David Brandon: "I Suggest You Find A New Team" Comment Count

Brian

Ace Anbender contributed to this report.

A few weeks ago, one of our users posted a fuzzy picture of an email purporting to be from one David Brandon:

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We were already trying to confirm or dis-confirm the authenticity of this when Keith Olbermann's show presented it as a fact we're reporting. At that point we had to either confirm it or repudiate it. We've done our best to do so.

We are now reporting this is authentic.

This kind of thing is of course forgeable, but I let it stand because it felt like something Brandon would do. I know this because over the past few years about two dozen people have forwarded me conversations with Brandon ranging from polite enough to the above. 

While the message board thread had a number of details off due to the hand-me-down nature of the information, Ace tracked down the original source of the emails, confirmed his identity over the phone and on Facebook, and got the original. I believe this to be real.

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I asked the hivemind for help with confirming that the email was genuine. What followed was a primer on spoofing that led to one inescapable conclusion: nothing is 100% guaranteed. However, you can look at email headers and GMail histories and rule out all but extremely sophisticated forgeries.

This is where a second emailer comes in. Around the same time Brandon is alleged to have fired off the email above, he shot off another after receiving a short rant about how Al Borges was bad and should feel bad:

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This woman's husband forwarded a much longer exchange with Brandon he had afterward. This ended with the assertion that "you may need more luck than our football team" to deal with his wife.

It also provided a larger body of information to evaluate. I ran it by a couple people intimately familiar with not just email in general but GMail specifically. The results:

The short of it is that the headers check out but there's no way to be 100% sure unless you know for sure the assumptions below are true. The smoking gun is indeed the back and forth GMail thread, that's just not possible unless fabricated by the recipient which we don't think it is (details on why below).

Assumptions

  • Dave Brandon uses a GMail/Google Apps web client (versus say, a desktop client)
  • [email protected] was not hacked and being accessed by an unauthorized third party
  • Neither a 3rd party or the recipients know the specific Google Apps servers for umich.edu's domain
  • The document with the thread between Dave Brandon and the sender was not fabricated

Details

  • The sender's headers appear consistent and indicate authenticity—however, a single email header is insufficient to prove authenticity
  • GMail automatically detects spoofed Gmails and Google Apps addresses—user(s) would have received a warning
  • Replies to spoofed email addresses will go to the real email address—the sender's emails were getting to [email protected] and being responded to.
  • GMail uses signatures in headers to group threads together. Spoofed emails with the same subject aren't put into threads—the back and forth thread is the strongest proof that the emails are authentic. 
  • The back-and-forth thread does not appear to be a forgery—the spacing, elements, and little details (such as "mgoblog.com" being in purple because it's a previously visited address for the user) all seem to check out. 

The longer thread looks authentic beyond reasonable doubt.

    Since the original email is discussed repeatedly in the longer thread, that seems certainly true.
    A second opinion from a professional in the field links the two emails together:

    We have two separate emails that claim to be sent from DB with the same mail server in the header and the same SMTP address. I'm wholly convinced that neither are forged if these are indeed from 2 different people that couldn't have colluded.

    The independent reports I've gotten over the last two years rules out a hack. Dave Brandon has on many, many occasions sent out emails of this nature in his tenure. People have forwarded me nice notes and not-nice notes; it is beyond a reasonable doubt these are authentic.
    Here are more interactions between fans and Dave Brandon provided to me.

"Quit Drinking And Go To Bed"

Another exchange around the time of Brandon's blog in support of Brady Hoke, featuring "quit drinking," class assertions, more ticket threatening.

Dave,

We are sick of all the talk, excuses, and most importantly the losses. You throwing Coach Rodriguez under the bus like you have this week was an embarrassment to the University and more importantly a big cheap shot on all of the players from his classes. Would you classify the game today as "big-boy football?" Would you consider Urban Meyer's offense "big-boy football?" Was that poor excuse of a defense today playing "big-boy football?" Not only was this season an embarrassment to this University, but your conduct over this past week puts a further black eye on this season and has no place at Michigan.  Michigan is now truly a middle of the road Big Ten team and we have you (not Rich Rodriguez) to thank for that.

