Thankfully Darell Funk is awesome at developing linemen...
"Coach Mattison told me what the Ravens were about, what he thought," Beyer said. "He definitely encouraged me. I hold his opinion in high regard."
A much-needed boost to Michigan's offensive line is apparently headed to the worst possible place:
Alabama transfer Chad Lindsay is expected to sign with Ohio State, per source. Buckeyes get new center for Braxton Miller
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerCBS) April 22, 2014
Well played, Urban.
Running around in a circle is a little over the top, but only a little. That Lindsay rejected his former OC and an almost certain starting spot is alarming, and now Michigan enters next year with zero senior scholarship OL.
Thankfully Darell Funk is awesome at developing linemen...
It's been shown that before he got here , he has. But he also never had an interior as young as last year
So I guess 2 years ago when our OL was horrible and had 3 seniors on the interior can safely be blamed on RR?
Mealer, Barnum, and Omameh were all young for seniors.
It's been shown that before he got here , he has.
It has? Or is it like that canard about Hoke "rebuilding" the Ball St. program?
Really. He's playing for one year, and as we saw last year, one good player does not a good OL make. If we develop the young OL, we'll be fine. If we don't, we were gonna be screwed anyway.
2014, why hast thou forsken us?
Meanwhile, we can't seem to find a QB that wants to play here for 2015. After putting all our QBs in the NFL for like two straight decades.
GO AWAY 2013! STOP IT. STOP IT NOW.
I was hoping for some good news today.
Die in a fire, Urban Meyer.
That is all.
It's not Urban's fault that Michigan is in a bad spot. The blame rests with Hoke, and the man that hired him to begin with.
Hoke is in over his head, huh? Is that why guys like Mattison and Nussmeier come to work for him? That's why nearly none of our players leave? I know we haven't won a lot over the last two years, but let's be real.
Lets get REALLY REAL. Everyone unzip and lets meaure our dicks.
But seriously, Hoke's getting 5 years to do this thing. So grab your ankles.
Did you just get back from the Urologist?
So if we revisit Schembechler's resume and Carr's resume prior to their Michigan head coaching positions, we'll see SEC head coaching experience?
comparing hoke to bo -- umm, no.
"And yes, a guy who was never a coordinator and only a head coach in the MAC and Mountain West IS over his head in a job like this."
Isn't that Urban Meyer's resume before Florida hired him?
Pretty much, minus a MASSIVE difference in success as MAC/Mountain West HC.
Look on the bright side. At least we have fixed the chemistry issues.....right?
as we saw with Rodriguez, that gets you through the first six games
Just maybe he thought he should have been starting for Bama and blames Nussmeier for his own shortcomings. If he didn't come to play for Nussmeier, who he must know pretty well, there is probably an issue that will never be known to people outside the coaching staff.
Maybe Nuss has severe halitosis.
It can be hard at times to be positive about UM football. It's hard enough to lose a guy we need, but man it just seems they go to our rivals so often. I'm sure they think the same thing, but sheesh. What I wouldn't do do for 9 wins and a road victory in Columbus.
He heard that in Columbus they have the contacts where he can sell his two rings for some tats and dough.
is the funniest thing I have seen in weeks...Gee's dumbass blank look, and Tressel's head jerking. lolololol,
I don't care.
...where I see more and more Michigan fans hit the "acceptance" stage of the greiving process. I accepted a long time ago that we just cannot compete with OSU in most aspects of football. I still love my school and I still go to as many games (if not more) as I always have, but under this coaching staff, we have very little chance to ever compete with OSU. It sounds depressing, but I sure do get more sleep and am happier during the football season. I more productive at work, so I guess not all is lost.
Now, I'm still in the "denial" and perhaps "bargaining" stage with our place in the MSU rivalry. Losing this year to Sparty may push me to "acceptance".
If we had a different staff, we perhaps can compete with OSU.
We had a different staff, and actually couldn't compete. Under RR, we scored 24 points on OSU, and they scored 100 on us. That's not competition.
Under Hoke, we have scored 102 on OSU, and they have scored 102 on us. Sounds to me like competition to me.
Damn. Reality has such a weird way of getting in the way of what TheNema feels.
Yippee! Hiring someone besides the evil Michigen Men and having the worst three years stretch in modern history and tanking the OL recruiting so bad that we have to hope for grad year transfers! Yahoo!
We can play this game all day. I can be as stupid as you, maybe more so, if I try my damnedest. The fact is you have let your feelings about Coach Rod's firing totally overwhelm any reason you might once have had.
If you had to choose between Brady Hoke at Michigan or Rich Rodriguez at Arizona and there was a prize where you got to collect $100 for each game they won at their respective schools starting in 2014 season and continuing until they either got fired, quit or retired from that school but you could only choose Hoke at Michigan or Rich at Arizona who would you "bet" on?
I'd take Rich in a heartbeat.
I'd take Hoke. Obviously I still believe he has a bright future here, which is why I defend him.
But isn't what we're talking about (and what matters to us as Michigan fans) how the two coaches fared as coach of our school? I'm sure Rod will do well at Arizona, and I've said that from Day 1. That didn't help us from 2008-2010.
"But isn't what we're talking about (and what matters to us as Michigan fans) how the two coaches fared as coach of our school?"
Yes but you also have to factor in the completely different situation each man walked into....I don't think Hoke would have fared any better than RRod had he been coach from 2008-2010.
EDIT - with one exception being the enviornment would probably have been much better to an insider vs. the outsider. That would have helped a lot.
