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So that happened. This was a spoof off of Michael Irvin and Warren Sapp's "U Know It"—the U meaning what you think it means. Relevant information to recruits:

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They also point out that Ohio State has never had a quarterback play in the Super Bowl. This got me wondering which schools produced the most SB starters. Results are in a Google Sheet.

The two tied at the top are Stanford (two Plunketts, five Elways) and Notre Dame (Montana's four, Theismann twice, and Daryle Lamonica). Brady now has Michigan at six, tied for second with "the Cradle of Quarterbacks" (Purdue, in that needs to be pointed out now). I didn't count schools that guys transferred from—if you do, Russell Wilson gives NC State two, Vince Ferragamo credits UCLA as well as Nebraska, Jeff Hostetler gives Penn State another, and Troy Aikman puts Oklahoma on the board—still no Bucks. All hail Touchdown Tom!

Filling the Class

This year's diary rock star alum96 kind of collated the knowns and unknowns and think we knowns and Sam Webb hinted at knowns regarding the 2015 class as Michigan races to fill at least six and maybe as many as 11 more spots. He's updated the diary so it's fresh, and also added a profile of Zach Gentry, who seems to be trending very blue.

Versus a Bivouac Wolverine? I've met a lot of different groups of Michigan fans, enough to start finding slight differences in what they like to talk about. Western Michigan fans have to deal with a greater number of Domers, East Coasters tend to care a lot more about Penn State, Southern transplants need constant ammunition against SEC der. Ohioans have a Bo-like loyalty that can only come from a fandom borne under siege. Ann Arborites don't need arguments for what's good about the program; they want to know what's wrong and how do we fix it right now!

In Metro Detroit we have to deal with Sparties. When I was growing up Michigan went to Rose Bowl after Rose Bowl, all the while going on about values and academics. From the perspective of the Perles-era Sparties, whose own program was basically a despicable version of Brady Hoke's, we were insufferable. The Spartan fanbase as a result got VERY sensitive to things like non-alum Michigan fans telling the old "they both got into Michigan State" joke and came up with "Walmart Wolverine."

No good Michigan fan uses that term. The whole concept is ridiculous: Across America, college football programs are the biggest sports team in the state and what outsiders identity it with. Nobody in Ohio would question if it's alright to root for the Bucks if you actually went to truck driving school. The Cornhuskers without the support of the entire state of Nebraska would be in the Mountain West. Notre Dame would have a national following of 150,000 lapse Catholics who came from money. The SEC would be in Division II. The only people who care if you went to the school whose colors you wear are either uber-pretentious, or more likely went to an "other" school that nobody would root for if they didn't have to.

Etc. National college hockey general update.

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CAN I GET A SHIRT IN HERE?

One of our constant complaints under Hoke was the number of redshirt opportunities he missed. Marley Nowell speculated whether Michigan might try to get some shirts on some guys (you don't have to be a freshman to redshirt). I think it's a good question, especially since Michigan could end up graduating more players than we can replace in a couple of years (the roster currently has 26 juniors).

Of course when you get into the candidates there's always reason not to. Gedeon, Canteen, Jenkins-Stone and Dymonte are already on the two-deep; Taco, Lewis and Cole, the running backs and Morris are already starting. That leaves Houma, DaMario, Ways, Watson, and Stribling. If the staff gets a late shirt on any of them it's at least a good sign that they value the future of the program. Doubt it happens.

WHO IS GOLDEN ARM?

A trip back through Bo's Lasting Lessons turned up Bo-bits on Brad Bates, Jim Hackett, Jerry Hanlon, and of course this about Jim Harbaugh:

Jim Harbaugh

"Jim ended up being twice as good, in my book, as the Golden Arm- Harbaugh was the Big Ten MVP his senior year, beating the other guy by a mile- and Jim's teammates liked him. Maybe Harbaugh didn't have half the arm of the Golden Boy, but he had twice the brains and ten times the heart. Give me those specs, anyday."