BRANDON: Quit drinking and go to bed.

Thanks for the classy response. You may have just lost another season ticket holder.

BRANDON: Getting advice from you on what constitutes a classy email is really a joke.

Good luck!

Dave

Dave,

With all due respect, please explain to me what was wrong with my original email? Did I say anything that offended you or that wasn't true?  All I did was reference points that you used in your media tour last week.  When you go out into the public like you did, do you not expect some backlash? To accuse me of drinking is laughable coming from someone in your position. As I have been reading from various writers, I hope you have extreme concern that the 100,000 attendance streak is in real jeopardy. We just want to win and us fans don't necessarily appreciate seeing you on tv and in the newspapers every other day.

BRANDON: I don't believe you know what "due respect" is....

You sent a snarky, negative article at 11:58 PM the night of a very disappointing loss....telling me what "we" are sick of!  I didn't know you had been elected to represent anyone. I don't know who you are....and I really don't care about your views based on "what you read."  And, I don't accept you as a representative of anyone other than yourself.

For you to point out that "we just want to win" is really profound.  Do you think our kids and coaches don't want to win?  Do you think I don't want to win?  Really????

I don't know what you do for a living...but if you want to be an athletic director....go for it.  If you want to be a coach...go for it. 

As it relates to seeing me on TV or in newspapers....I have no idea what you are talking about.  I don't know or care about that stuff....apparently, you do.  You really should get a different hobby!

I will let the ticket office know of your decision to give up your seats.  I am sure we can use your email address to locate your file.  I am sure you will be much happier....because clearly your anger and frustration over our disappointing season has gotten the best of you.

It's too bad...if you got to know our kids and coaches, you would likely enjoy supporting them even when times are tough.  They are quality people who care a lot about Michigan.  Their efforts, sacrifices and commitment goes beyond putting go blue in their email address and pretending to be a loyal fan - they stay positive and continue to fight even when people like you attack them and the outcome of their efforts.

I wish you well....and I hope you find a team to support that wins every game and every season is a complete success.   

Dave

"I Am Sorry You Are 'Upset'"

This was posted as a diary in September by the emailer himself over a year after he'd emailed me and asked me to keep the exchange private. This is the key section and is verbatim from the email he provided me in 2013:

[My first name],
I received your message and I am sorry you are "upset" over a noodle.
Clearly, this is a very troubling matter for you.
Perhaps the lesson here is for you to be careful not to believe everything you read. There was an event at the Stadium Friday and this promotional piece was included.  It was removed at the conclusion of the event.
I suggest you relax and enjoy the football game today!
Go Blue!!
Dave

His response:

Dear Mr. Brandon,

Thank you for your timely response. I am not upset about a noodle, however, but about the possibility of advertising in Michigan Stadium on game days now and in the future.

I suggest that you drop the condescending tone.

Go Blue!

Brandon:

Thanks for your very helpful input!!

Much appreciated!!

Dave

"Thank you so very much… incredible insight"

In response to a guy advocating against Les Miles for breaking oversigning rules, eating grass, and clapping annoyingly, ending with

Mr. Brandon likes to refer to Michigan football as a "brand." Though I would strongly suggest he stop using this term immediately (academia is not Corporate America, nor is UM football a pizza that tastes like cardboard), I'd also implore him to compare Les Miles' behavior with the "brand" he's trying to protect.

Brandon's response:

Mr. Smith,

As you are helping define the difference between academia and Corporate America for President Coleman and me (thank you so very much….incredible insight!) you inaccurately stated my reference to branding at the University.  I have never referred to Michigan Football is a “brand”….because it is not.  I have referred to the “Block M” as a brand….because it is!

Michigan Football is one of the many ways we build our brand at Michigan…as do the rest of our athletic programs, our health system, our academic units, and just about everything else we do at the University.

If this troubles you….I am sorry.  However, it won’t change the fact that our Block M is one of the most recognized global brands in higher education…and I would think anyone with an email address of “UM Alum” would understand the power of that!

Go Blue!  And, thanks for providing your deep research on Coach Miles.

Dave

What about FOIA?

