Can you say John L. Smith and Drew Stanton
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
Can you say John L. Smith and Drew Stanton
What did the five fingers say to the face?
Yeah, if Tate and Sheridan both get hurt we've still got Cone and Kennedy behind them, so let's throw Denard in at the slot and see what happens!
I won't be surprised at all to see Denard playing in the slot or occasionally in the backfield as a RB.
However, I seriously doubt he will play any special teams.
Robinson isn't in the same situation as Feagin. Feagin struggled at QB from the beginning and seemed destined for slot as soon as he got on campus. Robinson has already received more praise at QB than Feagin did in his entire Michigan "career."
Yeah, but I heard Feagin could really sling the rock.
that is really really funny lol
Is his a record for post points? ZOMG NIce pad level!!
It's never too soon for a good "Druggie kicked off the team" joke.
Now that's 100% pure colombian awesome.
you want him to take time away from learning the QB position to learn other positions?
"I won't be surprised to see him in other positions"...
...is a long way from...
"I want him to learn other positions."
Wow...so people +1 for Obes misreading my post and then -1 me for correcting him.
Y'all are racist.
...and I agree with him 100%. Denard will stick to QB, regardless of who wins the starting job. Denard will see the field this year. At the very least, expect a Justin Feagin role, but with more snaps (and better execution). I think the best we can hope for is a Tim Tebow like freshman campaign. In the long run, he has the potential to be another Pat White. There is no way they take away from his development at QB.
Obes does know his shit. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying he thought I said that I want to see Denard playing other positions when all I really said was that I wouldn't be surprised if Denard played other positions.
I never had sexual relations with that woman.
I agree, I would love to see them put Denard in motion to the outside and let him blow by a corner like he did in the one camp video.
people, this isn't HS. you can't just throw your backup QBs into other positions, especially when they're true freshmen and don't know the offense fully.
But DROB is at least 70+ when he plays WR in NCAA 10.
A few years down the line, I can see Robinson potentially moving to CB or WR - saying Tate/Gardner pan out to what we expected. But this year, he is likely going to be all QB with maybe some trick plays here and there. He has speed so I am sure the coaches will find a way to utilize him.
If Feagin, as raw as he was, played QB last year, then mark my word, we will see Denard Robinson behind center. That being said, D-Rob is a much more accomplished runner, and is a competent passer. Why people believe he won't play QB this year or why he will switch positions is behind me. Think about it this way....
Would you rather see a white, not quite athletic, redshirt junior QB (who can barely hit the broad side of the barn) on the field or...
Freshman QB with dreads who might be one of the fastest people in the COUNTRY (who can also barely hit the broad side of the barn).
The black quarterback has been burning Michigan for years... now its time for some payback!
(This post has been written by a white guy)
Feagin didn't see the field as a backup to Tate Forcier. He saw the field as a backup to Nick Sheridan and an injured Steve Threet. That's potentially a very large difference.
This is very true... but Forcier is also a true freshman, who has zero game experience and hasn't even been live yet in practice, so we don't know for sure how he will turn out.
Just sayin.... D-Rob more than deserves a shot.
Amazing they're still considered a top 5 team with a true freshman QB...
will be the starter if his injury isn't serious and he was a big time recruit and isn't a freshman. Matt Barkley was maybe the best player in the country last year. Also, Mitch Mustain was a five star recruit, has been in the USC system for a year and has a year of college qb experience.
I don't think you can say that its the same situation. Also, their defense and offense at all their other positions are deeper and better than ours, except at maybe weak side defensive end.
certainly in week 1 of camp and we'll be awfully thin if it doesn't stay that way.
When asked last year if Feagin was ready for serious consideration for quality time, RR chuckled and without hesitation said "No!"
And while Feagin ran a few plays, he did not attempt a pass. Once Threet was hurt, we could use Feagin as an alternative to Cone, and once we burned his RS, then playing a Cone-comparable wasn't exactly a huge risk. (In fact, if it came to it, we might have been better off w/ Carlos Brown under center.)
If D-Rob is #2, then he's one Forcier injury from stepping into the most important role on the team. The value of the QB backup far outweighs the value of a few special teams plays. (See Slappy.)
I don't think D-Rob can do either. Our depth at QB will not allow it. As we saw last year and will learn, if you a have a running QB the chances for injuries increase, therefore you need more than 2 competent QB's to ensure a good season. If Forcier goes down we have D-Rob. We all know what Sheridan is, do any michigan fans feel this guy can get us to a bowl game?
So my point is, I can't see D-Rob redshirting or switching positions until Gardner and Jones come in and that is at the earliest. The only way he switches is assuming he just doesn't fit the mold of a RR QB, which I don't think can be said at this point.
Regardless I look forward to some solid QB competition in the future!!!!
there is no increase in injury rate with mobile QBs
My guess is D-Rob plays second string QB for the next two years and then redshirts and moves to CB for the remainder of his scholarship.
....not only for the excellent research and analysis done on this site which proves you wrong, but for the simple fact that last year proved only that a 6'6" lanky and slow QB will likely get injured if he can't avoid tackles.
A QB who runs a 4.6 40 and is used to avoiding tackles while running around probably has a better chance to avoid said injuries.
Bottom line here: D-Rob will take 5-8 snaps a game, probably at QB. Maybe a trick play or two. I think there are enough talented slot / wrs / rbs on the roster that we can have Denard focus mostly upon being a QB.
But when will he attempt a pass?
He will only play QB. But plays for D-Rob will be different than Tate.
