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Mike Montgomery, Unemployment Eagles

2004 30-2 (17-1), PAC-10 Champs, NCAA 2nd round
2003 24-9 (14-4), NCAA 2nd round
2002 20-12 (12-6), NCAA 2nd round
2001 31-3 (16-2), Pac-10 Champs, NCAA Elite Eight
2000 27-4 (15-3), Pac-10 Champs, NCAA 2nd round
1999 26-7 (15-3), Pac-10 Champs, NCAA 2nd round
1998 30-5 (15-3), Final Four
1997 22-8 (12-6), Sweet 16
1996 21-8 (13-5), NCAA second round
1995 20-9 (10-8), NCAA second round
1994 17-11 (10-8), NIT
1993 7-23 (2-16), no tourney
1992 18-11 (10-8), NCAA 1st round
1991 20-13 (8-10), NIT Champs(!!!)
1990 18-12 (9-9), NIT
1989 26-7 (15-3), NCAA 1st round
1988 21-12 (11-7), NIT
1987 15-13 (9-9)
Inherited Freaking Stanford, which hadn't been to the NCAA tourney since 1942 before his arrival.
PROS
The record above speaks for itself. Turned the most difficult place in the country to admit and keep recruits into a national power. Clean enough that he felt it was his place to call out Billy Donovan for being a dirty cheater. Good God. Look at the record.
CONS
Old now: 60, and had an undistinguished run at Golden State. Presumably accepted the Golden State job only because it was Bay-Area local. He's been there for the past twenty or so years and may be hesitant to uproot whatever family hasn't moved out by now (he is 60, after all). Tournament performance never lived up to regular season levels.
VERDICT
Option A, B, and C, in my opinion. If you can get him, get him. Unlikely, though.

Tubby Smith, Kentucky(?)

2007 22-11, NCAA second round
2006 22-13, NCAA second round
2005 28-6, Elite Eight
2004 27-5, NCAA second round
2003 32-4, Elite Eight
2002 22-10, Sweet 16
2001 24-10, Sweet 16
2000 23-10, NCAA second round
1999 28-9, Elite Eight
1998 35-4, National Champions
1997 24-9, NCAA first round (@ Georgia)
1996 21-10, Sweet 16 (@ Georgia)
Inherited Kentucky, but before that built a program at Tulsa and had those two good years a Georgia.
PROS
Only guy potentially available with one of them national championship thingies. Might be willing to give Joe Crawford a wedgie on his way out of town. A Lloyd Carr-like presence with unquestioned dignity, integrity, and success.
CONS
Lloyd Carr-like failure to satiate the ravenous demands of an occasionally petulant fanbase that expects the moon. National championship has a distinctly Coker whiff to it, as it was in his first year taking over for Rick Pitino and he hasn't approached that level since. (He does have three Elite 8s to his credit.) His ceiling at Michigan has to be lower than his apparent ceiling at UK, doesn't it? Last two years have been Alamo outrages to UK fans.
VERDICT
Last two years raise questions, but had been to the Sweet 16 seven of the ten years before that. No doubt has recruiting connections all over the country, including some inroads in Michigan with Crawford and '08 recruit Draymond Green. Even in these two down years UK has reached the second round of the tournament. Would be a big splash as a name and can evidently coach even without Pitino afterglow: witness that three-year stretch with loss totals of 4, 5, and 6. Those are his kids and his program. A tendency to flame out earlier in the NCAAs than UK fans would like is a small concern, but maybe we can deal with that if we reach 30 wins, yesno?

Only feasible if UK wants to eject the guy. As of now he's the highest paid coach in the country and no doubt has a mountainous buyout. He won't be making the money he is at UK, but he'll also be a god walking amongst mortals instead of one of the most hated men in Kentucky. Smith would be an outstanding option if he comes free.