I have been informed that Michigan erases Brandon's email regularly to prevent responsive requests by a person who worked in the athletic department for three years.

A FOIA request for an email sent or received by Dave Brandon would end up going to his secretary. If the date of the email is given, his secretary would not even need to look to see if the email exists. All of Dave Brandon's emails are manually deleted from his university email once they are about one month old. They have been since he started. Since it is done manually, sometimes it's actually a little later, sometimes it is a little sooner, especially if the email is something that may be FOIAed.

But it was explained to me that the whole point is to avoid responding to a FOIA request (like this one). I've been following this email/FOIA issue, and after I spoke with one of my friends in the athletic department, we agreed that we would be shocked if that email still existed in his email, even if it did exist at one time.

This is why a specific request filed by an MGoBlog member turned up nothing. I have two FOIAs in with the department currently, one for six days of mail to and from two email addresses, the other for [email protected] and [email protected] dating back to January 1st of 2013. The department wants to charge me $385 for the first request and $1215 for the second—if those are at all proportional than there's approximately three weeks of email sitting there.

Is this legal? Our local law-talker BISB weighs in:

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If a state employee (such as, for random example, a University Athletic Director) deleted email exchanges, he was probably in violation of Michigan's FOIA law. Emails sent by an employee in the course of his official function are considered public records. The University of Michigan, and its employees, have an affirmative obligation to maintain public records:

MCL 15.233(3): "A public body shall protect public records from loss, unauthorized alteration, mutilation, or destruction."

That duty extends to the individual employees. Intentionally deleting emails as a means of preventing them from being FOIAed would be a violation of MCL 15.240(7):

"If the circuit court determines... that the public body has arbitrarily and capriciously violated this Act by refusal or delay in disclosing or providing copies of a public record, the court shall award, in addition to any actual or compensatory damages, punitive damages in the amount of $500.00 to the person seeking the right to inspect or receive a copy of a public record."

"Capricious and arbitrary" essentially means without cause and in an abuse of power. The University of Michigan is the one subject to the penalty, but the employee is the one who committed the violation.

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Since the punishment is so paltry, Michigan doesn't seem to care.

Documents

The recipients of these emails are private citizens who would like to remain such so I've blacked out their email addresses. All else is as received. There are links to the originals in every section; here they are in a group.

"We will be fine without you"

"Have A Happy Life"

Longer exchange 1

Longer exchange 2

Longer exchange 3

Quit Drinking 1

Quit Drinking 2

Quit Drinking 3

Les Miles

I'm sorry you are 'upset'

Comments

DonAZ

October 28th, 2014 at 3:00 PM ^

Getting to the top level is not for the weak or meek-minded.  It's a cut-throat business, whether a pizza company or a major university.

That kind of environment tends to favor the aggressive.  But aggressive and arrogant are not the same thing.  It is quite possible to be aggressive and maintain professional decorum at the same time.  Some of the most effective leaders I've seen are very measured in their responses. 

That said, the aggressive and arrogant do get through.  They tend to get their come-uppance eventually.  Top-level people have enemies; the good top-level people minimize the ammunition they give to their enemies.

Wendyk5

October 28th, 2014 at 5:58 PM ^

Funny you should say that. I worked for one of the largest advertising agencies in Chicago for years. We were pitching a large national department store chain and the chief creative officer/president of the agency, who was one of the nicest guys I'd ever met in advertising - a real people guy - did one of the most deceitful things I've ever seen to sway the client in our direction. We won the account and I never looked at him the same. And he had built his reputation on being "one of the good ones."

ssuarez

October 28th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

While I totally support this, I can't really help but see the comparisons between this expose and the Freep takedown of rodriguez. Brian has sort of become Mike Rosenberg here. Only differences are that I think 1. It is actually good for the football program. 2. I respect Brian and his work. 3. Brian didn't rush to releasing this immediately. and 4 OK, maybe he isn't like michael rosenberg at all, but there are some parallels. 

bronxblue

October 28th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

it's distressing to see how he responded to these emails. I'm amazed he didn't just ignore them. They are mostly right, but he doesn't need to engage. that said, this really changes nothing about him our the imminent end of his tenure at UM

awould

October 28th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

I sent an email to Bill Martin in 2006 complaining about Lloyd Carr's inability to win the B10 outright, losses to ND/OSU, etc....  His response?

