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Burke Departure: Possible
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Trey Burke may have said he'd be back next year in the immediate aftermath of Michigan's ouster from the NCAA tourney, but those things are always subject to change once the emotion of a tough loss wears off.
It has, and now Burke's dad is saying stuff like this:
"We figured we had to at least see what's going on," Benji said. "That's where we're at. We're wanting to see where we're at and go from there.
"Trey just got to Ann Arbor. We just got here, and now we're talking about him leaving. It's just tough, it's a tough decision but hopefully we'll be back in Crisler this year. ... As of now, we're coming back. But anything can change. We're open."
That AnnArbor.com article is headlined "Burke to look into NBA draft stock, still leaning towards staying." The analogous article at the Free Press is of course titled "Trey Burke strongly considering leaving Michigan for NBA draft," because obviously. Pick your probability from amongst options.
Burke's dad says he's had reports that Trey could go anywhere from 18-24th overall. That is greatly divergent from draft boards maintained by Chad Ford (where he ranks 72nd) and Draft Express (not in the top 100, last pick of the first round in their 2013 mock) and could be agents trying to get a kid to sign; that's why they have advisory boards.
I don't think Burke's in a situation like Darius Morris, who left with full knowledge he probably wouldn't be a first-rounder, but at this point any Michigan fan who's assuming is doing the understandable thing.
If Burke does end up declaring Michigan is of course totally boned. At this point the #2 PG is either a walk-on or a 6'6" shooting guard who isn't even on campus yet. They'd probably get a transfer or late commit or something given the obvious opportunity but Trey Burkes don't grow on trees. With the NCAA moving up the withdrawal date over and over again at least we won't have to wait long to know: Burke is in or out by April 10th.
March 21st, 2012 at 8:55 PM | 
Chump Change
Chump Change
March 21st, 2012 at 6:44 PM |
I pray there's no legs to this rumor,
I pray there's no legs to this rumor,
both for Michigan AND for Burke. Like Morris, he isn't ready for the NBA. Too many holes in his game that need developing. Sure, he has NBA potential, but it's just that right now. I'd really, really love to see the rule changed for eligibility for the draft to match football in terms of age. This is getting ridiculous.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
March 21st, 2012 at 6:51 PM |
The dad seems like he's
The dad seems like he's
The dad seems like he's hungry for some coin.
March 21st, 2012 at 6:51 PM |
The state of NCAA basketball
The state of NCAA basketball
The state of NCAA basketball is such that there is incentive to root against your best players. I, and I presume most UM fans, are quietly glad THJ had an off year so we can get him back again. And, we now all know that if Trey does return, he is as good as gone next year if he repeats his 2011-2012 performance. So, we need to either rely on JB bringing in classes every year like he has lined up for the next two, or we need more guys who don't project well to the NBA but are college stars. Seems like there may be something to the Coach K strategy after all. (NOTE: It pains me to give dook credit for anything)
March 21st, 2012 at 6:58 PM |
Dear Trey:
It's me, El Jeffe.
Dear Trey:
It's me, El Jeffe.
Dear Trey:
It's me, El Jeffe. Allow me to jog your memory via Wikipedia about another young man in a similar situation as you. Pay particular attention to the last paragraph.
Enjoy!
Love,
El Jeffe
Marcus Taylor (born November 25, 1981 in Lansing, Michigan) is an American professional basketball player.
He was a Naismith All-American, McDonald's All-American, two-time Parade All-American and USA Today 1st-team All-American. He also went on to win Mr. Basketball of Michigan Award in 2000. He attended Michigan State University, where he played for Tom Izzo for two seasons. In just his sophomore season he became only the second player in Big Ten history to lead the league in scoring and assists, and the first in MSU history. He won a gold medal on the FIBA Under-21 World Championship in Saitama, Japan.
Marcus was drafted by the Minnesota Timberwolves(NBA) in 2002.[1] Since then he has played for the Sioux Falls Skyforce (CBA), ASVEL Lyon-Villeurbanne (France), MENT Vassilakis (Greece), the Southern Crescent Lightning (WBA), the Albuquerque Thunderbirds (NBDL), the Tulsa 66ers (NBDL), TBB Trier (Germany), and the Anaheim Arsenal (NBDL).
