Conference Wars 1.9 Comment Count

Alex Cook

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Playoffs?

Now that we’re in November, I finally feel like it’s time to start talking about the CFP – yes, the committee released its rankings last night and yes, they’re predictably valueless, name-brand garbage. Ranking teams based on what they’ve done so far is asinine: the Big 12 still hasn’t played any of its marquee games (a savvy bit of scheduling, at least in terms of valuable late-season exposure, consider Baylor’s three-game stretch of Oklahoma, @ Oklahoma State, and @ TCU in a three week span) and judging teams off an incomplete resume means nothing, especially when each individual result is so crucial.

We should be looking at things differently; the rigidity of traditional rankings doesn’t make sense – it should be a question of “which team will have deserved it?” At this point, it’s impossible to know. Consider some of the games this weekend:

  • Florida State @ Clemson. Both of these teams have dominated the ACC in the recent past – this Atlantic division contest feels like the de facto ACC Championship game and undefeated Clemson’s toughest remaining test.
  • TCU @ Oklahoma State. Neither team has lost, though both have looked plenty suspect on the defensive side of the ball; it’s easily the toughest opponent either team has faced thus far and should provide some clarity atop the Big 12 regardless of who wins.
  • LSU @ Alabama. The most-anticipated SEC contest of the year pits LSU – still undefeated and boasting a complete-looking squad – and Alabama, who would effectively be eliminated from CFP contention with a loss.

It’s not that ranking Alabama fourth overall is nonsensical (I mean, it is nonsensical,* but it doesn’t really matter) – of course, the Tide will have made a compelling case for a bid if they eventually win the SEC. They haven’t done so yet. Necessarily, one of LSU and Alabama will be taking a big hit to its evolving body of work this weekend: if Bama holds serve at home and defeats Leonard Fournette and company (far from a given, seeing as how they’ve lost a home game to a less-than-elite Ole Miss team already), we could be looking at two one-loss SEC West teams at the end of the year; if LSU wins, they’ll be in prime position to run the table the rest of the way… unless they lose to Ole Miss, who still just has one loss in conference play and holds an invaluable tiebreaker over Alabama.

The race for the division title in the SEC West could still go in so many different directions and it’s important to consider that while projecting the playoff race. The committee’s willful choice not to look ahead makes the rankings disingenuous; I get that they’re not in the business of predicting games (and, by extension, not in the business of predicting the playoff) and any discussion of the top four right now – or, even better, “if the season ended today” – pointedly forgets that there’s still much, much more football to be played. There won’t be six undefeated teams between the Big Ten and the Big 12, like there is now. Imagining a reality in which there are is stupid.

*Alabama’s best wins are against Tennessee (4-4, #17 in F/+), Wisconsin (7-2, #23), and Texas A&M (6-2, #26). Georgia (5-3, #45) was ranked eighth in the AP poll when Alabama went into Athens and routed the Bulldogs; we now know that UGA is pretty trash… does the committee think they’re good? Do they think Tennessee’s good? Do they remember that Alabama lost to Ole Miss (7-2, #15)? I mean, a weekly rankings TV show is a shameless ratings grab but still. STILL.

[After the JUMP: actual analysis(!)]

happy dabo

Clemson’s actually maybe the best bet and, no, stop laughing, seriously—

The thing is, since we’re in November and have a fairly decent sample size of results to judge by, we can predict how the conference wars will play themselves out. I’m going to move forward with a couple of assumptions about what I think the committee will do at the end of the day:

  • No mid-major team has a prayer of getting in unless the football gods ratchet the chaos slider up to 10. Sorry Memphis, you’re really fun but life’s not fair.
  • It’s going to be really hard to get two teams from one conference in. As much as the committee (based on its demographics) has a vested interest in maintaining the current hegemony of the Power Five conferences over the Group of Five, so too does it have an obvious inclination to spread bids around between the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and ACC. The Big 12 was thrown into an existential crisis last year when its two co-champions got the short end of the stick; if a team that doesn’t win its conference gets in at the expense of the champions of two different conferences, the push for a change in the playoff structure will be extremely strong – the outcome that the committee would least like to see.
  • Undefeated teams will get in. Florida State was knocked to the #3 seed last year after an underwhelming undefeated season and ACC title, but they got in and it’s really hard to envision a scenario in which an undefeated P5 team misses the playoff – seeding is inconsequential at that point.
  • There’s no precedent on whether a two-loss conference champion would make it in over a different champ with one loss, so we’ll see if the committee’s arbitrary criteria would allow for that to happen. Definitely can’t rule it out at this point.

