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Chris Barnett Also Gone
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Chris Barnett has tweeted that he is out:
No longer at the university of Michigan
A couple of commenters wondered if that might be a joke. It is not. I've heard from multiple sources that Barnett was not in practice and was considering leaving or actually had left the team. Now it's (all but) official. That's the third member of the incoming class to flame out before the first game. At least in this instance I'd forgotten to write a recruiting profile for him. I did fret about his association with Baron Flenory.
Barnett probably wasn't going to play this year after suffering an injury late in his high school season and showing up pushing 280 pounds. Like Posada, his departure is more of a big deal next year when Koger and Watson graduate. At that point the only non-freshman tight end on the roster will be Brandon Moore, who hasn't played a lick thus far in his Michigan career.
Michigan might have to delay this manball thing even longer than they wanted simply because they don't have the personnel to put a tight end on the field much.
UPDATE: There's also Ricardo Miller at TE, though he needs to spend the next year eating nothing but bacon grease if he's going to get up to a reasonable weight.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:34 AM | 
Big Bummer
Big Bummer
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 AM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
Miller better start eating. He still looks like a WR to me.
All in for some manball.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:44 AM |
Miller is 234. There is no reason
Miller is 234. There is no reason
to believe that he can't gain an extra 15 lbs in a year. ~250 isn't bad (Koger is 258)
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
August 25th, 2011 at 10:48 AM |
Yeah, he'll be fine. Lots of
Yeah, he'll be fine. Lots of
Yeah, he'll be fine. Lots of teams have starting TEs in the 235-240 range, and he's there already. If he's anywhere in the 240s next fall he should be just fine.
Brennen Beyer to TE anyone? He's at SAM right now, behind Soph Cam Gordon and RS Fr Jake Ryan, adding highly touted guys to the mix next year too. He might have more PT at TE next fall after a redshirt.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:58 AM |
I think Frank Clark
I think Frank Clark
I think Frank Clark will swap to TE before Beyer.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:15 PM |
I think my boy Keith Heitzman
I think my boy Keith Heitzman
I think my boy Keith Heitzman is the answer. He was the #63 TE nationally according to Scout, and one of my fav recruits. By what I read it seems Heitzman is a good athlete but doesn't look like one, perfect for some trickerization. Heitzman is listed 6'3'' 251 so he has good size already and the DE position looks to be a little crowded over the next few seasons. Go Heitzman! Here is his bio on mgoblue
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/heitzman_keith00.html
August 25th, 2011 at 12:21 PM |
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posted from iPhone
Co-sign. DE depth is still thin, but TE depth is critical. Heitzman is worth a TE look and it's where I thought they were going to put him anyway.
Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought. It always defeats order because it is better organized.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:38 PM |
I'm 6' 1" and 255 and I have
I'm 6' 1" and 255 and I have
I'm 6' 1" and 255 and I have some eligibility left...I wonder if my 45 year old body can get into shape in time for ND?
August 25th, 2011 at 5:16 PM |
@ JakeinVeniceFL
@ JakeinVeniceFL
I sure frickin' hope so. Jesus, a 280 pound tight end for christ's sake. See ya...'fatty' (Barnett)! By the way...Go 45-year-olds!
August 25th, 2011 at 3:04 PM |
good call!
good call!
good call!
"...when the ole' season is over, you and I know, it's going to be Michigan again; Michigan!"
August 25th, 2011 at 3:03 PM |
how many teams with a
how many teams with a
how many teams with a man-ball mentality have undersized TE's..... that's the only problem there....
I like the Beyer to TE move.... I'm intrigued by Clark at DE though.... but then again, I'm intrigued by any front 7 defensive position...
"...when the ole' season is over, you and I know, it's going to be Michigan again; Michigan!"