"I appreciate you sharing your views with me. Bill"

Perfectly dismissive yet polite. Brandon sounds like an overly sensitive a**hole.

PeterKlima

October 28th, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^

I am not sure if this was already addressed in the comments, but...

Roast Brandon all you want, but watch out with the "legal analysis" at the bottom.  You say they may have violated FOIA, but that does not seem likely.

There is no duty to maintain public records indefinitely.  You cite that the public body has to protect the documents from loss, but you leave it at that.  They have to be protected.  But, they can be destroyed after a while.  You follow that up with a comment that knowingly destroying to avoid FOIA is illegal, but given the systematic nature of the destruction of such documents, that is nearly impossible to argue.

In Michigan, public records can be destroyed as a matter of policy, as long as it is consistant with the accepted record retention guidelines for such documents.  You may want to look here before lobbing accusations at the school that it is openly flaunting the law:

 

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/hal_mhc_rms_email_faq_161101_7.pdf

 

 

mgochacho

October 28th, 2014 at 2:09 PM ^

He cannot delete emails that are subject to ongoing FOIA requests (just like litigation hold) until it's resolved. I have to wonder if his secretary is aware of this requirement before purging emails.

MAISguy

October 28th, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^

Please take a look at my post entitled, "Former U of M IT Guy's view of things". I don't think Brandon has violated anything myself, unless there is a litigation hold on his email.

BiSB

October 28th, 2014 at 10:16 PM ^

Was that if Brandon is deleting emails for purposes of avoiding FOIA. that's almost certainly a violation of FOIA. We're still looking for UofM's Record Retention policy, but if the suggestion is that Michigan's policy allows him to delete ALL of his sent mail after 30 days, I really find that unlikely.

BiSB

October 28th, 2014 at 10:28 PM ^

That the document you cited is an interpretation from STATE government, which most decidedly does not cover the University of Michigan. State Universities are constitutionally autonomous entities which are in no way affected by statements by the Department of Management and Budget.

And beyond that, that presumes that the POLICY complies with FOIA. A government entity can't hide behind its own non-compliant policy as the basis for its compliance. 

Wave83

October 28th, 2014 at 2:17 PM ^

This simply says that emails may be and should be subject to record retention policies.  There must be a policy and it must be followed.  It points out the distinction between a policy and technology driven erasure, such as where an email program automatically deletes after 90 days.  There must be a policy that is followed, and according to the memo, documents frequently must be retained for a longer period.

Per Brian's report, Brandon only kept his for about 30 days, and it was done manually and therefore was sometimes longer, sometimes shorter.  It was shorter in particular when there was a perceived concern about the content.  

That is not a legitimate document retention policy.  That is a mechanism to destroy public records to avoid discovery.  The deletion needed to be much later (e.g. keep a years' worth, or maybe three) and done automatically (unless there was a hold on documents, such as a litigation hold).  There is no legitimate grounds for hurrying up and deleting some documents because they might be controversial.

I am certainly not an expert on Michigan's FOIA law, but I think the facts alleged/reported by MGoBlog do raise serious issues that should not be dismissed.

PeterKlima

October 28th, 2014 at 2:47 PM ^

You do realize that OPINION about the 30 days quoted in the article is just some "insider gosspi" given to Brian.  It is not the university's retention policy.   I am positive they have a legitimate policy inplace despite what this guy in the Ath. Depart. thinks happens.....

PeterKlima

October 28th, 2014 at 3:46 PM ^

many FOIA requests of entities and discussed the ins and outs of potential defenses to such requests.  All bodies subject to FOIA have a policy on record retention.  Its like me knowing they have a printer at their office.  It is fundamental and standard.  It would be ridiculous to assume otherwise and nothing in Brian's post even implies there is no policy.  he just doesnt know what it is...

Moreover, I know from looking online that the UM has multiple policies on internal documents (Bentley library) and policies on record retention of student records (the policy is available online).  Moreover, they are potentially subject to general policies of the state if they dont have their own.

