation from the crowd. Michigan Stadium's size is a huge recruiting tool because an athlete brain understands intuitively that 109,000 shouting faces will get more out of him than 84,000. The number gets in their heads, but empty seats do as well. Go watch September baseball at a bad team's venue long after they've been eliminated: it's crap. Every play that your seat is empty contributes a tiny bit to Michigan (and, coincidentally, their opponent) playing a bit worse.

Weigh that against the maximum that you will realistically move the decision of Mark Schlissel. Your empty seat speaks, but you can also be in that seat screaming "Go!" at Blue to the furthest extent of your vocal capacity whenever they take the field or need a boost, and screaming "Fire Brandon!" whenever he starts trying to blast you. I think we can get that message across while taking a cue from old blue, and using this weekend to show the players we haven't checked out on them. You can make a statement with where you choose to put your ass, but that's hardly the most effective communicative tool in your anatomical package.

Here's what I suggest we do tomorrow: From the moment the band finishes marching off until kickoff chant "Let's Go Blue!" as loud as you fucking can. At the end of the the game, win or lose, stand in your seat and chant "Let's Go Blue!" AS LOUD. AS. YOU. FUCKING. CAN. In between, scream your head off on Penn State 3rd downs, boo the attendance lie, and sprinkle in "Fire Brandon!" as necessary.

Let's leave Hoke alone, since it does us no good if he loses the team now, and his fate is sealed to his record (Ron Utah with some candidate grades) so any more dogging from us is superfluous. ST3 made the case that the coaching staff has cost Michigan perhaps three wins with strategic errors: dumb-punting vs. Utah, starting Shane, and giving Rutgers that end-of-1st-half drive. I think it's more accurate to say that these coaching errors put Michigan at a small strategic disadvantage, and that the team is not so good that it can win without every scrap of advantage it can get.

Yes, showing up and laying off the coach is what Dave Brandon wants you to do. Fuck him; we come to root for Michigan.

[Jump: clans, coaches, etc.]

The clans and their coaches. Remember the clans?

DecaturFierce PragsIn Rod We TrustedLloyd Lyoyalists

RebellionThe 2nd EstateBoclancorduroy jacket patch clanCotton Pickin Blues

Saveferris revisited them four years hence. We got diaries this week from most of these sides.

Ever critical of the Empire, the Rebellion managed to find proof that Michigan was playing a man down on one punt return after a timeout. Yes, it happened. Again. I remember John L. Smith's Spartans having this problem, and that he "solved" it by having a mat with each 11 jersey numbers on it—a friend remarked upon seeing it that this really puts the "special" in "special teams." I don't think it's such a huge deal; it happens way more often than you think.

For the fierce pragmatists, MichAero put together an interesting diary of offensive YPC judged against what the opponents usually give up.

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Last year/this year

By this metric the running game is improved; it's the passing game that's inexplicably gone off a cliff.

THE_KNOWLEDGE I guess represents the estate, who have convinced themselves they can keep Brandon and Hoke and make it work out if Urban and Saban come to coordinate.

"CC:" in a thread title stands for "coaching change." It is there so that anyone who doesn't want to discuss that can stay away from it. There were a lot of them. Alum put together a fairly comprehensive update on some coaching candidate targets and how they've been faring. Libertine produced a helpful list of ages. Mark Stoops was added to the pile, as was Gary Patterson.

Etc. A guy took in a Colorado State game for atmospheric comparison. No thanks for the reminder, Joe.

Best of the Board

WHAT WE WANT

M-Dog finally put down a list of things fans want changed about out athletic office other than Dave Brandon and his cronies thrown out of it. Shortly:

  • Don't gouge us so blatantly
  • Act like adults when you get in trouble.
  • Treat it like a public institution and stakeholders as people.
  • Transparency and honesty in all things wherever possible.
  • Stand up for tradition.
  • Non-profit in deed, not just name.
  • Include students and general fan representatives in decisions.
  • Don't play ingroups against each other.
    To this I add take your hands off things you don't need to be involved with, specifically local charities with various ties to the university, and things the band does outside of athletic events.