With those in mind, here’s a rundown of the playoff landscape:

SEC

Undefeated teams: LSU

One-loss teams: Florida, Alabama

Two-loss teams: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Mississippi State

Two SEC West games are critical here: LSU @ Alabama on Saturday, and Ole Miss @ LSU two weeks after that. The possible outcomes there are: LSU winning both, which would likely give them an undefeated regular season; Alabama beating LSU and LSU beating Ole Miss, which would put a one-loss Alabama team in the SEC championship game and position LSU as the one-loss team most likely to get a bid without a conference title; Alabama beating LSU and Ole Miss beating LSU, which would put the three into a tie with no clear tiebreaker. [EDIT: as a few commenters pointed out, Ole Miss would actually win the tiebreaker in this scenario as they would have beaten Alabama and LSU and would hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over both.]

Florida would be a very serious contender if not for the suspension of starting quarterback Will Grier – as it stands right now, the Gators are in pole position to win the SEC East and finish with just one conference loss, but it’s hard to see them beating Florida State and whatever team escapes the SEC West buzzsaw in Atlanta.

Big Ten

Undefeated teams: Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan State

One-loss teams: none

Two-loss teams: Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Northwestern

Magic 8 ball says “ask again later,” but the big remaining games are Michigan State @ Ohio State, Ohio State @ Michigan, and Iowa vs. OSU/MSU/UM in the Big Ten title game. At the risk of being too reductive: if Iowa wins out, they’re in. The East is still too much of a mess to sort out, especially if Ohio State loses to one or both of the Michigan schools. U of M and Penn State are obviously on the outside looking in, but they each just have one conference loss and could make some noise in the event of a random upset or two – remember, OSU and MSU have looked far short of invincible against some shoddy opponents.

Big 12

Undefeated teams: Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma State

One-loss teams: Oklahoma

Two-loss teams: none

The Big 12 is anyone’s guess: all four of the above teams have yet to play each other. November’s gonna be lit.

Pac-12

Undefeated teams: none

One-loss teams: Stanford, Utah

Two-loss teams: UCLA

As a whole, the Pac-12 has underwhelmed this season: USC is the top team according to F/+ (#9), but they have three losses already and have fired their coach – the next highest-rated teams are Stanford (#12), Utah (#18), and 4-4 Washington (#19, whose computer rankings are partially inflated by a 49-3 rout of Arizona).

Still, the Pac-12 South is seemingly Utah’s to lose; they’ve already played USC (and lost), but as long as they don’t trip up against a trio of generally mediocre opponents – Washington, Arizona, and Colorado – a November 21 home game against UCLA could seal a division title and a one-loss regular season. If they lose that game, UCLA becomes the favorite, but they follow up that game with another road contest against USC.

Stanford’s path to the Pac-12 North title and an undefeated conference season is pretty clear, but their home date against Notre Dame to close the season is shaping up to be effectively an elimination game for either one-loss team and the winner would seem to be in pole position for a playoff spot if they take care of the rest of their schedule.

ACC

Undefeated teams: Clemson

One-loss teams: Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina

Two-loss teams: Pittsburgh, Duke

Clemson (yes, that Clemson) is currently the number one team in the CFP and F/+ rankings and may just be the most complete team in college football. What a time to be alive. If we take Dabo Swinney at his word and assume that their Clemsoning days are behind them, the only thing standing between them and an undefeated regular season is this weekend’s game against Florida State at home – and the Noles will be dealing with injuries that kept QB Everett Golson and RB Dalvin Cook out of last week’s game (though both will be back for this week). If FSU pulls the upset, the rivalry game against Florida takes on massive stakes.