August 25th, 2011 at 3:10 PM |
So I'm getting from the last couple of posts
So I'm getting from the last couple of posts
Miller should be eating a lot at Blimpy's.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
August 25th, 2011 at 12:27 PM |
Brandon Moore will also be
Brandon Moore will also be
Brandon Moore will also be around in 2012 (unless he isn't granted a fifth year). He hasn't played much, but he had Koger and Webb in front of him last year (and we seldom played more than one TE at a time under RR), so I wouldn't read too much into that.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 AM |
please stop leaving, people
please stop leaving, people
you are making me sad
Tremendous!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 AM |
That bear
That bear
It just makes it so sad
I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 AM |
why are they dropping like
why are they dropping like
why are they dropping like flys? would a redshirt really be that bad?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:44 AM |
It's not necessarily because
It's not necessarily because
It's not necessarily because of being redshirted, he could have been forced to lose the pounds or like someone mentioned in another thread, move inside to the interior of the line. Which moving would not have helped our TE situation at all, but that may have been a possibility. I hate seeing guys with potential move on like this, but it happens. Plus with him coming off of a severe knee injury, maybe he just wasn't able to do what he had been able to do in the past.
“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo
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August 25th, 2011 at 12:47 PM |
This is pretty normal
This is pretty normal
This is pretty normal epecially when you get a new coach. The only thing is you would expect players not recruited by the coach to leave (Stokes), I guess you can include Posada since he was mainly recruited by RR.
I'm not surprised by him leaving at all. The Arkansas posters on another board were warning Michigan fans about how big of a drama queen he is. I was just hoping that was the case during the recruiting process.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
August 25th, 2011 at 5:29 PM |
Hey...
Hey...
Barnett probably realized that he didn't have what it took to meet the new Man Ball standards that are being put in place. If you're 30-40 pounds overweight and you walk into camp where you are expected to kick a little hiney...then only to find out your couch potato ways have caught up with your ass and the guys around you are kickin' the shit out of ya on every play...well, I can see why he left the team. See ya Arkansas 'fatty'...drama queen...please! We don't need any drama, we just need to kick the crap out of OSU this year for cryin' out loud. 2000+ days since we won...'F' that!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:36 AM |
Class of '28
Class of '28
Doesn't seem so far off any more.
We are what we do.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:03 AM |
17 years is still a pretty
17 years is still a pretty
17 years is still a pretty long time.
I hope to be like dang for large sections of the season.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:37 AM |
Nice dedication
Nice dedication
Very nice.
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
August 25th, 2011 at 11:59 AM |
Nice mean-spirited, ignorant comment.
Nice mean-spirited, ignorant comment.
Very ignorant.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:17 PM |
Sorry bud
Sorry bud
If you can't see the great opportunity to stick it out at the University of Michigan, then you're not dedicated. Pure and simple. What's ignorant about my comment? Please enlighten me.
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
August 25th, 2011 at 12:48 PM |
Because we don't know the
Because we don't know the
Because we don't know the full story. All we know is that he was labeled as being kind of a "diva" during his recruitment.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
August 25th, 2011 at 10:38 AM |
attrition
attrition
I know we needed some attrition to get to 26 spots for the '12 class. Have we reached that number? Also if we've gone over 26 how many have we gone over by?
August 25th, 2011 at 12:06 PM |
According to Magnus
According to Magnus
at http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2011/01/eligibility-count-for-2011.html, we are currently at 24 for next year (75 players currently on scholorship and 14 player with only this year of eligibility remaining).
Someone correct me if I am not understanding this correctly.
"... bitterness is no fun, faith is rewarded, the kids on the field are more resilient than we are, and sometimes they can let us borrow some of that."
- Brian Cook
August 25th, 2011 at 10:46 AM |
It was fun when they were
It was fun when they were
It was fun when they were committing in twos, but not so amusing when they depart that way.
Knock it off, fellas.
Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:39 AM |
Lets Go!! BLUE
The Western
Lets Go!! BLUE
The Western
Lets Go!! BLUE
The Western game can't get here fast enough.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
August 25th, 2011 at 5:45 PM |
*Let's Go Blue!
*Let's Go Blue!
*Let's Go Blue!
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August 25th, 2011 at 10:40 AM |
I kinda like when some of
I kinda like when some of
I kinda like when some of these guys leave the program. Either they are not a good fit of they arent' working hard enough and buying in 100%. Its better they leave early then staying around with a bad attitude and not contributing. We need the right kids here that want to be here. It doesn't always work out.
toomer18
August 25th, 2011 at 10:43 AM |
Yeah but not in this case
Yeah but not in this case
He was a highly touted incoming TE. Who is going to be our TE next year now? This is bad.
