Coaching Candidates Part 1: The Power 5 Comment Count

Brian

WELP. When you're a four point dog to Rutgers it's time to start keeping an eye on potential new head coaches.

Pipedreams

Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Kevin Sumlin, and various others are not discussed because you know who those people are and it's unlikely Michigan secures them. They're passed over primarily because they're obviously desirable. You don't need to be told Jim Harbaugh seems like a good idea.

Too old

It's not worth the risk to hire anyone approaching retirement except in very specific circumstances like "this is the only head coach we've ever been any good under"—looking at you, Kansas State. So out go David Cutcliffe (60), Mike Riley (61), Gary Pinkel (62), and, uh, Kirk Ferentz (59), because it would be ULTIMATE MICHIGAN to go after Kirk Ferentz. I'd take Art Briles in a hot second even though he's 58, but he's also lumped in here or pipedreams since he seems impossible to pry out of Waco. 61-year-old Les Miles is also in this group. If he had a time, it was 2007. I'm not saying there's no chance… but there isn't much of one. And you already know all about him anyway.

Gentlemen of note, then.

Power 5 Head Coaches

Look before we name a name you're going to be all like "oh what if Michigan is a poor cultural fit with the spread shouldn't we go get a pro-style guy or something"… there just aren't many to consider. I included the obvious guy.

10987976-large[1]DAN MULLEN, MISSISSIPPI STATE

BASICS: 40-28 in his sixth season in Starkville. SEC record 17-24, which is actually rather good for a Bulldogs head coach. Was Urban Meyer's OC before that, and his QB coach at BGSU and Utah. 42.

PROS: Turned previously inept MSU into decent program. Young. High level experience in recruiting wars and as national-championship-level OC.

CONS: Has acquired a great deal of his wins against tomato-can laden nonconference schedule and still struggles to win half his SEC games. Reaction to recent suspension of starting OL for multiple in-game stomping incidents was from the Dave Brandon school of PR.

OVERALL: Desirability on a knife edge right now. If he follows up LSU win with season that sees Mississippi State end up a solid top 25 program he will be a hot name. Slip down to the 7/8 win level he's been at and it's questionable.

 

 

Mike-Gundy[1]MIKE GUNDY, OKLAHOMA STATE

BASICS: Is a man. Is 47. In his tenth season at Okie State, 80-39 record with one Big Twelve championship and Fiesta Bowl win; two other ten-win seasons. Before that was Les Miles's OC.

PROS: Good coach who can insert any sentient being at quarterback and see that guy/spaceplant pass for 300 yards. Young for a guy with a decade as a head coach. Knows what he wants his program to be.

CONS: Availability questionable. Is currently at alma mater and has T. Boone backing him. Last time Michigan pried a dude away from his alma mater things went poorly, partially because of the reputation a man acquires when he leaves his home base. May not have left Oklahoma except for road games in 30 years.

OVERALL: If you can get him, hell yes. Probably can't get him.

[After THE JUMP: the last manball unicorn]

TODD GRAHAM, ARIZONA STATE

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BASICS: Been a head coach since 2006 at four different stops including one-year stints at Rice and Pitt. Had three ten-win seasons with Tulsa, guided ASU to a 10-4 season with an 8-1 Pac 12 record last year. 21-10 so far in his career. Before that was the DC at Tulsa. 49.

PROS: Successful everywhere he's been that he was at for more than a year. Despite defensive orientation, runs effective, high tempo offenses.

CONS: Wears Britney Spears mic on sidelines. Inveterate job-hopper. Bad haircut.

OVERALL: Bo would die again if Michigan had a guy with that mic.

628x471[1]DAVID SHAW, STANFORD

BASICS: 37-8 in three years as Stanford's head coach with three BCS appearances. was Harbaugh's OC for four years prior to that and his WR/QB coach at San Diego. Before that was an NFL assistant with the Raiders and Ravens. 42. Seems poachable what with Stanford's attendance struggles and his relatively modest salary.