March 21st, 2012 at 7:00 PM |
If he's hearing he could be a
If he's hearing he could be a
If he's hearing he could be a first rounder, then he's gone. I hate the NBA.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:34 PM |
Someone give him
Someone give him
Ernest Shazor's number, STAT. What's that? His phone is turned off? hmmmmm
March 21st, 2012 at 7:03 PM |
If he *were* to go
If he *were* to go
while you have guys like Sullinger and Buford staying, I will refuse to believe that all things are the same here. No f'n way.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:06 PM |
Serenity NOW!
Serenity NOW!
OOOOHHHHHHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm...............................
March 21st, 2012 at 7:11 PM |
Nick Stauskas
Nick Stauskas
At the risk of appearing to be stalking, I do happen to follow Nick Stauskas as well as Trey Burke on twitter. Nick just tweeted to Burke a few minutes ago: "bro don't leave us. We got a chip to win!"
Hope Nick is persuasive.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:26 PM |
You've got to wonder about Beilein at this point
You've got to wonder about Beilein at this point
Three guys transferring, now this. And it all follows a very dismal end to the season. The Athletic Dept. administrators need to examine what is going on in the basketball program. Either something negative has been happening behind the scenes or we're just not recruiting the right people.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:32 PM |
Wait what?
Wait what?
We just won a co-B10 championship for the first time in forever and we're going to fire the coach who's given us a taste of sweet basketball success after a decade in the basketball netherworld? No thank you sir.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
March 21st, 2012 at 9:07 PM |
I'm beginning to get the feeling
I'm beginning to get the feeling
You're not really a Daily Sports Editor.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
March 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 AM |
Can he be banned?
Can he be banned?
He's a clear troll.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:35 PM |
May have been answered
May have been answered
May have been answered already somewhere else but, is what we're seeing here common in the BiG? 3 players including an important starter transferring and a freshman PG star looking to jump like this? How come this doesn't happen to MSU or does it and I just don't notice?
Neg me if this has been covered already and apologies if that is the case, but I'm trying to see where this stands relative to the norm in the BiG.
March 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 AM |
MSU lost Lucious, Allen and
MSU lost Lucious, Allen and
MSU lost Lucious, Allen and Sherman the last two years.
The 10-13 players on B10 rosters are always a risk to transfer for more PT. Anyone who gets a first round NBA draft grade is also a risk to leave. Smotrycz is the only unexpected development today.
In such a cynical, sarcastic society, oftentimes looking for the negative on anybody or anything, if you're fortunate enough to spend five minutes or 20 minutes around Tim Tebow, your life is better for it. -Thom Brennaman
March 21st, 2012 at 7:47 PM |
So say Burke leaves, at least
So say Burke leaves, at least
So say Burke leaves, at least we'll have the Spring Game 4 days after on April 14th to feel better about it.
On an unrelated point, I am considering rooting for Michigan State to win the NCAA Tournament. If they do, I think Izzo would strongly consider retiring and going out on top. And that would be very good for us.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:52 PM |
Sorry
Sorry
But he is not retiring. No way. He will be there a long time.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:57 PM |
This could turn into the
This could turn into the
This could turn into the second coming of your starting point guard, from the Ross School of Business, senior John Andrews.
March 21st, 2012 at 7:59 PM |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
March 21st, 2012 at 8:03 PM |
Burke doesn't have a dead-on NBA comp
Burke doesn't have a dead-on NBA comp
but his closest one is Jameer Nelson
March 21st, 2012 at 8:07 PM |
I like that his dad is quoted
I like that his dad is quoted
I like that his dad is quoted as saying that he wants Trey to stay. I suspect he'll eventually go with his father's wishes.
March 21st, 2012 at 8:09 PM |
I don't think John Beilein with get much sympathy from
I don't think John Beilein with get much sympathy from
Red Berenson. He's had a bucketful of guys leave before their senior season, and more than a couple have ended up riding buses in the minors.
March 21st, 2012 at 8:50 PM |
I'd be amazed if he went to
I'd be amazed if he went to
I'd be amazed if he went to the pros, as he is still an undersized PG at a position that looks pretty loaded in this draft. I thought Morris made a mistake when he left last year, and Burke would be doing the same if he decided to leave this year as well. That said, I wish him the best if he does leave.
March 21st, 2012 at 8:59 PM |
Seriously....