WE NEVER LEARN

Michigan's Third-Quarter Point Differential vs. Power 5 Schools (Last 8 Games)
Date Michigan 3Q Pts Opponent 3Q Pts
Nov. 16, 2013 Michigan 0 Northwestern 3
Nov. 23, 2013 Michigan 0 Iowa 7
Nov. 30, 2013 Michigan 0 Ohio State 14
Dec. 28, 2013 Michigan 0 Kansas State 0
Sept. 6, 2014 Michigan 0 Notre Dame 7
Sept. 20, 2014 Michigan 0 Utah 7
Sept. 27, 2014 Michigan 0 Minnesota 17
Oct. 4, 2014 Michigan 0 Rutgers 0
Total Michigan 0 Opponent 55

Via MNB, Michigan has been outscored 55-0 in the 3rd quarters of games vs. Power 5 teams, going back to Northwestern last year. I suggest we start a fan movement to change the traditional halftime speech from "Go punch yourself in the face for 15 minutes!" to anything else.

GET MAD, BRADY!

No it's not why Michigan got double-hosed on one ludicrous call, nor is it why the other team got hosed a few times on bad calls, but it's just a fact: Brady doesn't seem to get mad at the refs. Fans want less clap, more Bo. I think this is just a character thing; some coaches lose their shit and some guys have more composure.

ETC. Mullen things from SI and Grantland. Hockey beat some guy named Wilfrid Laurier. Chris video'ed the Countess jam thing I covered in Hokepoints.

Your Moment of Zen:

Comments

Webber's Pimp

October 10th, 2014 at 12:49 PM ^

So starting Shane was a tactical error? I'm surprised by the statement and its refreshing to read...After all, many idiot fans were calling for a QB change. It was a mistake of course and it was patently obvious to Gardner supporters (myself included). But because our fans couldn't get behind our 5th year senior proven starting QB, Hoke was practically bullied by a significant portion of the fan base into making a QB change. 

Seth

October 10th, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^

Idiot fans call for the backup quarterback, the backup goalie, the fourth outfielder, the 5th man, the rookie wing, etc. ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Here's my quarterbacking the week BEFORE Minnesota:

Seth: I am not one to argue with any part of Sam Webb's gastrointestinal system, and that's the only reason I think Morris is the likely starter, barring some sort of all-hands trolling of the fanbase for wishing a firing upon the men in charge (Hoke knows Kill too well to think the Gophers won't prepare for both).

Who should start? Gardner. Gardner. Gardner Gardner Gardner. Certainly he has looked pretty wobbly this season, and certainly the reasons for it aren't going to go away in a week. But Gardner is a senior and was responsible for two of the best performances by a Michigan quarterback in memory: Adam mentioned the ND game last year (with 56% of blitzers unblocked!!!) and I add to that the Ohio State game. Gardner on a roll is a sight to behold.

Is that good enough that I can question the decision now?

Coaches are expected to do the right things with their players, because they have way more information about those players than the fans do. So even if fans were clamoring for Sugar Shane after Gardner's worst back to back performances of his career, the coaches can absolutely be judged for it.

BradP

October 10th, 2014 at 1:46 PM ^

As one of those idiots who wanted at least to see what Morris could do, I was wrong.

But I don't believe I was wrong because of what you say.  I was wrong because I had expectations that Morris might be able to perform the way kids around his recruiting profile had performed:  Kenny Hill, JT Barrett, Anu Solomon.

I was not wrong because Devin was better than I thought, I was wrong because Shane Morris was much worse than I had ever expected.

So two questions to you:

1)  Do you expect to see 2013 ND/OSU Devin to make an appearance this year?

2)  Did you expect Morris to be as completely unprepared as he was?

 

Webber's Pimp

October 10th, 2014 at 3:51 PM ^

I think Devin's best is yet to come. He played well last week against Rutgers. he may have a monster game or two left in him. It depends on what kind of line blocking we get.

On Shane, I didn't expect him to do any better than Gardner. He doesn't have Gardner's game breaking mobility and his passing game is a work in progress (to be kind). I though we saw all we needed to see from Shane during the bowl game against Kansas State. I wasn't impressed at all with that performance and I just didn't see what could have changed over the course of a few months. He'll need time to develop. At this point I honestly think Malzone and Speight have a better shot at starting next year. 

