Don't need to win, just be competitive.
this may be of some local interest
A much-needed boost to Michigan's offensive line is apparently headed to the worst possible place:
Alabama transfer Chad Lindsay is expected to sign with Ohio State, per source. Buckeyes get new center for Braxton Miller
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerCBS) April 22, 2014
Well played, Urban.
Running around in a circle is a little over the top, but only a little. That Lindsay rejected his former OC and an almost certain starting spot is alarming, and now Michigan enters next year with zero senior scholarship OL.
Don't need to win, just be competitive.
...getting pounded by Penn State at home in the FREEZING rain ('09) tested my "never leave a game early" maxim. Fortunately, the then under-construction Big Haus made it completely impossible to depart because of the bottlenecking nature of the exits so I stayed. Whew!
You put a Block M on the hat of a USC Trojan?
#ThoseWhoStay or actually #ThoseWhoShowUpinTheFirstPlace...gotta make the OL the best we can with who we have. I, for one, think they are going to pleasantly surprise many folks here
Ditto that, plenty of time for a top five to emerge and gel. Hoke even said they didn't perform like they had the week before the spring game. I think they'll produce a 1000 yard rusher.
You're absolutely right! Our idiot coaches should have held him down against his will and forced him to watch the dozen of hours worth of video recapping our success on the gridiron since Y2K until he verbally commit to play for Michigan, rather than letting him actually choose who he wants to play for! The fools! The damned fools!
Is OL recruiting really a problem for this coaching staff? Doesn't seem like it.
it's not a problem, but if you're talking about evaluations, hard to tell. They may not be good in evaluations but it's their 3rd year in the program so time will tell.
Most of the OL we've recruited had offers from other major programs. If we're evaluating them badly, so are lots of other schools.
What is this 'persuasion' you speak of? Could that be why I obey every single command that anyone ever gives to me? It all sounds so easy...
Well, Ok it got better today with Lindsay, but still they're going to need to grow up fast with Ed Warinner:
than our OL.
Yes, their OL is not very good even with the addition of the guy we so desperately needed and pursued, despite his being familiar with OUR system and his personally knowing our OC.
So what does that say about OUR OL/OC both relative to OSU and just in its own right?
I posted on this late and read from the bottom up and FINALLY came across someone thinking as I am. Maybe you're being sarcastic, and I sound dumb right now. I do think there definitely could be something to it, however.
Who is our Bagman?
That guy needs to step it up.
"Who is our Bagman?"
I have a theory about Bagmen. The stronger the local economy, the more succesful that school's bagmen are. Quite simply, the bagmen are more flush during strong economic times, and there may be more of them. For example, when oil was booming in Texas, the Horns were killing it. It only follows that when the local economy sucks like it does Michigan, there are fewer, less well endowed bagmen.
BTW, cool picture.
Program is just toxic right now. I don't know why anyone would want to sign up right now honestly. Winning, like, every game next year is about the only cute at this point.
So what you're saying is that the new coach in 2015 is gonna have a loaded roster to work with?
People should calm down a little. We're talking about a guy with one year of eligibility, who already missed spring ball. Yeah, he may have been a decent stopgap measure but we'd be replacing him in a year's time anyway.
But by 2015 most of the lineman recruited by Hoke will be upperclassmen. Lindsay could have helped serve as a bridge between now and then.
I'm not sure how easy it is to come as a lineman in the fall and take over a starting spot just like that. If he had transferred in January and had the benefit of spring ball at his new school, he'd be a stronger position. As it is, he's going to have to learn the playbook and develop chemistry with his fellow linemen in a matter of weeks.
Pretty much just needs to not get blown three yards into the backfield on run plays.
He needs to know all of the line calls from day one. That's probably his most important job, then not getting blown off the line...
considering he played under Nuss at Bama. Chemistry, I agree with you.
Hopefully it's not too easy to pick up the play book down in Columbus.
Its way more than that - it speaks to the state of the program. I don't think anyone looked at the guy as a savior but I think people assumed he'd want to play with his old coach. If there's anything attracting a recruit to a school its got to be a coach he played for (or family member/friend there, etc.). Optically, its embarassing to the program for him to choose Ohio State instead. There's probably more to it - maybe he simply didn't like his old coach - but it sure seems to reaffirms what most people already believe: OSU is miles ahead of Michigan at this point and there's no end in sight.
It's one guy. No one guy "speaks to the state of the program" - especially in a sport with 85 scholarship players.
We should at this point be able to field a halfway competent interior OL given the players we've recruited the last three years. The 2012 recruits are in their third year - it should be time for them to step up. If we can't count on them, our issues run too deep to be covered up by one rent-a-senior.
OSU is allowed 82 scholarships next year instead of usual 85...with Lindsay, they are at 83 so they must have at least one other player leaving the program before the season.
Yes. Urban Meyer will inform that player that he really really wants to leave the program just as soon as Meyer decides who it is.
I think it's important to acknowledge that he will only be playing college football for one more year. It's hard to look at Michigan and OSU and not think that OSU will have a better 2014 than Michigan. If we saw large numbers of high school recruits picking OSU over Michigan that would be a different story.
maybe the guy just likes the way he looks in red?
people were trying to say he was the number 1 juco player in the nation. . . Ignoring the programs troubles which inevitably surfaced. Getting this kid is merely putting different lipstick on this pig. . . .
If Franklin comes in and starts doing the same UM is in real trouble. He is already off to a great start and has the best pro QB in the conf (soph at that). UM could be looking at 4th in the divison....I've ready given up in 1st. OL and running game is just too terrible to make that kind of a leap.
Win or lose we will be there.
Zok, ease up on the doom and gloom. Penn St is badly hamstrung by scholarship reductions. They should be able to field a decent 1st string, but it will likely have a few holes, and they will be lacking depth. There is no reason to finish behind them.
Also, Hoke made a good move bringing in Nussmeier to replace Borges. If nothing else, play calling is bound to improve. I still can't figure out why Borges would routinely have his TE chip block to assist Lewan. Of all the guys on that O-Line that needed help pass blocking, Lewan probably needed it the least. Also, the guy was so hung up on always doing the unexpected, he often ignored the obvious. There are times when you just need to impose your will on the other team. Borges rarely did that.
Kind of disturbing since we have his former OC here.
For his 1st three years. To say he is the saviour for this team is a bit of a stretch. This team has to start winning consistently and things will take care of themselves.
this is the worst news related to chads since 2000
wish i'd thought to add, "the kid really left us hanging" before you got your reply in. wordplay > whining.
Also shouldn't be surprising that a guy who signed up to play for Saban for 4 years would connect with Meyer better than Hoke.
Just fuck it.
I give up.
Thankfully Darell Funk is awesome at developing linemen...
It's been shown that before he got here , he has. But he also never had an interior as young as last year