PROS: The last manball unicorn. Literally the only successful pro-style college head coach who might be available. Great record, has plenty of experience coping with spread offenses, and in year four concerns that he's just riding Harbaugh's coattails are minimal. Operates in high academic environment; already proficient at selling the kind of guys who want to go to Michigan.

CONS: Punted from his own 29 in the midst of dominating USC and still losing to them, a Lloyd Carr callback I would prefer not to relive. Stanford alum experiencing great success at his alma mater, remember last time we poached guy from alma mater, etc.

OVERALL: Despite the punting thing and the boggling USC loss would be a hire that checks every last box. I'd live with the offense, assuming he could in fact implement it.

 

20ee92f8b9b904d9835584952a5e411e[1]BUTCH JONES, TENNESSEE

BASICS: Took over for Brian Kelly when he left CMU for Cincinnati, then took over for Brian Kelly when he left Cincinnati for Notre Dame. Improved both of those programs, with CMU having an undefeated MAC season en route to a 11-2 record and taking Cincinnati to two Big East Championships. 5-7 in his first year at Tennessee, currently 2-2. 46.

PROS: Age. Michigan native. Good amount of experience at places that are not naturally successful. Seems to have made Tennessee a lot better this year—they just about beat Georgia.

CONS: RR/Kelly associations may poison well both ways. Leaving Tennessee after two years would be a hard sell. Vols could match any offer.

OVERALL: If he is amenable to courting, I would court. Relying on M's historical place in the firmament over Tennessee's somewhat more dubious place in the cutthroat SEC to do so.

Kevin-Wilson[1]KEVIN WILSON, INDIANA

BASICS: Longtime OC at Miami (Not That Miami), Northwestern, and Oklahoma got the Indiana job in 2011. After 1-11 opener has turned IU into a chaos team that can win or lose any game with their lightning speed offense and horrendous defense. 52.

PROS: Indiana's offense.

CONS: Indiana's defense.

OVERALL: I'm not seeing it. Offense is pretty gimmicky, hasn't actually gotten to a bowl game. While I'm usually skeptical of arguments that the things that happen when your defense is off the field have a major impact on it, the extreme tempo that Indiana uses to be competitive is an exception.

OTHERS

NW's Pat Fitzgerald seemed more attractive four years ago. So did TCU's Gary Patterson. If Paul Chryst could actually put together a nice season for Pitt he'd be a guy to look at, but he hasn't so far. Randy Edsall might not be the worst idea in the world and how depressing is that? Al Golden might get sick of Miami, but his tenure so far isn't amazing. If Gary Andersen's amenable I'm interested; don't think that's likely. Oregon's Mark Helfrich is only paid 1.8 million dollars so Michigan could sniff around to secure him a nice raise. Bret Bielema… nevermind.

*shudders*

Comments

ca_prophet

October 1st, 2014 at 3:05 PM ^

... in that we might hire an AD who the President asks to get costs under control, or the President might keep Brandon but tell him to shrink the AD's personnel budget.

Given that the last week hasn't exactly endeared the Department to the President, I think it's more likely than not that our AD's hands will be tied on that issue.

I agree that if our hands aren't tied, our options expand - some people will be swayed by more money, and we'll want some of them; hopefully the intersection of those groups is not empty.

 

Voltron is Handsome

October 1st, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^

To me, the only good options are (in order) Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, David Shaw, Les Miles, and Kevin Sumlin.

delmarblue

October 1st, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^

This makes me sad in terms of options and liklihood.  Let's look to the NFL, ala Jim Mora, either assistants or past head coaches. UCLA people were underwhelmed with Mora's hire (as were USC with Carroll).  Now they couldn't be happier.

michgoblue

October 1st, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^

Fortunately, this list is just a partial list, as it only includes Power 5 guys.  I assume that Brian will put out a similar list of non-Power 5 guys and NFL guys.