 

BiSB

October 29th, 2014 at 10:03 AM ^

Check out Section 4.3.1 (page11)

bentley.umich.edu/uarphome/manual/docs/manual.pdf

"1. Specific record groups that should be transferred to the university archives include: (a) the chair's or director's topical file and correspondence"

wolverineesq

October 29th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^

I'm not going to copy it here, but I posted a somewhat lengthy analysis in another thread: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/email-gate-impact-schlissel-and-his-timelin…

Basically, I think it's being presupposed that snarky emails from DB's account are automatically "public records" when that classification is not at all clear. 

The Bentley guide you post isn't clear. Since "correspondence" clearly doesn't mean all correspondence (see section 4.3.2), we need to figure out what the policy is actually intended to cover. Ejusdem generis - a word is known by the company it keeps - can help. "Correspondence" could plausibly be read to only refer to things that relate to the "topical file," which is presumably official business. 

I think it's possible that DB violated FOIA, but this is far from clear. As you are a lawyer, I'm surprised you're so certain about something that hasn't been heavily litigated. 

BiSB

October 29th, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^

4.3.2 lists exceptions, and while none of them seem to apply on their faces, but you could make a potentially colorable argument for some emails. But if (as has been suggested) he deletes ALL of his sent mail, that would almost certainly encompass records that WERE publc records.

I didn't mean to give the impression that every scrap of paper or e-paper that Brandon ever touched would be FOIA-able. If he orders a pizza by email, that's not a public record. You can make an argument that even when Brandon is responding to an email in his capacity as an AD, he is conducting personal correspondence. It'd be an interesting case. But the suggestion here was that a general 30-day deletion period would be fine because it complied with general University record retention policies, which it clearly does not for a department director.

drz1111

October 28th, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^

I'm no AD of a Big 10 university - in fact, I'm really far from it - but my job is mildly visible at a mildly visible institution and sometimes I need to interact with customers, clients or recruits over social media or email.

You never, ever, ever write something like this.

You will see the stupidest, nastiest things written to you.  You cannot respond, because you will get fired.  Everyone is tempted to write back something snarky.  But no one does, because people with power or who have to interact with the public as part of their job generally have good judgment and recognize that the cost of a post like this isn't worth the high five of snarking someone.

Brandon clearly does not have that judgment.  He's not qualified to be the AD.

west2

October 28th, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^

would be for DB to simply come out and respond that these were spoofed or some other explanation.  Since that is not happening obviously then these emails are authentic and/or he feels this type of story is beneath him to respond to.  These emails seem to show that anyone not supporting the current coaches and AD are not a loyal fans and are essentially traitors!?.  We are traitors for wanting to do better or to be the leaders and the best?  You know it was really hard to watch sparty display complete superiority over Michigan this weekend.  You could see on their players faces that they knew who the better team was and so did our players, the game was never in doubt.  Then to make matters worse we had to watch Hoke grovel at Dantonios feet apologizing for stakegate.  What a great moment for Dantonio having accomplished the complete and utter domination of Michigan on and off the field.  I don't recall a period in Michigan's past where the program was in such a complete mess.  Time for the administration to show some leadership & guts and end this chaotic 3-ring circus.

PeterKlima

October 28th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^

If you look past BiSB's first blush at the issue, it is unlikely there was a continuing duty to preserve the documents and it likely did not violate any laws.

 

So, there probably is no reason to look into his contract.

jaspersail

October 28th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^

I've drafted a letter for the Regents:

"Dear David Brandon,

We suggest that you find a new Athletic Department to represent.

We will be fine without you.

Have a happy life..."

 

MAISguy

October 28th, 2014 at 2:12 PM ^

When I stopped working full-time for the University in 2010, I had been working in one of the IT departments that was, at the time, being consolodated into the unit that now oversees most of the computers and users U of M's Ann Arbor campus. At the time, there was no official procedure for deleting emails. Rather, there was a policy in place to help users at all levels archive emails onto their individual workstations so that they were not a burden on the MS Exchange Servers. We recommended a 30 day archiving policy that dumped everything that was older than 30 days into an archive that was still accessible on the machine. The primary reason for this was that each user was granted a rather lowly 500MB of data on the Exchange server, unless they were deemed to be of "VIP" status, in which case, 1GB of data storage was made available.

