thumb. My therapist tells me only "Heisman Denard" or Kate can restore me to sanity.
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
It's been a long time, Henri, the otter of ennui. I hate you.
Trey Burke is leaving Michigan after just one season.
The Wolverines point guard, according to sources, is expected to forgo his remaining three years of eligibility and declare for the NBA.
Article also says Michigan's bringing Spike Albrecht in Thursday. You have permission to panic.
UPDATE: Nick Baumgardner pinged Burke's dad and got this in a text:
Benji Burke tells AnnArbor.com that "Trey has not declared"
I'll be in the bomb shelter.
UPDATE II: Burke's father also has a twitter account:
Trey Burke has not declared for the NBA draft. He is still enrolled at the University of Michigan.
UPDATE III: I have an unconfirmed email from a guy who isn't established with me stating that Burke already has his evaluation, that it's 20-35, and is gone. He's got enough of an online presence that I can confirm he's an alum with a plausible route to that information, but again: unconfirmed, not established. Given the way the wind is blowing I don't doubt it.
thumb. My therapist tells me only "Heisman Denard" or Kate can restore me to sanity.
I know it's a tremendous temptation, but this just screams terrible choice to me.
Well that sucks.
Is reporting he's gone. F bomb!!!
If he's drafted first round, this was totally the right choice. But, I'm starting to think there's someone in the NBA advisement committee that hates Michigan.
Assuming Darius Morris could have been a first round pick by staying and assuming he isn't ever getting more than a rookie contract (a safe bet), he forfeited $1.5 million (~$3 - 1.5 million) by leaving early. Someone gave him bad advice.
You've got to think Manny Harris would have at least been drafted if he'd stayed another year. Instead, he's living off of 10-day contracts right now.
I really hope this doesn't happen to Burke.
But it will. The NBA is full of good PGs, most teams have back up PGs better than him. Not only that, but he's probably the fourth or fifth best PG in this draft , and there will be somewhere around four or five PGs better than him in every class going forward.
I hope it works out for him, but I seriously doubt it does.
Great point. It's one thing if you're a 7 footer. At 5'11 (if that), there are a few hundred million guys that tall.
Thanks for the 2011-12 B1G championship. Best of luck kid.
is UM the only school that loses 3* underclassmen to the NBA?
This program loves me and wants me to be happy. This program loves me and wants me to be happy. This program loves me and wants me to be happy.
The Marcus Taylor comparison Aquaman tweeted seems to fit really well the more I think about it.
How about Denard Robinson for a year at PG? He's about the same size as Burke, has serious quickness, and has a similar turnover (read: interception) ratio.
on Ted Hightower's face would be worth the price of admission.
That's the one and only benefit of having his overrated self reffing our games.
Dennis (Trogdor) Norfleet played really good PG at King this year. I'm sure he's up for the two sport combo.
Honestly, I feel he is less prepared for the NBA than either Manny OR Morris were, and neither of them managed to go in the 1st round. Every draft is different, but man, talk about not looking at what's right in your face when making your decision.
Manny was a better scorer and taller. Morris was a better passes and taller. Burke is a nice player, but at his height, he is likly ticketed as a back-up PG at best, since other teams will create matchups to abuse him on defense.
I had heard some rumblings from an insider that there was some bad blood between Burke & THJ during the season. I have to wonder if that had something to do with this.
Yeah, it's clear to any realistic person he won't be drafted. He needs a ton of work.
I 100% guarantee you he will be drafted.
He's a significantly better scorer than Manny, the difference is that he doesn't shoot 17 times a game. He shot 46% from the floor, Manny was 41%. Burke is better at scoring than Manny, he just didn't gun.
The knock on Burke is his size. Unless Beilein has a stretching rack in the training room, staying 4 years at Michigan won't improve that.
Burke is only a significantly better college 3-point shooter than Manny was. From 2, their percentages are almost identical. We have no way of knowing if Burke will continue to hit lots of 3's from the longer NBA distance.
Plus, Harris had to shoulder the load as "the man" which meant every time the shot clock was running down, he ended up going 1 on 5 to try and score. Burke certainly did some of that too, but he had a lot moe quality options to pass off to than Harris did.
Congrats Trey. Best of luck at the next level.
Lol. Only on MGoBlog is this trolling. Telling a kid congrats for having a chance to reach his ultimate goal of playing in the NBA is trolling. Whoever downvoted this (most likely the guy below me), I would say fuck you but go and get your own dick.
Playing Devil's Advocate: Saying congratulations is a bit like saying congrats to someone who has just declared "I'm going to go get a job." Sure, that's a great sentiment, but you haven't accomplished anything yet. Shouldn't we save our congratulations for if/when he gets drafted and/or makes a team? At this point, hypothetically for the time being, you're simply congratulating a decision that might turn out to be a huge mistake.
And, yes, I played sports, certainly don't know what it's like to be able to play professionally, but I'm not sure how that would disqualify an opinion.
Point well taken. Probably a little premature with the congrats but still, I would rather be early saying job well done than say half the shit I have read in this thread.
Classic "lose-lose" scenerio here.
So on draft night as pick after pick roll by and Isunga Isoolatvialian, a 6'9" PF from Eastern Boslonvia, is the pick instead of Trey and the draft ends with Burke going all MannyHarris and having to try and stick as a Free Agent someplace, which poster will be the first to say.....
"You can't be critical of his decision. He's a Michigan man and he did what was right for him and maybe this will work out for the best" instead of calling it like it truly is and saying "Burke totally f'd himself. Like Harris and Morris before him."