The ACC Coastal seems unlikely to produce a playoff contender but hey, look, there’s North Carolina with just one loss and a schedule that’s pretty manageable from here on out. The Heels have really turned it around on defense with new coordinator Gene Chizik and could theoretically make some noise later if they win against Duke this weekend, but UNC still ranks just 34th nationally in F/+ so they’re far from a serious threat to make the playoff. The ACC Coastal is competitive, but still not good, so Clemson can rest easy about a potential ACC Championship game.

As for Notre Dame, they will have compiled a great resume if they win out, but between road games against Pitt and Stanford, the chances of that aren’t great.

Comments

funkywolve

November 4th, 2015 at 4:11 PM ^

If Alabama beats LSU and Ole Miss beats LSU, the SEC West will probably be a two way tie between Bama and Ole Miss with Ole Miss going to the conference championship game since they beat Bama.  LSU would have 2 losses so unless Bama and Ole Miss were to each lose to someone else, there wouldn't be a 3 way tie.

MI Expat NY

November 4th, 2015 at 4:15 PM ^

You have a mistake in the SEC section.  If Alabama and Ole Miss both beat LSU (your third option), Ole Miss wins the west assuming no further upsets.  This also happens to represent the most interesting scenario in the playoff picture.  What happens if a two loss Ole Miss beats Florida in the SECCG?  Do they make the playoffs?  Is the committee really going to keep them out, say in favor of a 1-loss Utah?  Would they be in over an undefeated Memphis? And what about Alabama?  Can Alabama get in at the expense of SEC champion Ole Miss despite head to head results?  Current rankings would seem to indicate yes, but who knows.  

I agree that the committee will loathe to put in two conference mates unless it's absolutely clear they should.  But what if one loss Florida beats Ole Miss in the SECCG with Alabama also at one loss?  

Nickel

November 4th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^

Aside from the fact that it's early and doesn't matter, the Alabama position doesn't bother me.  They beat Georgia when Nick Chubb was still healthy, he's probably the second best RB in the country and he made that an entirely different Georgia team.  They put up 29 first downs to Ole Miss' 16, but it was just one of those games where everything (namely the 5 turnovers) went against them.  They beat that Ole Miss team 4 times out of 5 if not more, and the committee is tasked with selecting the best teams, I doubt many people would pick Ole Miss straight-up against Alabama in a neutral site game. It's still a judgment call, but hardly what I'd call a nonsensical one.

It won't matter though, things will sort themselves out by season's end.

WNY in Savannah

November 4th, 2015 at 10:27 PM ^

The committee claims that previous weeks' rankings have no bearing when they go to rank for the new week.  That's good, since they shouldn't.  But this just emphasizes a fact that irritates me:  there is no reason whatsoever for the committee to do these weekly rankings.  They should do one, and only one, at the end of the season.  Does the NCAA basketball tournament committee meet every week during the season to rank teams?  The only reason they do it in football is, as Alex states, a ratings grab. It's there to get us to look and talk about it.  As a middle aged curmudgeon, this angers me for some reason.  Probably because the idea of young "instant gratification generation" people tuning in to ESPN to watch the "unveiling" of each week's rankings makes me weep for the future, to paraphrase a great movie quote.  They should let the usual polls work during the season and then do their committee ranking at the end only.

Rochester Blue

November 5th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^

SEC Analysis . . .

So if LSU beats Alabama and Ole Miss beats LSU,

AND

Florida loses to either FSU or SC,

then . . . Winner of Ole Miss and Florida gets in, even with 2 losses?  Maybe not.  But, SEC Myth, so probably yes? 

mgoblue98

November 5th, 2015 at 2:50 PM ^

It's time to get the "committee" out of the playoff system.  I wasn't generally in favor of a playoff system because of the ranking and committee system used to pick who gets in.  That's not deciding it on the field.  Conference champions and a couple of wild cards maybe should be in a playoff system similar to the NFL model.

That won't happen because of the bowl game system I suppose.  There are now like 40 bowl games, which means that multiple 5-7 teams are going to be involved.  That is truly a participation trophy.