Webber's Pimp

October 10th, 2014 at 3:43 PM ^

Agreed. I think Hoke showed no guts when he decided to make the switch. I'm with you. When Gardner is on a roll he is a sight to behold. As good as anybody in the country imho. Consistency is the issue with him. I really think he is much better than anybody gives him credit for and its a shame he's having to play behind a woefully inadequate line. As I've noted in previous posts, this is one of the two worst offensive lines that I've seen at Michigan during my lifetime. 

Also, it was pretty clear to me that Shane Morris was not prepapred to quarterback the team. He's got a cannon arm but I'll trade that for accuracy any day. At this point I'm not sure Shane will ever be the starter at Michigan. He's been a dissapointment given he's been in the program for a full year already.  

CompleteLunacy

October 10th, 2014 at 1:33 PM ^

I am not in any way going to believe that Hoke was "bullied by fans" into making the Qb change. Nobody in that stadium is as knowledgable as the coaches on the strengths and weaknesses of their QBs. The idea that fans would force their hand is, frankly, asinine. And if it is even remotely true, then Hoke needs to be fired right now.

And the idea that every fan who wanted Morris to start is an "idiot" is insulting. Hindsight is always 20/20. But going into that game, Gardner had shown next to nothing on the year to warrant automatically keeping the job, and many of us thought he was hiding an injury of some sort. Obviously by the 3rd wuarter it was clear we were so so wrong, and I'm willing to eat crow on that, but it wasn't that ridiculous of an option at the time. 

Webber's Pimp

October 10th, 2014 at 3:56 PM ^

It was really a combination of fans and media. But the fact is Brady Hoke caved in to the pressure...

 

Didn't mean to be insulting but the fact is Morris showed nothing in the bowl game to make us believe that he could be a superior option to a 5th year proven QB with game tremenodu breaking ability. Any idea to the contrary is/was wishful thinking.

KillaCam

October 10th, 2014 at 12:48 PM ^

Seth essentially says "hey you guys, let's become the Chicago Cubs of college football!" 

Which is, as he admits, exactly what DB wants.  All based on some theory that more fans equals more effort.  Which is at best a very flawed theory.  

You know what also brings out more effort?  Being pissed off.  Let's stop hand wringing about hurting the players' feelings and accept it - we're mad, we're going to make the players mad, DB's going to be mad at the empty seats, everyone's going to be mad, and that's OK.  We'll all make up once this ordeal is over and DB is gone.

Incidently, pissing people off to get something accomplished and then making up was one of Bo's primary motivational tactics.  See, e.g. the whole Andy Cannavino story.

 

 

bronxblue

October 10th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^

You can only piss people off so much before they just kinda tune out.  This team has been under attack in various ways for weeks now, and their struggles aren't really based on effort as much as execution.  And while I'm sure pushing people in spurts helps, "motivation" doesn't seem to be the issue here as much as preparation and cohesiveness by the coaches and players.

Seth

October 10th, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^

Brandon don't care. His response to all criticism so far has been 'they're just dumbfuck fans; let the rabble rabble.' His latest was "They don't know me; I'm a good guy."

He is deaf to empty seats. He and Martin are the guys who looked at 300,000 season ticket wannabe holders for a stadium that can sell 109,000, and leveraged that into 92,000 season ticket holders at 3x the price. Empty seats are a sunk cost; he'd rather have one guy paying 5x as much as your family of four.

This administration can't be embarassed because they can't fathom they they're anything less than perfect unless the dollars drop. Schlissel is an unknown but if he's a rational person he's looking at a fanbase he already knows is pissed off, and weighing it against whether another guy can convince the big money donors to stick. Brian and I went back and forth a few weeks ago on gchat about whether Brandon's incremental revenue is replaceable and I'm still not so sure.

In the meantime, I want to beat Penn State and Indiana and Maryland and Northwestern, because losing gets us nothing. I want to beat MSU and OSU too but I'm realistic.

I think if anything can sway Schlissel's opinion, it's not fans standing outside; it's fans inside screaming for Brandon to be sacked just as loud as they are for Hackenberg. I think that's the best way to demonstrate our vision of the athletic department: that the fans are passionate to support it out of our good will without the necessity of Dave Brandon to pry it from us.

KillaCam

October 10th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^

If you start with the premise that DB don't care about empty seats, I could see the merits in your view.  I think it'd also be a good reason for the MGoStore to start stocking FIRE DAVE t-shirts that one could wear to games whilst still protesting DB and shouting Go-Blue.

I think reasonable minds can disagree on the empty seats issue. 