Personally, the only one on this entire list that I would be excited about is Shaw, and even he isn't a home run. 

Is it delusional that I am still hoping for a Harbaugh or Les Miles?

Bob The Wonder Dog

October 1st, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^

1. We need an HC that pays equal attention to offense and defense.

2. We need someone who can tailor their schemes to work with the players we have. This fan base will not tolerate a lengthy rebuilding transition.

3. We need someone who fits in with the culture of the university, and will recruit players that can succeed at the university.

4. We need someone with the political savvy to deal with all of the nonsense Michigan football brings.

5. We need someone who will select his coordinators and assistant coaches based upon their results and not because of personal relationships.

Perkis-Size Me

October 1st, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^

If typical home run options aren't available, nor are the likes of Butch Jones (which I think prying him from Tennessee would be hilarious considering the fact that they've held a grudge against us for years over the Manning not winning the Heisman), what do people think about Craig Bohl? I've thrown his name around a couple of times, and I know he's a bit of a no-name, but it's not like that hasn't worked before. Our neighbors to the south tried that with a certain guy named Tressel, and I'd say that worked out for them nicely.

His resume is pretty darn impressive, even if just at the FCS level. 3 straight national championships, and even though he's currently at Wyoming, his old team is primed to run away with a 4th one. Winning a national title at any level is difficult, but 3 in a row? Come on, I don't care what level you're at: that's some damn good coaching, especially when you're trying to lure kids out to frickin North Dakota. One could make the argument that his resume is just as impressive, if not more impressive than Saban's.

He is the definition of a winner, and while he hasn't had to really ever deal with the pressure and expectations of being at a big program, he could be the guy that turns us around. I'm thinking he would jump at the chance to come here and prove himself at a high level.

He's a backup option, but he's not a bad one by any stretch.

Nobody Likes a…

October 1st, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^

Shaw gets my vote every time. It isn't the manball stuff at all though his defenses producing guys like the Skov brothers, Ben Gardner, Trent Murphy and Josh Mauro.  Watch the party in the backfield they had going last year against Oregon, that was absolutely inspired and fun to watch.

Hannibal.

October 1st, 2014 at 12:49 PM ^

I have thought Shaw was questionable up until recently.  In year 4, I think that you can claim the team's success as your own, even if you inherited an elite team.  The way that his defenses overachieve is ridiculous.  Offense is a perfect fit.  Puntasaurus-ing is a concern but one that I'll grudgingly live with. 

JFW

October 1st, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^

in the pipe dream category, unfortunately. Knight will make sure Oregon keeps its own. And why leave success to go to a tire fire, with recruits set up for a pro set? 

 

Sorry to be Donnie Downer. 

KWBlue

October 1st, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mark Stoops from Kentucky.

Stoops brother pedigree, turned around FSU's defense under Jimbo Fisher, runs an up-tempo, spead offense at Kentucky. I'm sure he'd be willing to leave an SEC bottom-feeder for Michigan. Oh, and he just destroyed the B1G in recruiting last year. He's young and offers some very high upside IMO. 

JFW

October 1st, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^

I mean, Stanford, Tennessee, etc. can all pretty much match our money. I'd love to think we could, but... could we? I think to do that we'd have to have our AD and President and maybe some other major coaches at the University help make the pitch. I don't know that we have that unity right now. 

 

I will admit, there is a certain amount of 'looking at the Sears Wishbook' feeling to looking at some of these coaches...

An Angelo's Addict

October 1st, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^

I would love Art Briles, or even Kevin Wilson seems kinda fun at this point. I just feel like watching a fun offense again and have a good defense to boot would be nice. How many times did we see receivers wide open during the RR offense? How often do you see that now? Those offenses are just a ton of fun to watch

Tanner

October 1st, 2014 at 12:13 PM ^

He's pretty young, he's got the B1G connection, he's had a lot of success as a coordinator. He's worked with completely different quarterbacks in Favre and Wilson. He's not a jerk. He seems like a realistic candidate. I think he would be a very solid hire.

