Good luck, Mr. Burke; I hope you prove everyone wrong. Thanks for playing for Michigan.
Mike Lantry, 1972
It's been a long time, Henri, the otter of ennui. I hate you.
Trey Burke is leaving Michigan after just one season.
The Wolverines point guard, according to sources, is expected to forgo his remaining three years of eligibility and declare for the NBA.
Article also says Michigan's bringing Spike Albrecht in Thursday. You have permission to panic.
UPDATE: Nick Baumgardner pinged Burke's dad and got this in a text:
Benji Burke tells AnnArbor.com that "Trey has not declared"
I'll be in the bomb shelter.
UPDATE II: Burke's father also has a twitter account:
Trey Burke has not declared for the NBA draft. He is still enrolled at the University of Michigan.
UPDATE III: I have an unconfirmed email from a guy who isn't established with me stating that Burke already has his evaluation, that it's 20-35, and is gone. He's got enough of an online presence that I can confirm he's an alum with a plausible route to that information, but again: unconfirmed, not established. Given the way the wind is blowing I don't doubt it.
Good luck, Mr. Burke; I hope you prove everyone wrong. Thanks for playing for Michigan.
I realize it's a small sample, but with Morris and Burke both choosing to leave based on meager to average draft prospects, can we really only expect one good year from those guys before they bolt to the NBA? It wouldn't be a problem if we were Kentucky or Duke, and we could just reload instead of rebuild, but we're not at that point yet. The program is certainly on the rise, so I'd say we expect to get there eventually, but how long will that take?
We gotta positive u guys. Look at it this way; this will spark our interest in the NBDL and whatever team Mr. Burke starts his career out with. I wish him the best but I'm selfish too. Go Blue
Can't stop a kid from making paper. It's his choice - as poor as it may seem. Best of luck to him.
Millions of dollars is a poor choice? You definitely aren't thinking about his window to make money.
So the silver lining is that without a guy to distribute to our the other peeps, perhaps we won't see GRIII or McGary leave cause we'll be crappy. Maybe the 13-14 season will be our year?
Wasn't Burke not supposed to get his evaluation info until the 6th?
Evaluations were to be released no later than the 6th.
I don't see how Burke even gets drafted, how many kids gets a 25-30 evaluation?
Is this announcement set in stone?I hope Trey stays but if he goes pro best of luck to him.
Because I see $20,000 reasons why Burke should stay!
Seriously, he is not ready and I doubt will develop much more in the NBA. He is absolutely not going in the first round, and will be lucky to see the d-league. Morris needed another year too.
Whoever is giving him these grades is a fucking fool.
Sacrificing long term financial wealth for short term gain imo.
he can share an apartment with D. Morris, D. Warren, and E. Shazor.
See how those who think Trey's making a good decision here are basing on his NBA draft evaluation of 20-35 I think a bet is in order. Here's what I propose:
Burke selected from 1-19 - I pay $1,000
Burke selected from 20-24 - I pay $500
Burke selected from 25-30 - I pay $100
So if you think Burke is getting solid advice you cannot lose! But in that miniscule chance that maybe...just maybe he's not here's what I would get if he is not:
Burke selected from 31-35 - I get $100
Burke selected from 36-40 - I get $500
Burke selected 41 or higher I get $1,000
...and gone undrafted?
I can only think of Scotty Hopson. Who am I missing?
You sir seem like the kind of man up for a sporting proposition such as the one I have suggested........
If it was, I think you've mistaken an honest question for a rhetorical one. I honestly don't know how common it is for players coming out after their freshman year to go undrafted--I think it's rare, but I wanted to know.
If it's true, as some people have stated here, that 60 or so players get grades of 20-35 (or better), I think we'd some effects of that, with players getting lured into declaring and then being dropped out of the draft. It seemed like one way to test the proposition, since we don't have any direct statistics on the grades as far as I know. If there haven't been any freshman declaring after they get their grades and then going completely undrafted, I'm guessing it's unlikely here as well.
As far as your "sporting proposition" goes it doesn't really seem a fair test of my claim. It means assuming (1) that the answer to my question is "none", or close to it, which I don't know; and, worse, (2) that some unconfirmed e-mail Brian received from someone he has no history with or connection to is an accurate description of the grade and that the evaluation is really from the advisory panel and not some agent. And if those things are true I still lose if the grade is accurate and he comes in 30-35. Silly bet if you ask me.
I'm not saying this is all Belein's fault, but you do have to be alarmed when so many people are leaving the program. It's been a few weeks since the season ended, and we are down four players. I personally think that reflects a bigger problem.
espn reports burke is still undecided
please be true
We sound like sour grapes cry babies.