I see it has a big problem because if done competently, it will be national news that DB will be forced to address, and that will prompt more flooded inboxes as a result.  There really is no long term cost to this approach in my view.  We've had bad attendance long ago, we'll have it at some point in the future.  The real cost is short term bullshit and hurt feelings, but I think it's inevitable at this point, and I'm confident that we'll come together again, just as other programs do once the Ws start adding up. 

 

imdwalrus

October 10th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

If you start with the premise that DB don't care about empty seats, I could see the merits in your view.
Problem is, that view falls apart once you remember the increasingly desperate emails, Groupon, the Coke promo... The athletic department is desperate to fill seats and maintain the streak.

Bodogblog

October 10th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^

I wonder how long it takes for some of the posters on this board to subtly, and then not so subtly, begin attacking Seth for this view... Just as they have Brian Cleary, Desmond Howard, the CSG President, and any other dissident to the boycott cause.

Yo_Blue

October 10th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^

The Moment of Zen reminded me of my outrage at the game.  No one sitting around me had any idea either.  Rutgers was letting the clock run down and ended up taking a delay of game penalty.  The refs marked off the 5 yards and started both the play clock and the game clock.  At this point Rutgers again ran down the clock before snapping the ball.  WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?!?!?  If that is the rule, then teams with a lead would continually take delay of games until the clock ran out.

Since I was at the game I didn't have the benefit of hearing any explanation.  Was one given on TV?

Seth

October 10th, 2014 at 1:25 PM ^

They took a false start, not a delay of game, I thought, and that was the point. The rule says the clock stops if the leading team takes a hold or false start or other run the clock penalty inside a minute, but technically if there's 1:25 left or whatever it was it's okay. This rule needs to be changed; Rutgers apparently used the loophole to get an extra play's worth of clock run down.

Yo_Blue

October 10th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^

That's like the 10 second automatic runoff that someone used (Penn State maybe) on a kickoff to run out the clock a few years ago.  They kept intentionally jumping offsides to run the clock 10 seconds at a time until the game was over.  That rule was fixed.  How do the NCAA weinies not anticipate teams taking advantage of these things?  Oh wait, I guess I am expecting them to have coherent thought processes.  Never mind.

68 Wolverine

October 10th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^

So many times I see some stats or a chart like Seth's Third-Quarter Point Differential above and wonder if the coaches have someone that shows them something similar. Thats assuming Brady would communicate with a statistician... Why does it seem like so much good information is not accessible to those who need it.

bigmc6000

October 10th, 2014 at 2:16 PM ^

I don't understand the confusion. The students ARE NOT MISSING A SNAP, they are boycotting UNTIL kickoff. Maybe I just don't get the confusion but it understood it that they are going to be standing elsewhere in the stadium so that one wedge is dead empty and then come fill it in at kickoff. Is that not the plan? If not, it should be.


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CompleteLunacy

October 10th, 2014 at 2:47 PM ^

How approximately five to ten thousand students will go from "not in the stands" to "in the stands" in the 40 seconds between the kickoff and snap #1. And even if that's the plan...it's not going to look like a boycott at all, it's going to look like a bunch of lazy students showing up late because they don't care about the team anymore.

tricks574

October 10th, 2014 at 5:56 PM ^

And why I find it hard to fault anyone who doesn't, is the simple fact that if you treat people like customers, then they will behave as such. Michigan fandom isn't a family anymore, and support is now a business decision. I know that sucks for the kids, who didn't decide to gouge ticket prices or run idiotic soda promotions, but that's just how it is. There are plenty of people who bust their ass just as hard and aren't good enough at football to play it in front of 100,000 fans.

Umich97

October 10th, 2014 at 7:07 PM ^

Wear shirts or bring signs that say "I support our players" or something along that lines? Makes it clear we support the players (obviously), yet at the same time clearly implies that we don't support the bigger picture. Kinda like the ribbon people put on their cars showing they "support our troops".

Umich97

October 10th, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^

I'm not a fan of boycotting games played by student-athletes. If you want to boycott a professional team, by all means go ahead. However, boycotting games played by fellow students or students younger than us alums who chose to come play for our school...come on man! That's just tasteless. Find a different way to voice your displeasure at the issues you're not happy with, which I'm sure for all of us, is nothing even remotely related to the players.