Tremendous!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:48 AM |
That's a valid point backed
That's a valid point backed
That's a valid point backed up with Magnus' Ex-Wolverine Encyclopedia (http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/p/ex-wolverine-encyclopedia.html). For the vast majority of transfers (not decommits), they don't amount to much for their new teams, or they bounce around and leave football early. About the only big losses we've had are Cobrani Mixon, who went on to do big things in the MAC, Ryan Mallett, and Mr. DickPlow.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:55 AM |
Sorry
Sorry
I guess my post was a bit redundant as I said almost the exact same thing as you with different words. You must be very intelligent or something.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:07 AM |
David Bowens, Jon Ritchie, Ryan Mundy
David Bowens, Jon Ritchie, Ryan Mundy
Matt Guittierez, and maybe a couple other transfers I am forgetting actually played well for other schools, but yes you are right, the vast majority don't ammount to much.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:13 AM |
Justin Fargas of course comes
Justin Fargas of course comes
Justin Fargas of course comes to mind.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:41 AM |
Cato June
Cato June
Add Cato June to the list.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:46 AM |
Cato June never transferred?
Cato June never transferred?
Cato June never transferred?
wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog
August 25th, 2011 at 12:03 PM |
I stand corrected
I stand corrected
I'm not sure why I remember seeing him play for a different team, but I guess I just didn't remember him coming back after his ACL season.
August 25th, 2011 at 3:12 PM |
You thinking
You thinking
Ryan Mundy?
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
August 25th, 2011 at 11:17 AM |
Cobrani Mixon was a two-time
Cobrani Mixon was a two-time
Cobrani Mixon was a two-time first-team MAC linebacker, currently in camp with the Lions.
Sam McGuffie actually had a nice year last year - 883 yards on 196 carries (4.5 per), 39 catches for 380 yards
wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog
August 25th, 2011 at 2:39 PM |
also
also
the DE that transferred to clemson. became an all pro DT in nfl. damn, if his name escapes me though. i remember him botching a few plays against penn st as a frosh.
August 25th, 2011 at 2:48 PM |
Trevor Pryce, good call
Trevor Pryce, good call
Trevor Pryce, good call
Eating is murder.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:52 AM |
I agree with you to a point.
I agree with you to a point.
I agree with you to a point. While it's obviously not good that players don't want to stay, it's just a fact of life that the demands of top level Division 1 football is not for everyone. These kids have got by on talent and a fair portion of hard work so far in their careers, but when someone who shows up out of shape leaves before they really get started (Posada, Barnett), it's a pretty good sign they were not ready for the work load required.
Touch The Banner does a great series on reviewing 2006 recruiting. The key takeaway is that for each highly ranked recruit who ends up being a high draft pick there are quite a few players who either perform well below expectation or leave the program they end up at. I would much rather these kids find the right college football program now than after spending two years on scholarship at Michigan. Best of luck to them wherever they end up.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:41 AM |
Who is next?
Who is next?
Does anyone know if there are others who are missing practice and are also thinking of leaving?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:41 AM |
Oh, well
Oh, well
Ron Thompson, how are you doing?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:42 AM |
Do we make a late
Do we make a late
push for Ron Thompson and add a 3rd TE to the 2012 Class?
Brady Hoke - High quality recruits one or two at a time.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:47 AM |
Personally I say no, just
Personally I say no, just
Personally I say no, just because it still won't help us out much next year. We will still have a true freshman contribute, whether that is one, two, or three, it doesn't matter. I say you use that scholarship on a stud RB or WR.
“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo
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August 25th, 2011 at 10:48 AM |
Hopefully this opens up a
Hopefully this opens up a
Hopefully this opens up a spot for O'Brien, if there wasn't one already.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:28 PM |
we have 2 better options committed
we have 2 better options committed
Funches and Williams are a great combo.
Ron Thompson isn't so good he'll play as a true freshmen.
I guess Ricardo Miller and the walk-ons (Esterline, Allspach, Kwiatkowski) will need to step up bigtime next year.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)