Coaching Candidates Part 1: The Power 5 Comment Count

Brian

WELP. When you're a four point dog to Rutgers it's time to start keeping an eye on potential new head coaches.

Pipedreams

Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Kevin Sumlin, and various others are not discussed because you know who those people are and it's unlikely Michigan secures them. They're passed over primarily because they're obviously desirable. You don't need to be told Jim Harbaugh seems like a good idea.

Too old

It's not worth the risk to hire anyone approaching retirement except in very specific circumstances like "this is the only head coach we've ever been any good under"—looking at you, Kansas State. So out go David Cutcliffe (60), Mike Riley (61), Gary Pinkel (62), and, uh, Kirk Ferentz (59), because it would be ULTIMATE MICHIGAN to go after Kirk Ferentz. I'd take Art Briles in a hot second even though he's 58, but he's also lumped in here or pipedreams since he seems impossible to pry out of Waco. 61-year-old Les Miles is also in this group. If he had a time, it was 2007. I'm not saying there's no chance… but there isn't much of one. And you already know all about him anyway.

Gentlemen of note, then.

Power 5 Head Coaches

Look before we name a name you're going to be all like "oh what if Michigan is a poor cultural fit with the spread shouldn't we go get a pro-style guy or something"… there just aren't many to consider. I included the obvious guy.

10987976-large[1]DAN MULLEN, MISSISSIPPI STATE

BASICS: 40-28 in his sixth season in Starkville. SEC record 17-24, which is actually rather good for a Bulldogs head coach. Was Urban Meyer's OC before that, and his QB coach at BGSU and Utah. 42.

PROS: Turned previously inept MSU into decent program. Young. High level experience in recruiting wars and as national-championship-level OC.

CONS: Has acquired a great deal of his wins against tomato-can laden nonconference schedule and still struggles to win half his SEC games. Reaction to recent suspension of starting OL for multiple in-game stomping incidents was from the Dave Brandon school of PR.

OVERALL: Desirability on a knife edge right now. If he follows up LSU win with season that sees Mississippi State end up a solid top 25 program he will be a hot name. Slip down to the 7/8 win level he's been at and it's questionable.

 

 

Mike-Gundy[1]MIKE GUNDY, OKLAHOMA STATE

BASICS: Is a man. Is 47. In his tenth season at Okie State, 80-39 record with one Big Twelve championship and Fiesta Bowl win; two other ten-win seasons. Before that was Les Miles's OC.

PROS: Good coach who can insert any sentient being at quarterback and see that guy/spaceplant pass for 300 yards. Young for a guy with a decade as a head coach. Knows what he wants his program to be.

CONS: Availability questionable. Is currently at alma mater and has T. Boone backing him. Last time Michigan pried a dude away from his alma mater things went poorly, partially because of the reputation a man acquires when he leaves his home base. May not have left Oklahoma except for road games in 30 years.

OVERALL: If you can get him, hell yes. Probably can't get him.

[After THE JUMP: the last manball unicorn]

TODD GRAHAM, ARIZONA STATE

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BASICS: Been a head coach since 2006 at four different stops including one-year stints at Rice and Pitt. Had three ten-win seasons with Tulsa, guided ASU to a 10-4 season with an 8-1 Pac 12 record last year. 21-10 so far in his career. Before that was the DC at Tulsa. 49.

PROS: Successful everywhere he's been that he was at for more than a year. Despite defensive orientation, runs effective, high tempo offenses.

CONS: Wears Britney Spears mic on sidelines. Inveterate job-hopper. Bad haircut.

OVERALL: Bo would die again if Michigan had a guy with that mic.

628x471[1]DAVID SHAW, STANFORD

BASICS: 37-8 in three years as Stanford's head coach with three BCS appearances. was Harbaugh's OC for four years prior to that and his WR/QB coach at San Diego. Before that was an NFL assistant with the Raiders and Ravens. 42. Seems poachable what with Stanford's attendance struggles and his relatively modest salary.

PROS: The last manball unicorn. Literally the only successful pro-style college head coach who might be available. Great record, has plenty of experience coping with spread offenses, and in year four concerns that he's just riding Harbaugh's coattails are minimal. Operates in high academic environment; already proficient at selling the kind of guys who want to go to Michigan.

CONS: Punted from his own 29 in the midst of dominating USC and still losing to them, a Lloyd Carr callback I would prefer not to relive. Stanford alum experiencing great success at his alma mater, remember last time we poached guy from alma mater, etc.

OVERALL: Despite the punting thing and the boggling USC loss would be a hire that checks every last box. I'd live with the offense, assuming he could in fact implement it.