Your edit is critical. I'm not saying Rod was treated fairly, and in a perfect world, he wouldn't have had those problems. But he did. And he failed. We don't live in a perfect world. We live in this one, where Brady Hoke has done a better job of being a head coach at Michigan than Rod did. So why are guys still fighting that fight? Why did one poster introduce Coach Rod into a topic about Chad Lindsay? It's the same reason any bad news about the current program is always portrayed as a disastrous crisis. And it is pointless.
Because if I had to choose between RR at MICHIGAN and Hoke at MICHIGAN, I would choose Hoke in a heartbeat.
RR was treated as an outsider here. It was horrible. But fact is, he didn't know how to deal with it. People suggest, with little evidence, that Hoke is in over his head. And to me it was more obvious that RR was in over his head. Not necessarily all his fault, but becuase he had to deal with a lot more shit than he probably should have. But, he still wasn't able to deal with it well. The one thing he could control - recruiting and retention - was a failure. You can blame practicegate, but then how has Hoke been able to avoid attrition despite a subpar season? Maybe he's not in over his head as is commmonly argued here?
Arizona is a better fit for RR. Clearly. But, Arizona is also not Michigan (I know...ORLY?). And let's not act like RR has been supremely successful there either. He has one win against Oregon. Besides that? Meh. Hoke has a BCS win at Michigan. No, they didn't beat an SEC or Big 12 or Pac 12 team to get it. But it's still an accomplishment worthy of praise.
I think you missed my point. I did not say who I'd rather "win more games" I asked who you thought would win more games. Clearly I want Hoke to win this contest and win big but when I look at the two respective programs it's hard for me to feel optimism for our future and it's hard not to think they are on an upward trajectory.
A big part of this, for me, anyways, comes from the frustration of Rich being given a budget to hire assistants less than 1/2 of what Hoke has been given and my wondering "what if" Rich had been given the same hand to play. I know RR can coach up an offense and now I know he has zero clue on what to do defensively. So if he had a d coordinator that didnt have as his qualification "willing to coach defense for food" sign up I wonder where we'd be right now. And it pisses me off to no end to think we're back in the same basic hole we dug for ourselves with Rich by not giving him an assistant budget worth a shit now with Hoke. It makes me mad (sorry) cause i think we wouldve fared much, much better from 2008-2010 with a competent Dcoordinator and certainly now if that regime hadnt been taken out so we could get a "Michigan man" in place.
RR couldn't coach up an offensive that could do dick against MSU or OSU.
Hoke has never had an offense that did dick against MSU either. In fact, Hoke's best offense is still worse against MSU than RR's worst offense (tied if you remove the gift TD from 2008).
If you're going to cherrypick, at least cherrypick stats that support your narrative.
Why do people automatically assume that when you criticize this staff it means you prefer the previous staff? To be clear, I don't want either staff.
Also, who gives a shit about comparing points for/against. In case you didn't know, wins are what matter. When looking at that, we cannot compete with OSU. Unless you are referring to moral victories, then we would be 14-0 and national champs.
If Hoke cannot compete with OSU, why is he 1-2 against them? The argument that he has lost one game more against them than he has won means that "Michigan can't compete with OSU" when, in fact, their point totals under Hoke are identical, is asinine.
Now, if you are one of those morons who insists that any coach that doesn't win all of their games is a loser, then I can't help you. But, if you are looking for competition, then Hoke seems to be doing just fine. Not as well as he needs to, and not as well as we'd like, but I think you'd have the exact same bitch and pretty much the same results if Michigan had hired, say, Urban Meyer in 2011.
...you and I have between the words "compete" and "competitive". I agree with you, the games have been close and "competitive", but without a stroke of luck or playing one of the worst OSU teams in a lifetime, we are not winning that match very much. I don't think Hoke is gonna win another OSU game before he is let go. He might win 3 out of 10 at best. Which to me signals, that we cannot compete with them. But that's just me, I respect that you disagree.
And no, I'm not one who thinks we should win every game. That IS asinine. Just as asinine as thinking that Urban Meyer would produce pretty much the same results if he was hired instead of Hoke.
Although, I do think we should beat OSU more often than not. I don't think that's a stretch and was the old standard. The new standard now accepts a lose, just as long as it is competitive.
Michigan was still one play away from beating OSU this year. Claiming exciting games against OSU must mean something, right? RIGHT?
Hoke is 4-1 against his three main rivals at Home (his one loss by 1 point)
Hoke is 0-4 on the road.
In that time, Michigan's rivals have had three undefeated regular seasons and 3 BCS bowl games. Only once against a rival has Michigan not been within 7 points in the 4th quarter, and never under Hoke has Michigan been down more than 7 going into half. Essentially, Michigan's rivals have been good teams that Hoke has lost to on the road and beat at home.
People will try to call what I'm doing "moral victories", but all I'm pointing out is that people that are acting like Michigan is so far and distant from their rivals are not accurate. Michigan is close. And if people are wrong that Borges was a major issue, maybe that's enough to close the little gap there is. Maybe having an OL grow up is the little difference that closes that gap. I remember in 2012 when MSU couldn't block anyone, they lost 5 times at home. OL learned to block, the offense turned a corner. If Michigan's offense can turn the same corner and the defense just remains consistent (as in no growth) then Michigan is likely 9-3 with last years schedule, and maybe that this upcoming year, and maybe good enough to take advantage of a good schedule in '15.
Applause! Best comment on this site in a long time, Space Coyote.