If the kid wants to leave, wish him well and call it a day.
We have three top 100 recruits coming in, and a great coach, I am sure we can work this out to our advantage.
Going to leave how I really feel to myself and just say, Good Luck Trey. Thanks for the season.
A draft grade of 20-35 really means 20-undrafted. I really wonder who is giving Burke true, honest advice. I'd bet it's nobody really.
Yeah that's what I thought. I've seen his name in the late second rd in a couple mocks but I have no confidence he'll be drafted. In the next week many more players will be declaring too. I don't get it.
The only ones I've found that have been updated since this leaked are:
nbadraft.net he's 39
draftexpress he's 40
That's not "late second round" but it also isn't 20-35.
The Daily is retweeting alleged pictures of Trey Burke's dorm room, bags packed. FWIW.
Yep, that actually is his dorm room too (not a creeper, just rewatched one of his journey to Ann Arbor vids on youtube to see if his dorm room was the same). He could just be packing up to head home for Easter, but that seems like a lot of packing to go home for a couple days. :(
The possibility of making lots of money right now is the biggest one, but maybe it's not that simple—he also might dislike being in school, or he might dislike playing for Beilein. Going to college isn't everybody's cup of tea.
Mgrowold tried an analogy, so I'll try one too (but mine has a '68 camaro and chicks in it).
When my brother was a freshman in college, he bought a '68 camaro RS convertible and a few weeks later made plans to drive to Florida with friends, another guy and two girls over a break. He desperately wanted a 4-speed instead of the 3-speed transmission the car came with, so he bought another transmission and changed it out the day before he left. My father told him not to do it...To wait. and if he had to have the 4-speed for the trip, put it in the car, but wait for another time to drive to Florida when he had an opportunity to make sure everything was going all right. Welll the other guy backed out, so my brother was left with the decision to head to Florida right then with two chicks in his 4-speed ragtop camaro, or wait, perhaps another year. Like most teenage boys, he left (maybe like Don's scenario, he was getting away from "the coach," too).
Needless to say, somewhere in Georgia, the transmission got stuck in second gear. By the time he got to Florida, he could only drive in reverse. He ended up having to sell the car in northern Florida for far less than it was worth. The two girls took a bus back to Michigan. He ended up in south Florida for several months. He had a blast with numerous other girls, spent several months in Florida, of course flunked out of college. He did have his dream trip to Florida (of sorts), but it only lasted a few months and then it was just fond memories (and a few not so fond). So, Trey, stay until next year and work on that transmission until you get it humming. Then take your dream trip to the NBA. Oh what the hell do I know. Maybe just leave now and have a blast while you can.
Best of luck to him if he can get drafted. If not, hopefully a team will pick him up and he will develop.
It's tough to keep kids in school, especially with the potential for a well paying job. Though, if he would stay and does well next season, he may be a first rounder next year. I wonder if he realizes how much money he may be losing?
I'm not saying "he should have gone" because the only thing that will determine that is how he fares.
But the idea that he's underdeveloped is a bit much, in my opinion. He was, arguably, the most productive PG in the nation from a statistical standpoint, and was definitely the most productive of guys that might be in this draft. This draft is EXTREMELY thin in Point Guards. I realize Austin Rivers is a pro SG, but he played point at Duke, so here is Burke compared to his cohort in this class, using tempo-free stats to even out playing time:
Trey Burke: 105.3 ORtg, 53.8% TS%, 28.7 Arate, 18.6 TOrate, 30.6 FTrate
Austin Rivers: 104.7 ORtg, 53.8% TS%, 13.0 Arate, 17 TOrate, 45.8 FTrate (Burke was as good a shooter, a much better facilitator, equivalent risky with the ball, not as good at getting to the line)
Tony Wroten: 95.5 ORtg, 48.8% TS%, 24.5 Arate, 21.7 TOrate, 59.1% FTrate (Burke is superior at everything other than getting to the line)
Marquis Teague: 99.4 ORtg. 49.1% TS%, 25.5 Arate, 23.7 TOrate, 33.8 FT rate (Burke is superior in everything other that getting to the line, where he is nearly equal)
Tyshawn Taylor: 104.2 ORtg, 56.9% TS%, 29.7 Arate, 22.6 TOrate, 42 FTrate (Taylor grades out as slightly better in everything other than turnovers, but his usage was sufficiently smaller for Burke to provide more value - hence the higher ORtg)
From a standpoint of PRODUCTION, Burke is arguably the best PG in the draft.
But we all know you're not going anywhere.
He should definitely not leave