 

20ee92f8b9b904d9835584952a5e411e[1]BUTCH JONES, TENNESSEE

BASICS: Took over for Brian Kelly when he left CMU for Cincinnati, then took over for Brian Kelly when he left Cincinnati for Notre Dame. Improved both of those programs, with CMU having an undefeated MAC season en route to a 11-2 record and taking Cincinnati to two Big East Championships. 5-7 in his first year at Tennessee, currently 2-2. 46.

PROS: Age. Michigan native. Good amount of experience at places that are not naturally successful. Seems to have made Tennessee a lot better this year—they just about beat Georgia.

CONS: RR/Kelly associations may poison well both ways. Leaving Tennessee after two years would be a hard sell. Vols could match any offer.

OVERALL: If he is amenable to courting, I would court. Relying on M's historical place in the firmament over Tennessee's somewhat more dubious place in the cutthroat SEC to do so.

Kevin-Wilson[1]KEVIN WILSON, INDIANA

BASICS: Longtime OC at Miami (Not That Miami), Northwestern, and Oklahoma got the Indiana job in 2011. After 1-11 opener has turned IU into a chaos team that can win or lose any game with their lightning speed offense and horrendous defense. 52.

PROS: Indiana's offense.

CONS: Indiana's defense.

OVERALL: I'm not seeing it. Offense is pretty gimmicky, hasn't actually gotten to a bowl game. While I'm usually skeptical of arguments that the things that happen when your defense is off the field have a major impact on it, the extreme tempo that Indiana uses to be competitive is an exception.

OTHERS

NW's Pat Fitzgerald seemed more attractive four years ago. So did TCU's Gary Patterson. If Paul Chryst could actually put together a nice season for Pitt he'd be a guy to look at, but he hasn't so far. Randy Edsall might not be the worst idea in the world and how depressing is that? Al Golden might get sick of Miami, but his tenure so far isn't amazing. If Gary Andersen's amenable I'm interested; don't think that's likely. Oregon's Mark Helfrich is only paid 1.8 million dollars so Michigan could sniff around to secure him a nice raise. Bret Bielema… nevermind.

*shudders*

Comments

In reply to by MarcusBrooks

Michigan4Life

October 1st, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^

and he can do whatever the hell he wants to do. It's his opinion and does not affect the school at all. Only the President and regents (and Dave Brandon if he's still there) have the power to run the coaching search. 

Beside, Hoke is a dead man walking regardless of the result of the team this season.

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^

Just because something CAN be written doesn't mean it should.

Brian has a lot of influence as the owner/editor/creator of the largest college sports website on the internet. If he starts looking at new coaching candidates, other bloggers, fans, prognosticators, analysts, networks, etc. will, too. Then the calls for Hoke's head will amplify, the distractions to the team will amplify, etc. I don't think we should underestimate the ripple effect that Brian can have.

As such, I'm a wee bit disappointed in Brian's various campaigns and statements about not going to the game, essentially trying to ruin Michigan's streak of 100,000+ fans, etc. Trying to save Michigan tradition by ruining Michigan tradition is not a quality plan, in my opinion. It's a bit too self-serving. 

If "The team, the team, the team" is going to be our motto around Michigan football, then I don't see how this helps.

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^

The 100,000+ streak is a good recruiting tool, and it's a promise that those kids will be playing in front of huge crowds every Saturday. I think that's one thing that plays well to kids who want to be in big-time environments. It also shows that fans will consistently stick by you.

And yeah...it's window-dressing, clearly, because fickle fans post stupid s*** on the internet all the time. Some of the stuff that has gone on, especially in the last week, makes our fan base look like a bunch of stupid chumps who will cannibalize each other, the coaches, the athletic director, and anyone else who we think stands in our way of returning to the glory days.

Blue2000

October 1st, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^

The 100,000+ streak is a good recruiting tool, and it's a promise that those kids will be playing in front of huge crowds every Saturday.

Kids aren't stupid.  They watch television, and know what the actual crowd has looked like at the last few games, notwithstanding the announced attendance.  

bronxblue

October 1st, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^

I think kids know something is up, but the streak breaking (as dumb as it is) will make the school look less appealing because it will be yet one more example of the fractured fanbase and the negative environment surrounding the team.  That will absolutely drive kids away, and as dumb as it may be having something, anything to hang your hat on for the NEXT guy coming in would be a net positive.  Unfortunately, UM doesn't get a restart when the next guy comes in; all the crap that happened so far will follow them, and it will take quite some effort to repair the damage.  

westwardwolverine

October 1st, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^

I just feel that people who post incredibly terrible opinions should be called out as such. I find you to be awful. 

And you downplayed the cheap shot by calling it more a blow to the chest, rather than the head, which I've demonstrated numerous times is not true as well as your feelings that his ankle injury was just as likely to cause Morris to almost pass out. 