UMaD

October 1st, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^

  • Too old - If Michigan can have someone, anyone, come in and stabalize this program it would take it.  For 6 years, 5 years, 4 - doesn't matter.  We don't need a guy who can coach for 15-20 years, we need a guy who can coach for ANY years.
  • Pipedream Dichotomy - Most of the guys listed are pipedreams.  You can throw Shaw right in with Sumlin and the Harbaughs. Get real. Slightly less delusional are Gundy and Jones and Mullen, but they will use Michigan to leverage cash and then stay where they are because where they are is a better situation than the toxic Michigan atmosphere.  Mullen MIGHT leave if he wants to go at Meyer, I guess, but why deal with the struggle.  Wilson's a realistic get, but ultimately a poor-man's Rich Rodriguez.
  • Les Miles - more realistic than these other guys.  I don't want him either, but if Brandon's gone he'll be an obvious candidate to the next AD.

This is more a list of "who I want, by Brian" than a realistic list of candidates.  Which is fine, but potentially confusing to a lot of people given it doesn't acknowledge it is what it is.  Brian has a track record of innacuracy on this front, famously stating "the chance Brady Hoke is Michigan's coach in 2011 is zero point zero percent."

I look forward to reading more, but everyone should take this FWIW.

WolvinLA2

October 1st, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

Mullen would leave.  He can field the same exact squad, but got 10-2 in the Big Ten instead of 7-5 or 8-4 in the SEC, and get paid for doing it.  Plus, he can probably field a better squad because he wouldn't have to settle for only southern kids the big boys didn't want.  He can grab some southern kids the big boys do want, plus kids from all over the country who always consider playing at Michigan.  

EDIT:  And it's not like Mullen is a Southerner either, which would make him a tough pull.  He's from the East Coast and has Midwest ties having coached at ND and BGSU (and he played his college ball in PA). So it's not exactly foreign territory for him.  

UMaD

October 1st, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^

  • It is far easier to recruit in the SEC. You can put forth 30% of the effort and get 80% of the results.
  • It is far easier to deal with the media and fans.  They support the program.
  • The two bullets above lets you focus on coaching football.
  • Mullen has been coaching in the south for a long time (as Brian pointed out already.) It matters zero where he was born.
  • There is no indication he would be able to go 10-2 in the Big Ten. Mullen has had his share of struggles at MSU. 

WolvinLA2

October 1st, 2014 at 1:56 PM ^

Recruiting at Michigan is easier than recruiting at Mississippi St.  You are no one's first choice there, even when the team is winning.  In his time at MSU, Mullen has brought in around 3-4 4+ star players per year.  It would not be hard to do better than that here.

Yes, dealing with the media is easier there than here.  

Sure, Mullen has been in the South for a decade now, but my point was that pulling him North isn't taking him away from his roots.  It certainly matters where he was born.  That doesn't mean he wants to leave the South, but someone from the North is more willing to come here than someone who wasn't.

I'm not saying he would for sure go 10-2 in the Big Ten.  But what I'm suggesting are that his teams that went 7-5 or 8-4 in the SEC would have gone 10-2.  

I like Mullen as a candidate in the event the Harbaughs or Miles don't come.  I think he's the best option of the ones presented above.

UMaD

October 1st, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^

No, it's not.  It doesn't matter if you're first choice or eight, it's about the quality of player you get and the level of effort to get him.  Benefit vs cost. You can point to all the recruiting rankings you want, but Michigan has not gotten results. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's the players, maybe it's something else.  Whatever it is, Michigan coaches have to fly all over the country an get their butts kicked by OSU and ND in the midwest. Miss St can pluck a 3 star kid who lives breathes and eats football out of Texas or Georgia and live happily ever after.  Michigan may be better off, but they have to work HARD to get there.