Lon Kruger, UNLV

2007 30-6 (12-4 MW), awaiting Sweet 16 game versus Oregon
2006 17-13, no tourney
2005 17-14, NIT second round
2000 22-10, NCAA second round (@ Illinois)
1999 (@ Illinois)
1998 23-10, Big Ten Champs, NCAA second round (@ Illinois)
1997 22-10, NCAA second round (@ Illinois)
1996 12-16, no tourney (@ Florida)
1995 17-13, NCAA first round (@ Florida)
1994 29-8, Final Four (@ Florida)
1993 16-12, NIT (@ Florida)
1992 19-14, NIT (@ Florida)
1991 11-17
Earlier Four straight tourney bids as HC @ alma mater Kansas State
Inherited Mostly poo everywhere he's been. Florida had virtually no program. UNLV had gone through 9 coaches in 13 years. Illinois was a decent program under longtime coach Lou Henson but was coming off an NIT bid when Kruger arrived.
PROS
Consistent winner everywhere he's been. Has UNLV in Sweet 16. Took Illinois to the second round three times in four years and established the program Bill Self walked into just in time for it to turn monster. Took Florida to a Final Four. Has a reputation for scrupulous honesty.
CONS
Oldish like all these guys. Rep for honest comes couple with rep for distaste for AAU sleaze factory that is where all blue chippahs come from these days; may have trouble recruiting. Would have to pry him away from UNLV boosters intent on keeping him.
VERDICT
I'd be happy with him but not thrilled.


John Beilein, WVU

2007 24-9 (9-7 BE), NIT
2006 22-11 (11-5 BE), Sweet 16
2005 24-11 (8-8 BE), Elite Eight
2004 17-14 (7-9 BE), NIT
2003 14-15 (5-11 BE), no tourney
2002 22-14, NIT (@ Richmond)
2001 22-7, NIT (@ Richmond)
2000 18-12, no tourney (@ Richmond)
1999 15-12, no tourney (@ Richmond)
1998 23-8, NCAA second round (@ Richmond)
Earlier Cansisus (2 NIT bids, one NCAA)
Inherited A
WVU program with little history. The season before his arrival they were 8-20.
PROS
A ton of experience, as he's been a head coach for almost thirty years. Has revived, or possibly just -vived, the West Virginia program. Coached a guy named "Pitsnogle" who was basically a tatoo-covered Bill Laimbeer. Clean as a whistle.
CONS
Is his crazyass style of play applicable to the highest levels? Beilein, who has toiled for so long at places where a 6'5" guy starts at center, has developed a style suited to those constraints: a 1-3-1 zone on defense and his famous three-mad modified Princeton offense. It's working well enough in the Big East but it seems analagous to Mike Leach's mad scientist bit at Texas Tech. It might be good for pulling up doormats but seems inherently limited at the highest levels.

As noted, Beilein has an enormous 2.5 to 3 million dollar buyout. Could Michigan pay the buyout, pay Amaker's buyout, pay for Beilein, and turn Crisler into something other than a derelict lean-to in the eye of a hurricane of public opinion? Probably not. VERDICT Buyout is prohibitive and the total outlay in that situation is approaching a range in which Montgomery or Smith might perk up. There will be -- already has been -- a lot of talk about him, but I don't see it happening.

BRIEF YEAH, RIGHTS:

  • Tom Crean, Marquette. As mentioned earlier, Crean is the fourth-highest-paid coach in all the land. He'd have to take a paycut to come here. Since Wade left, Marquette has gone to two NITs and gotten booted in the first round two other times. Plus he would commit hari-kiri if he ever beat Izzo. Pure fantasy on the part of Detroit sportswriters.
  • Stan Heath, Arkansas. Leaving aside the MSU stuff, Heath was one SEC tourney run away from getting canned. No thanks. Let's try to find someone who's actually liked by their fanbase... Tubby Smith potentially excluded.
  • Bruce Pearl, Tennessee. 1) probably wouldn't leave, as Tennessee would pony up to keep him, 2) has a mildly skeezy rep, 3) exposure of Illinois cheating somehow makes him a controversial figure instead of, you know, the guys doing the actual cheating.
  • Jamie Dixon, Pitt. Why on earth would he leave Pitt? Michigan would be a lateral move for him.
  • Mark Hughes, Sacramento Kings assistant. A Michigan alum, but no head coaching experience outside of the CBA.

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