 

 

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^

You're not calling out my opinions. You're flat-out lying about what I've said.

I'm not responding to you after this post. You've clearly got an axe to grind, and you're clearly incapable of sticking to the truth. I'm not going to waste my time with irrational people who spew lie after lie.

westwardwolverine

October 1st, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^

Right, so you avoid it. 

What am I lying about? Saying he got hit mostly in the chest - rather than the head - IS DOWNPLAYING THE CHEAP SHOT. 

You did say that he could have passed out from his ankle injury, rather than the head shot he just took. 

You spent a whole thread talking down to people about concussed players. 

On top of that, you've never actually explained how Morris actually got hit mostly in the chest with Cockran's helmet. Here, I'll explain to you again: Morris' head is coming down after he releases the ball. Cockran's helmet is rising up into Morris' chin. The left side of the crown of his helmet hits Morris' chin causes Morris' chin to fall away at an angle and Cockran's helmet falls away at the opposite angle. How, exactly, does that constitute a hit mostly to the chest, which is exactly what you said happened? Oh right, its not possible. 

Again, people can neg away and say I've got an axe to grind, that's fine. I just think it should be known that you have had some pretty awful opinions the last few days and that you trying to say that what fans are doing is wrong or what Brian is doing is wrong is hilarious, considering you obviously see yourself as something of an "expert" and how terrible and clueless your opinions here and at your own blog have been. 

 

1931

October 1st, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^

the 100,000 Streak? Really? If that were truly the case then we should have a big recruiting advantage over the likes of Alabama, LSU, and countless other programs who are in the 90,000 range. But my biggest issue with your statement, is what good is recruiting when we can't develop the guys we do get to sign the LOI? 5 star players are nice, but if the staff is only getting 2 star production from them, then recruiting doesn't mean jack. 

There's a famous saying in golf regarding swing changes....sometimes things have to get worse in order to get better. That's exactly where I see the football program at now. If we have to drop below 100K in order to effect change in a positive direction, then sign me up. The largest crowds at football games is a nice have, but give me a competent coach and a smaller crowd everyday of the week over what we have now. 

jmblue

October 1st, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^

Alabama's Bryant-Denny Stadium has a capacity of 101,000.

Anyway, to say that we don't have recruiting advantages over most other schools is crazy.  We consistently land highly-regarded classes despite not being located in a talent-rich state.

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

That second part is kind of the point, though. There are numerous ways to effect change. It seems like we're going for them all at once - petition to fire Dave Brandon, rally to fire Dave Brandon, calling for Hoke's firing, boycotting games, etc. We're essentially burning down the whole program instead of taking a step-by-step approach.

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^

I guess that's kind of the issue, though, isn't it? If it's bad enough to do all this stuff (rally, petition, boycott, etc.), then it's been bad enough to do SOME of it for a while. So why do all of it right now?

And if it's not bad enough to do it all right now, then let's not go overboard.

If you have a marriage going south, the logical first step might be mediation. Instead, we're jumping straight to mediation, counseling, locking each other out of the house, and calling the divorce lawyers all at once.

westwardwolverine

October 1st, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^

It is bad enough if you aren't clueless. Jesus. Do you even pay attention?

The team itself has been awful. Their 0-3 against real opponents with each loss by 10+ points. The coaching has been abysmal, with numerous errors in each game other than possibly Appalachian State. Finally, the incompetence has spread to player safety...and then the Administration tries to cover up the fact that the player in question had a concussion (Which is crazy, cause he got hit mostly in the chest right? Oh no, wait, he got hit full blown in the chin uppercut style), which the head coach either participated in or again, demonstrated his utter incompetence in the press conference beforehand. And if you couple this with everything from last year...yeah, its all come to a head. 

So yeah its bad enough. You're just wrong. Get over it. 

bronxblue

October 1st, 2014 at 2:25 PM ^

I agree with the fact that in a different world cooler heads would prevail and we'd see a more structured, step-by-step repair process take place.  But you've seen this place explode into tribes the past couple of days, and that is in response to the media storm that has overtaken the school and program.  I still hold that the rally will have a longer-lasting negative impact on the program than the positive of getting Hoke and Brandon canned a couple of weeks earlier than they would otherwise.  It was a very public display reiterating a position that everybody already knew and acknowledged; all it did was plaster how pissed off a fanbase is about the team for those who maybe didn't pay too much attention.  If I'm a recruit, the last thing I'd want to do is go to a shitty program with pissed-off fans and uncertainty about the leadership.