Way way way too much smoke billowing out the windows here. He is GONE.
EDIT: How ironic. Looks like we already have a candidate signed up for the honors (see post directly above mine)
Right because it's better to be anonymous internet tough guy and say "This dumb ass. Why the hell didn't he listen to me when I told him he wouldn't get drafted." This is the reason I don't like posting on this blog. It is filled with people who most likely have never played sports in their life and have no idea what it is like to fulfill a lifelong goal of getting paid to play you favorite sport.
I'm 52 and own my own business. A few years ago a good friend of mine got upset when he wasnt promoted to partner in the firm he was working at and wanted to quit in protest. I told him "dont be stupid-as upset as you are, stay put until you find something better cause quitting in anger will just hurt you and your family. Not the company."
I told him that not because I dont like him but because i do and i didnt want my friend to make a decison that would hurt him. I think Trey going pro now will hurt him (forget the team here) as an undrafted Free Agent has a very, very short shelf life in the NBA.
So was a collegiate athlete? No. I was a student at U of M and a fan...that's it. And as far as downvoting you dont get all riled up over it. One - they dont matter anymore and two - it wasnt me.
I apologize to you first for my immature remarks. I became extremely frustrated today reading several comments directed at Trey. I was in a similar to position to Trey and received very similar feedback from the local fans. Regardless, I should not have responded to you in the fashion in which I did and for that, I truly am sorry.
No worries! All good.
but there are people like you who also fail to see the other side. true, burke turning pro is his dream. but he could be putting his heart before his head. ya, he "may" get drafted this year. but if he doesn't, then what? it is very difficult to make it to the nba undrafted. manny is probably an exception, but he is still up and down between the D League.
his draft stock is much more likely to be higher next year: his game should improve, several players stayed in college an extra year this past year due to lockout potential, UM will have better front-court talent for burke to showoff his assists and give himself easier shots.
there just seem to be more evidence to stay than jump.
His draft stock will not improve - the NBA doesn't draft on production, they draft on potential.
Staying in college will not make him taller.
Staying in college will not improve his quickness.
He has already demonstrated elite floor awareness, strong leadership, and an above average stroke.
First, that's not true, if it were the NBA never would have instituted the one and done rule, and you'd have an MLB model for drafting.
Second, where it is somewhat true, is drafting of big men. As the saying goes, you can't teach size.
Third, the general thinking these days is that big men develop faster in the NBA, while guards develop faster in college. I think the difference is that young post players develop more with one on one drills. Guards develop more with playing, something that the 11th or 12th man on the bench doesn't do much of.
Burke won't get taller, but he can cerntainly get quicker, and he can certainly improve pretty much every aspect of his game. A little improvement would go a long way to advancing his NBA dreams.
I disagree. Why do you think that Marquis Teague, a player who was statistically inferior in every metric, routinely gets a 1st round grade?
Or Tony Wroten?
Or Austin Rivers?
Hint: it's not production
Frankly, Marquis Teague is the only one of the three that put up inferior numbers to Burke, and I'm not sure that's a fair comparison when Teague was playing on a virtual all-star team. Did you watch him play? He's pretty good. He's also likely to go a mid-late first round draft pick, who in my opinion, would benefit from another year in school to show that he could handle more of the load.
They all shot worse
they all had similar scoring numbers
and inferior assist/TO ratios
If you're going to pick and choose statistics to prove greater production, at least be accurate. Rivers (who is a SG) shot 3s better, Wroten had a better FG% and Teague had better Assist/TO numbers.
All four had similar productivity, and none of them are likely to be lottery picks.
My point isn't that the NBA ignores potential, but rather that productivity matters. With four guys who have all shown similar productivity, it's not shocking that the three with "better" NBA bodies are rated slightly higher. I think Trey Burke could make up the difference if he was an All-American caliber player next season.
Definitely agree with you here. Look at Kemba Walker, he's only an inch taller than Trey, but due to his production over 3 years and his outstanding play in the 2011 Tournaments (both the Big East Championship and the NCAA) he vaulted himself into the 1st Round.
I just want to be clear we're talking facts, here:
Burke: 50.2% eFG%, 1.6:1 A/To ratio, 3.5 reb, 74.4% FT
Wroten: 45.3% eFG%, 1:1 A/To ratio, 5 reb, 58.3% FT
Teague: 44.9% eFG%, 1.7 A/To ratio, 2.5 reb, 71.4% FT
Rivers: 50.5% eFG%, 0.9:1 A/To ratio, 3.4 reb, 65.8% FT
If your argument is anything other than "Burke was the most productive of the group", you're wrong. One guy shot as well, but didn't facilitate the offense as well, and turned the ball over more.
Another rebounded better, but did literally everything worse.
Another facilitated/protected the ball as well, but did literally everything else worse.
assuming all else is constant, his draft stock should improve next year based soley on the fact that several players didn't declare last year due to the potential nba lockout. those #s alone could easily take him from the 1st round to the 2nd round and 2nd round contracts are not guaranteed.
Isoolatvialian is from Lower Slobbovia, not Eastern Boslonvia.
Random foreign player is to be referred to as Yuri Eurostiff.
Let him makes his decisions, it's his life. I think it's wrong, you think it's wrong, most people think it's wrong, but that doesn't make it our decision. Wish him luck and move on, this does set the program back but don't let one player define the entire program, this is still Michigan fergodsakes.
Good luck Trey, but by this time next year I think both of us are gonna wished you had stayed
Brian is not making me any happier:
The same people advising Morris must have advised Burke...