I dont really understand this comment. Hewlett announced in April that he was attending Michigan as a preferred walkon and is listed as a DB. Not sure how this would be related to a scholarship WR being suspended in August for an incident that supposedly happened in July (both well after it was determined Hewlett was walking on).
Csont'e York Suspended Indefinitely
Sophomore wide receiver in some variety of trouble:
“Csont’e York is suspended indefinitely for failing to meet team standards and will not report for fall camp. We demand that every person in our program represent the University of Michigan and the Michigan football program the right way on and off the field. When people fall short of that, there are consequences.”
Ann Arbor police confirm just-suspended U-M wide receiver Csont'e York is the subject of a police investigation.
— Kyle Feldscher (@Kyle_Feldscher) August 3, 2014
Rumor going around the message boards is that there was a fight of some variety in which a hockey player got hurt—shades of Glenn Winston. But we'll let the legal system play out before making any judgments.
IIRC "not reporting for fall camp" may mean that he's just not going to be a part of the team until a week before the season. The NCAA has a roster limit of 105 for fall camp and then expands that; in the past the occasional player was left off the fall camp roster in favor of a walk-on and that boded very unwell for his future.
York's case is obviously more about discipline than talent. If he does miss the entirety of fall any shot he had at significant playing time is out the door with Funchess, Canteen, Darboh, and Chesson already ahead of him. Even if that suspension gets lifted before the first gameweek he's put himself behind the eight ball in a situation where Michigan has lots of options.
Obviously this should not affect the season unless there's a tidal wave of injuries.
Many walk-ons don't make the 105 man fall camp roster, and wait until the season starts. York being left off of that certainly makes room for one more walk on, so that makes a lot of sense actually.
Thanks...i guess I thought the preferred walkon status got him that spot but it seems your explanation makes sense.
That roster posted today has 109 players on it, including York and Hewlett. The idea might be right, but I think its merely pure coincidence.
It could be a coincidence. But only 105 of those guys can show up to fall camp, so someone will be added to take York's place. It might not be Hewlett (if he was already part of the 105), but that would make sense.
Wasn't it said he was with another football player too when it happened.
Can't football and hockey players in Michigan just get along man?
I do believe this is the 4th football-hockey incident in the last 5 years or so in Michigan (2 each for Michigan and MSU)
What the hell goes down to spark these incidents between hockey/football players?
Plus machismo plus youth/stupidity
I've always assumed it was arguments about what constitutes a "big sport" in the US gone horribly awry.
Like Lloyd said "life is tough when you're stupid."
(also, the sun rises in the East).
I've heard Barry Melrose talk about hockey players that are best buds off the ice but fight each other during a game.
They love to drop gloves and go!
Obviously I'm just another message board guy, but this all went down at Skeeps weekend after 4th of July
Yet another confirmation of ye olde campus adage, "Friends don't let friends go to Skeeps."
Rick's all day
Yes, nothing unseemly ever occurs at Rick's....this reminds me of the classic Simpsons line, "nobody who speaks German could be an evil man".
You're aware that essentially the entire football team is there on Tuesday and Saturday nights in the fall right? Novak, Stu, Nik, Glenn, Mitch, Spike, etc. were/are all regular attendees as well.
Cool, I guess? I don't go to bars to gawk at athletes, but if that's your thing,..
Score keepers, an undergrad bar that seemingly only serves coors light, in pitchers, to frat guys and athletes
IMO Skeeps would be improved if it only served Coors Light in pitchers.
that's an improvement? life is too short to drink major domestics son.
A bar next to the Maynard parking garage.
Wasn't that place called something different (like Dooley's?) when Brian Greise threw a beer pitcher thru the front window in a fight?
That dive has been a trouble-magnet since I was in school...and that's a looong time ago! AC era long. (see "Breaking Away" reference above)
I remember FB players throwing their weight around in there, and the McDonald's nearby, way back in the day.
Madonna worked at the pizza shop inside it once upon a time. Dooley's got shut down for repeatedly getting caught serving minors.
Further "old guy" reminisce: Madonna worked cocktailing at what is now Rick's, then known as the Blue Frog- pure 70s era discoteque, with dance contests and Bee Gees galore!
Of course no one knew who the Hell she was then, but after Holiday came out around '82 suddenly everyone remembered her...
Pretty sure it was Scorekeepers at that point but I could be wrong.
one of the first people hired by Scorekeepers, worked as a cook. Would guess it opened in 1994? 93? Anyway, I graduated in Dec 1994 and it was already open for a couple of years by then for sure.
OK, so I guess I meant "wasn't that called Dooley's way back when I was in school"?!
thanks for the accurate timeline!
It was score keeps by then. I think it changed names during my 1988-93 tenure which was before Griese
i think he also had an altercation at mitch's.
a guy died after someone used a martial arts technique in a fight outside Dooleys, and that's what finally shut it down (under that name).
Scorekeepers used to be Dooleys of days past. It was already Scorekeepers though when Griese got into his little fracas back in the day....and it a chair he threw through the window, not a beer pitcher.
Dooley's had a nice happy hour ...dime hot dogs and $1 beers out of a tall frosted mug. This was before the age of micro brews. Watched many away games there. Football players would frequent after home games in the mid-80s. Watching women react when Harbaugh walked in was amazing.
For the old farts (like me), once upon a time it was Dooley's.
Ten cent beer nights on the weekdays!
I remember that. It was hard to get up in the morning to head to high school.
I remember drinking a few Bahama mama's at dooleys in the 80's. There were a few fights back then also.
Dave Brandon should introduce the 10-cent beer night promo for the next Big House night game. What could possibly go wrong?
I thought it was one day a week. Mondays maybe?
Yes, that was it. "Dime Night". it was on one of the off-nights like Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday.
I don't remember exactly, because ten cent beers.
I think I dated a guy named Yossarian.
He went to Skeeps? Geez, no wonder he was suspended indefinitely.
Oh!? And what have you "heard"? Everyone else on here is just bandying about based on the press release. If you have further insight, please share. Don't just be all coy with your insider info!
That rumour had Sparty hallmarks all over it from the beginning.