But blood is in the water, and through poor handling by the AD and (to a lesser extent) the entire school, plus a fanbase that for all of its claims of being "better" than others can be just as petty and reactionary, I'm not sure anyone WANTS to bring in the mediator and go to counseling.  I hate seeing Mom and Dad break up, but I don't think this school and team can survive months more of this.

ldoublee

October 1st, 2014 at 3:01 PM ^

I believe that you are incorrectly assuming that this situation is the "mediation" step, or step 1.  You are taking a very complicated set of issues and boiling it down to something far more simpler than it really is.  Forgive me for the poor analogy, but the collective Michigan fan mindset has been a warehouse full of fireworks waiting for someone to light a match.

The combination of stunningly impotent offensive output, regressing player performance, junior high level coaching mistakes (10 men on a punt team--twice), etc...in YEAR FOUR--combined with the Shane Morris concussion issues makes this far, far beyond step 1.

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 7:39 PM ^

So my question is: How did the warehouse get so full of fireworks without someone lighting a match already? If the match had been lit a while ago, it wouldn't be such an explosion.

It all boils down to the same thing. Right now the program seems to be imploding, but it shouldn't have reached this point. It just seems like no one really did anything until now, and now they're doing everything within their might.

I Like Burgers

October 1st, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^

The streak doesn't mean shit to a 16 or 17 year old kid.  Being able to potentially play in front of a bunch of people does though and the Big House hasn't been packed lately for quite a while.

And the thing that means most to recruits is winning.  Tiebreakers don't go to "oh, well that school's stadium hold 12k more than this other school."  They go to the team that's winning.

Year of Revenge II

October 1st, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^

You make a small though valid point, but it is ridiculously overstated in this instance. There is no good time for all the changes that need to be, and are going to be, made whether you like them or not, and whether the current or future players like them or not. Better to look like as fans what you call "a bunch of stupid cumps" than to accept as adequate performance from an AD and a coaching staff what not only look like, but appear to be performing as "a bunch of stupid chumps."  In the words of everyone invested in the failing status quo, "the kids deserve better."

TNWolverine

October 1st, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^

Hoke would be talked about regardless due to the product that is currently on the field. I see nothing wrong with a post about possible coaching candidates, especially when we are getting worse every season. He has been talking about his main goal of winning B1G championships and we haven't even been close in his tenure. Its no secret that he is (was)pretty much coaching to keep his job this season. His seat has been hot since last year. 

Kermits Blue Key

October 1st, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^

Are you actually suggesting there's no malaise mixed in with all of these petitions, protests, and declining attendance? There used to be a huge waitlist to go to games - now they are down to about 102k fans (allegedly) with no waitlist to be seen.

So to you it's fine that 100k+ fans have already voiced their displeasure by electing out of the gameday experience altogether as long as at least 100k remain - and those last 100k people should feel obligated to pay exhorbitant ticket, parking, and concession prices to watch a crap product simply for the sake of keeping a streak alive (even though some believe it already ended at the '95 Purdue game)? That's asinine.

corundum

October 1st, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^

Come on man. Our tradition of winning and doing what's right for the players are the only traditions that matter. Michigan has regressed every year under Hoke / Brandon. We've been blown out in back to back home games by Utah and Minnesota. We laid an egg against ND in the last game of the series. The state of the program is more important than attendance records.

I Like Burgers

October 1st, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

C'mon...it will amplify the calls for his head?  How can things be amplified any more than they already are?  Every national outlet from the Today Show to ABC World News Tonight, to every single program on ESPN is talking about this and Hoke's job status.  And you think MGoBlog is going to have more of an impact?  Get real man.

Michigan's streak of 100k is already over.  Last game there was clealy under a 100k.  It will end officially when the AD stops fudging the number.

And your cries of "the team, etc" here are out of place.  Blinding supporting something regardless of what's happening is foolish.  The only way to influence the situation is by voicing yourself through your wallet and presense.  You can support the players, but you don't have to also support the athletic department at the same time.

Magnus

October 1st, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^

Regarding your first part, who are ESPN shows and articles referencing? MGOBLOG! And Brian Cook! That's kind of my whole point. And if ESPN picks up on it, that makes it more likely that ABC (both owned by the same company) will pick up on it. And if ABC picks up on it, then NBC, CBS, or whoever might pick up the ball and run with it.

Brian knows that he influences a lot of readers and fans. I don't necessarily think he's influencing them in a positive direction at this point, though.

I Like Burgers

October 1st, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^

The nightly news show and morning shows went big on this before ESPN started covering it like they are now where its been a topic on just about every single show the last day and a half.  And you're just really delusional if you think TV and print people are reading MGoBlog and saying, oh well they are talking about it here, so I guess I'll right a story on it or devote a segment of my show to it.  When its referenced at all its usually just a simple line of the story -- basically the fans perspective in all of this.  And the reference a lot of other things besides MGoBlog.

Long story short, your perceived influence of MGoBlog and its actual influence are two very, very different things.