Mullen has an SEC job. If he succeeds there he will get paid there. There's no convincing argument for him to leave.  Prestige? He coaches in the SEC.  Money? He coaches in the SEC.  Difficulty? coaching at Michigan is far from a picnic.  Proximity to talent? check. Loyalty and fame forever if he wins?  check.

"someone from the North is more willing to come here than someone who wasn't."  maybe maybe not.  He has no ties to Michigan and his ties to the region are very weak.  You're getting into "his wife went to X college nearby" territory with Mullen. i.e., grasping at straws.  I am sure that where he was born plays zero into his decision.

The SEC teams would dominate the Big10 team argument is terrible. His 2012 team lost to Northwestern in it's bowl game.  But if you do want to pursue it, the reason would be because they are SEC teams, with SEC talent, SEC support, SEC um 'resources'. 

This is the same as the Les MIles discussion - he doesn't bring the program with him.

Mullen is pretty mediocre IMO. His SEC record has not moved. 3-5 his first year, 3-5 last.  Two 4-4 seasons and a 2-6 season in between. You want to be 'little brother' to OSU - he's your man. [Save us both the trouble of making a Bo comparison. zzzz ]

Mo Better Blues

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:33 AM ^

While new to commenting, I was lurkin' like a panel truck with free candy through the 2010 search and I'll grant you--Brian was, indeed, not particularly accurate with the prohibitive language about Hoke's hiring, which had the effect of absolutely breaking my heart when it was announced...and then I was totally on-board after just one press conference from dude because he thought we were pretty. (Michigan Kool-Ade tastes great. Wish I had some. Can't wait.)

That said, the blog and many in the commentariat have been almost sickeningly prescient on any number of things that have bubbled to the surface for all to see lately, (Hoke's haphazard--some would rightly say downright poor--handling of player injuries and reports pertaining to player injuries, the lack of in-game awareness and communications on-field (the headset issue), as well as the punting formation woes, as well as the tempo problems, etc. etc.).

All this suggests to me--with MGoBlog being of singular quality assessing and diagnosing problems with the program and suggesting effective remedies, yet being incongruously inaccurate on the coaching searches--is that Brian and this blog should probably handle the coaching searches, too. 

Saluki

October 1st, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^

I would go after Jerry Kill before Kevin Wilson.  Health issues aside, he has been succesful everywhere despite the health issues.  SIU and NIU were not fluke turnarounds, and unlike the current situation, Kill has a track record of getting the most out of his players.  He is probably too loyal to MN for giving him his first "big time" shot though.

As for most of the rest, if we want to talk about things that aren't happening, why not Dantonio!!! or even Pat Narduzzi.  Now those are names that could increase the drama above its current level.

ST3

October 1st, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

I agree with Kill over Wilson. I also think he'd stay at Minnesota, for loyalty, yes, but he's arguably got a better situation there. Out of the spotlight, in the easier half of the B1G. But I wouldn't go after Claeys because of the risk of moving a co-ordinator up to head coach. So in my opinion, we're looking at someone between Kill and Claeys as our next coach. I mentioned Narduzzi last year. He might hate Michigan now, but I can see him battling Dantonio every year as part of some gentlemen's thing. But how that would suck, to be co-opted by State and have our program follow their blueprint.

kevin holt

October 1st, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^

No comment on coaching candidates, but when I see "The Power 5" I always think it's the 4th sequel of The Power. I've always wanted to date a girl named... The Power

ST3

October 1st, 2014 at 12:23 PM ^

There's a Power 5 conference coach with this resume (years coached, conference, wins  by year)

94-98, MIFC (whatever that is) 6, 7, 7, 9, and 9 wins, 38-14 record. OK, he built something and sustained it. Time to move up a level.

99-00, MAIAA, 5 and 6 wins, just a pit stop, on to bigger things

01-07, GFC, 1, 4, 10, 10, 9, 9, 12, 55-32 record, again, built something - this time from ground zero, and built it up into a perennial playoff team.