I think DRob will surprise a few people this year. If Forcier stays healthy, RR can play DR 5-10 plays a game and avoid putting him in any situations that expose his weaknesses. I can see DR staying at QB for a couple of years. If it doesn't work out, I can see him playing slot or WR the last two years to get PT and a chance at the NFL, ala Anquain Boldin at FSU.
Is it just me or does DR look really short? Like 5'10" short. There is no way he is 6 feet. Anyways, I cannot remember the last time I watched a Michigan game where a Wolverine player broke a long run. If DR does nothing other than break a 70 yard run I will be happy. I wake up in the middle of the night with Beanie Wells nightmares.
On one of the rare occasions that he wasn't injured, C Brown broke one against the Gophers for 85 yards. I think it was 2007. You may not remember because it was relatively meaningless TD in a 34-10 route.
I miss meaningless TDs in routes...
to watching a rout, but that's just me.
He also broke a 80-yard TD in the spring game, he ran right past Emilien.
you can see a difference of 2 inches in a video? You realize 5'10" is only 2" shy of 6'. You must have some amazing abilities to see that in a video. I'm not saying he is or isn't 6' tall, I'm just saying it is hard to judge from a video. Maybe you have seen him in real life though, in which case....sorry for questioning your height measuring skills....
Just off the top of my head a few plays come to mind. Minor in the tO$U had a 55 or so yard run, in the UMINN game Shaw (IIRC) had a 60 yard run. Mcguffie had about a 35 yard run against ND but I don't know if you would consider that a long run. In 07 you had Hart run a 60 yarder against App State, and then later in that year Manningham had a 93 yard touchdown run against Wiscy.
Minor's long run against OSU was 32 yards. His career long is 46 yards.
As for Manningham's TD against Wisconsin, that was a pass reception.
What do you mean by "long run"? Minor had a 42-yard TD against Purdue, Shaw had a 47-yarder against Minnesota last year. If you're thinking of almost-field-length runs, both Minor and Brown had 80+ yard TDs against Minnesota in 2007.
about Steven Threet? Seems to me he had a 58-yard run against Wisconsin.
And, Feagin had a 34-yard run against Minnesota last year.
Extending to passes, Stonum, 51 yards against Purdue, Odoms, 50 yard bubble pass against Miami (NNTM).
If you're thinking of almost-field-length runs, both Minor and Brown had 80+ yard TDs against Minnesota in 2007.
Brown indeed had an 85-yard TD in that game, but Minor had no carry longer than 46 yards (and that play was not a TD).
That 46-yarder is the longest run of Minor's career. The above poster isn't totally off-base in thinking that we haven't had that many really long runs in recent years. Hart didn't have great breakaway speed and neither does Minor.
"Hart didn't have great breakaway speed and neither does Minor."
You're right on Hart. Minor, not so much. Just because he hasn't had a bunch of 70 yard runs doesn't mean he lacks breakaway speed. We're talking about a guy who's only started four games in his career.
He had a 21 yard TD run against Utah, a 15 yard TD run against Miami, a 9 yard run against ND, a 34 yard TD against Wisconsin, a 6 yard run against Illinois, a 36 yarder vs. PSU, 20 yarder vs. MSU, a 45 yarder vs. Purdue, a 40 yarder against Minnesota, and a 32-yarder against OSU.
Minor's average long run: 23.5 yards (quick mental math).
And even though I included the games against Illinois and ND, he only had 3 carries in each of those games, meaning he didn't have much of a chance to break a long one.
Anyway, you're completely wrong about Minor. He has plenty of breakaway speed.
(Thanks for the correction on the 2007 Minnesota game, though.)
Threet vs. Wisconsin-59 yds
I really have no idea myself and don't necessarily think it would be the greatest move in UM history, but does anyone see him moving to DB this year with the potential lack of depth (if Witty doesn't qualify)?
I think the move of Teric Jones to CB covers the potential lack of Witty. Also, Denard is a playmaker and you want the ball in his hands. You can't get that if you move him to DB. So even if down the live there is a move, I would doubt it's to DB.
He is plain and simple a QB. I love michigan more that anything but if he wanted to be Percy Harvin he would of taken that offer to be Harvin at FLORDIA. I believe that Gardner will RS and you will see D. Rob take some types of snaps for the next 4 Years. I believe that he is fast and athletic enough to play DB, RB, or Slot for any team in the country but here at Michigan he is just a lightning in a bottle QB. Think of D. Rob under center with C. Brown and Minor in the Backfield. D has to play its gaps and if the read is correct there is no stopping it! Forcier will be the starter but D. Rob is going to give opposing D's migrains.
will not play anything other than qb this year. The difference between him and Feagin is that Denard has a much stronger arm.
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Their is no way he moves positions this year, he will be a quarterback. He is faster than Feagin and also can pass better than Feagin. He will get 5 to 10 plays a game to show what he can do.
5 to 10 plays a game is stretching it a bit. Considering an offense averages around 60 snaps a game (I think), I doubt Robinson will get 1/6 snaps.
why do you doubt that. I don't see any reason why he would not get at least that once he learns the offense.
I doubt it because of all the reasons that most people think Tate is the front-runner for the job. Tate was here for spring ball, he's a better passer, he's more accurate, etc. As much as Rodriguez says "I'll play as many people as I can win with," if Tate is the better QB - and he is - then there's no reason to give Robinson 16.5% of the snaps (quick math off the top of my head, but don't hold me to it).
i do think denard will get some snaps, as fast as he is he almost has to. just how many snaps, though, remains to be seen
With our ridiculous overabundance of wide receivers, the ideal situation would be for Denard and Tate to play QB for four years while Gardner takes a redshirt and plays for four years after that.