Deleted emails were another issue entirely. There were server-backups of deleted emails for approximately one week at a time. Thus, if an email was erroneously deleted by a user, we could go to the tape backups and restore that email, or a bunch of emails from around that date via an archiving process. Once the tapes cycled through, which happened approximately once every 7-8 days, the data was overwritten.

By the later months of 2010, much of the Ann Arbor campus had been switched from MS Exchange to Gmail. The result of this was that the storage issues with which we had previously contended were no longer of import. That said, I find it rather difficult to believe that anyone of David Brandon's stature would not have a litigation hold on his email, given his lofty position within the University heirarchy. 

If such a hold does exist, and emails are still being deleted from his account's storage space, then he's in violation of not only FOIA, but could face fairly damaging obstruction issues in court as well.

With all that out of the way, there's still the question of the provenance of the emails in this blog post. Given that Brandon is known to be somewhat cantankerous within his own department, and among his own staff, and has shown himself to be fairly self-aggrandizing in interviews (referrring to himself with "I believe," "my team," and "my position" rather than using "we" and "our"), it does seem in-character for him to be responding as in the emails above, at least to some extent. That said, the issue is, even if the emails DID originate from his account ([email protected]), it's still possible that someone else may have written them. It's common practice for administrative staff to have access to their superiors' email accounts, calendars, and the like. So that adds another wrinkle into th verification process.

I'd want to see the full technically-detailed headers on the original email chain to know for sure though.

In any case, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Michigan supporter who bleeds Maize and Blue, but for the first time in my life, I've been rooting against the Wolverines this football season because of the asinine actions and commentary from the top of the department. I want to see Brandon hit the road,  I want to see Hoke either get his act together or get out too, and I firmly believe that until those two things happen, the sense of honor, community, kinship, and camaraderie that have defined Michigan athletics for more than 130 years will be lost.

 

samdrussBLUE

October 28th, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^

Funny- as a person I like some of the snark from DB in these.  As an AD, probably in bad form.

In addition, there are still many assumptions and lack of/missing information in this article.  Keep on going.

samdrussBLUE

October 28th, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^

Funny- as a person I like some of the snark from DB in these.  As an AD, probably in bad form.

In addition, there are still many assumptions and lack of/missing information in this article.  Keep on going.

Webber's Pimp

October 28th, 2014 at 2:38 PM ^

It's obvious to me now that David Brandon must be fired. But not for the resons others might think. Our fan base is so toxic that certain elements out there will do anything and everything to undermine the current program and the AD. In this case Hoke and Brandon are on the chopping block and our house divided will not stop until Brandon and all others associated with him are no longer a part of Michigan football. The same thing happened with Rich Rod. Rather than support a coach, our coach, a significant number of people decided he did not fit neatly into the "Michigan Man" equation. And so he had to endure all sorts of cirticism (allot of wich was grossly unfair). Rather than fight the tide like Rich Rod did for 3 years only to be unfairly terminated at the end of a 3 or 4 year cycle, we may as well wipe the slate clean and do away with anybody who is a part of the current football program (Freddy J included). That means Brandon has to go. It's the only way to ensure that the next coach will have a fighting chance at Michigan...

P.S. In terms of an offensive system, Michigan had everything it every wanted in coach Rodiguez. And we mucked it up! 

DetroitBlue

October 28th, 2014 at 3:01 PM ^

I agree that RR probably should've been given another year, but it's not like he was setting the world on fire either. I also don't really see the push for Brandon to be fired as equivalent to the circumstances around RR. Since 'practicegate' (which he handled amazingly well), DBs tenure as AD has been 1 failure after another. Just off the top of my head, I can think of the handling of the gibbons allegations, the noodle, general admission student seating, the Shane Morris concussion, raising ticket prices, underachieving football teams, hiring an incompetent football coach, and just general double-talk dishonesty and assholishness. DB isn't getting any sort of a raw deal. He has clearly shown he's not the guy to run the show here.


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