08-10, MAC, 6, 7, 10, 23-16 record, again showing continued improvement year-over-year

11-14, B1G, 3, 6, 8, currently stands at 4-1 after kicking Michigan's ass with Manball personified (David Cobb.) His 2013 team went into Spartan Stadium and gave MSU one of their toughest tests all year, especially considering that was at State.

OK, I understand he has health issues and zero personality, but he would have been a better pick than Hoke based on resume back in '11. He's still better than Hoke as the past 3.5 years have proven. But he looks funny, so I'll withdraw my nomination. My point is, I don't care about Michigan Man-ness, or style of play, or personality. I care about winning. I care about building a program and sustaining the program. And that goofy m-f'er has shown an ability to do that at stop after stop.

turd ferguson

October 1st, 2014 at 12:36 PM ^

It wouldn't surprise me if a pipe dream guy or two would be willing to come, even if no one here is thinking about the guy right now.  Rodriguez absolutely was that in 2007 and he wouldn't have appeared on anyone's list of possibilities until days before he was hired (nor would Mattison or Nussmeier appeared on anyone's list).  Plus, WVU's 2007 season solidified his status as a pipe dream coach, so there's still time for candidates' profiles to change before a likely offseason hire.

In a post-DB world, this is a better job than some here are saying (lots of talent, excellent facilities and resources, no recent history of success, etc.), and there are probably a couple of A-level guys out there who are unhappy where they are, ready for a change, or curious about the Michigan job.  At the end of the day, it just takes one of those guys to say yes.

Soulfire21

October 1st, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

I know the chances are infinitesimal, but what if Hoke finishes the year with a 7-1 or 6-2 conference record?  Does he still go?

Not suggesting either way, just guaging others' thoughts.

Otisthebigdog

October 1st, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^

 I compare our situation to Alabama when Gene Stallings retired. Just like Lloyd Carr he had won a NC but no one begged him to stay. They then floundered through Mike DuBose, Mike Price, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula before finally going after and getting Saban. I think Jim Harbaugh is the best coach out there right now. He would win immediately. He might wear out his welcome in a few years but so what. Show Him The Money!!!!!!

Hannibal.

October 1st, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^

The real question that you should be asking is how the $150 million that we are going to be spending on non-revenue facilities is going to affect us dumping piles of cash in Harbaugh's driveway. 

Or anyone else's driveway, for that matter

DCmissingAnnArbor

October 1st, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^

Definitely count me as a "thanks but no thanks" on Mike Gundy. I would rather have Dave Brandon himself coach the team! But don't take my word for it, just take a look on the interwebs about the scandalous behavior of the football program.

SysMark

October 1st, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

I'm in the camp that sees no risk in giving Nuss a chance right now.  The impact on recruiting is already done as everyone assumes Hoke won't be back next year.  I do think Hoke is a very loyal and ethical person who loves Michigan and would do whatever he could to hold the recruiting class together regardless of what happens.  Maybe there's a place for him.

Blue Balls Afire

October 1st, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^

I'm sticking with my Teryl Austin suggestion.  I think he'd be great.  He's working wonders with a Lions' D that has underachieved for years, getting the most out of his all-star linemen and turning practice squad guys into a servicable unit in the secondary.  Also, he's worked with Mattison (I believe) so I think Mattison might stay as D-coordinator, which I would like to have happen.  Austin is also a defensive backs coach and could coach the position hands-on.  With spread offenses in college, having a sound secondary is that much more important.  I think some guy in Alabama is also a head coach and defensive backs coach for his team.  I think he's doing okay.

Ed Shuttlesworth

October 1st, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^

David Shaw would be my #1 choice after the Harbaughs.  Stanford is basically the Michigan of the West and he has them humming academically and on the field -- where they play "manball" better than anyone else.    He'd also be less drama than either Harbaugh.