This sparked a long thread about who this "Golden Boy" was that Bo was talking about. Testaverde? Jeff George? A guy who was on that team said Jim Everitt.

ETC. Slate calls us nerdy. Gary Anderson was frustrated by core requirements. UNC players pushed into paper classes suing for the educations they were supposed to get. Jay Harbaugh asks Twitter if you can own a pet wolverine. Rosenberg gets fisked for inflating deflategate. Bubba Paris' heartfelt call to Michigan fans reposted from Facebook.

Your Moment of Zen:

I remember Charles.

Comments

ak47

January 23rd, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^

Doesn't it make more sense to count how many different QB's from a school played in a superbowl rather than how many each one started?  Obviously makes Michigan look worse but if you are trying to claim to be the cradle of quarterbacks it might help to have sent more than one really good qb to the super bowl.  It is more impressive if 6 different Qb's from a school go to a superbowl than one QB 6 times.

Everyone Murders

January 23rd, 2015 at 1:57 PM ^

 

This sparked a long thread about who this "Golden Boy" was that Bo was talking about. Testaverde? Jeff George? A guy who was on that team said Jim Everitt.

This goes here (which made me a grudging Jim Everett fan):

turd ferguson

January 23rd, 2015 at 2:21 PM ^

From my experience, this - "Ohioans have a Bo-like loyalty that can only come from a fandom borne under siege" - is extremely true.  Men, women, older fans, younger fans.... the M fans down there are committed.

Evil Empire

January 23rd, 2015 at 2:26 PM ^

The lemons-into-lemonade reverse at 3:50 was spectacular.  I believe I was at that game but don't remember anything about it other than my friend's reaction to seeing the Stadium for the first time.

I remember Woodson making a tremendous (!) tackle against Texas A&M in the bowl game his freshman year.  He overran the play, stopped on a dime, lunged backwards, and tripped up the A&M ballcarrier with one hand.  He also left that game with a knee injury and I remember thinking "no no no no no no!"  If that happened today we'd hear all about it, but back then the internet was plain text email and confer groups.  It must have turned out to be minor because I never heard another thing about it and he was back to being himself by the following season.

Unsalted

January 23rd, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^

I'm sure many of you on the board already know this, but it's always a good trivia question at the bar.

Only 4 schools have produced a Super Bowl winning QB and a US President.

They are:

  • Michigan (of course): Tom Brady and Gerald Ford
  • Stanford: John Elway and Herbert Hoover
  • Navy: Roger Staubauch and Jimmy Carter
  • Miami (NTM): Ben Roethlisberger and Benjamin Harrison

Now take this knowledge and win yourself a beer bet.

Mr Miggle

January 23rd, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^

I know you think Watson played in the PSU game. I believe you're mistaken about that. When did Ways play? I'm pretty sure he did not. It's hard to prove my position except to say that Mgoblue makes make no mention of either seeing the field. They do give game by game statistics for everyone on the roster.

MMB T-Sax 9701

January 23rd, 2015 at 5:37 PM ^

Back in the day when I was in the MMB, Spartans would shoot the WalMart Wolverine thing at us (despite the fact that we obviously, you know, actually go to school there), we would shoot back with something about Sam's Club Spartans, because WalMart owns you. Ahh, simpler times.

Low Key Recidivist

January 23rd, 2015 at 5:43 PM ^

Jeff Hostetler was recruited by PSU as a linebacker, but wanted to play QB so went to West Virginia.  Aikman played his last two years at UCLA after starting out at OU (broke his leg his Soph season there after Switzer changed his whole offense to accomodate his talent.).

mgoblue0970

January 24th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^

There will never be another Bob Ufer, but damn if Rich Eisen isn't trying to be a contemporary version... In this day and age, calling Michigan the greatest on national tv and playing The Victors on his radio show... absolute shameless homer and I love every second of it!!!