Seriously....
This is the worst consecutive front page posts I can remember in a long time. What a shitty day. Should be fun to explain to a 6 and 4 year old that the player the followed every minute of the season was stolen away by the almighty dollar. The NBA sucks....
March 21st, 2012 at 9:12 PM |
GO ahead. Give up the best years
GO ahead. Give up the best years
Of your life for the NBA. Go figure. Maybe a solid career to boot. Too early to tell. Go figure. $ isn't life.
Go Blue !!!
Dave Brandon: Detailed and thorough investigation proves that Freep report was intentionally misleading.
March 21st, 2012 at 9:30 PM |
Pardon me, what exactly does
Pardon me, what exactly does
Pardon me, what exactly does "go figure" mean here? I agree with your sentiment that he should not forego the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to represent the university and possibly contend for a national championship or two.
Except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.
March 21st, 2012 at 9:14 PM |
Possible? Yes.
Possible? Yes.
But he won't be going anywhere until AT LEAST after his Sophmore year.
March 21st, 2012 at 9:35 PM |
Anyone got a gun I can
Anyone got a gun I can
Anyone got a gun I can borrow? You may have to call the Coroner's office to get it back.
/s
But seriously, anyone??
Worst two posts in a row.
Class of 2008 and 2009
March 21st, 2012 at 9:53 PM |
I know this would be more
I know this would be more
I know this would be more appropriate w/a football player, but I gotta say it: hold me, Tom VH.
March 21st, 2012 at 9:54 PM |
This is how I feel...
This is how I feel...
This is how I feel...
March 21st, 2012 at 10:34 PM |
He's not going anywhere. He
He's not going anywhere. He
He's not going anywhere. He will go in the first round next year - this year he is second round at best likely not to be drafted at worst.
This is the reality of running a top flight program. You will get some great players who will want to leave early. This is life to be honest.
I know we are getting bent out of shape but would you rather Beiliein recruit players who suck. Burke won't go - they will do well next year. Smotrycz leaving on the other hand really, really hurts....
And if Burke leaves we will figure it out. This program under Beilein just has....
March 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 AM |
The problem I have with this
The problem I have with this
The problem I have with this is simple: At Kentucky or North Carolina - real top flight programs - the guys who are leaving early are leaving because they are going to be picked in the first 15-20 picks or at least first round. The guys who have left Michigan early (Manny and Darius) went undrafted and drafted late, late second round. Trey would - probably at best - be drafted late in the second round.
If its really all about money, then thats fine. But someone needs to sit down with them and explain the massive difference between a lottery contract and an undrafted rookie contract.
March 21st, 2012 at 10:35 PM |
You guys are thinking
You guys are thinking
You guys are thinking negative, I mean yes Trey Burke is a great basketball player, but we have Mitch McGary who dominated and will show it in the college level also, we have Vogrich coming back which will defianetly be very good this coming year, still have Morgan still have Hardaway Jr. And we are getting two 4 star point guards for this coming year. We will be a young team but we won't be bad at all, I see us doing good without Trey Burke, but if we did have them we almost have an automatic B1G win! Let's just hope Trey comes back to have another great season.
March 21st, 2012 at 10:50 PM |
hi stu,
hi stu,
first, you spelled your last name wrong. second, what the hell happened to the team? i thought you and zack were building a foundation that was going to last. now we're turning over at least 6 and maybe 7 players. wtf, dude?
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
March 21st, 2012 at 10:51 PM |
First off I'm not the real
First off I'm not the real
First off I'm not the real stu Douglas I'm a fan of him. Sorry for the mix up
March 21st, 2012 at 11:57 PM |
lol
lol
i know, dude. i was just venting a little.
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
March 21st, 2012 at 11:02 PM |
But this also wouldn't be his
But this also wouldn't be his
But this also wouldn't be his fault. He tried and so did Zack, it's not their fault that Michigan is losing those players. They did everything they could. We'll just have to wait and see what happens
March 21st, 2012 at 11:13 PM |
If the height numbers are
If the height numbers are
If the height numbers are trustworthy at espn's draft history pages, there have been less than one PGs under six foot in the last five years. I won't tell you how many, but it's zero.
This has nothing to do with Michigan football.
March 22nd, 2012 at 7:29 AM |
Ty Lawson
Ty Lawson
But he was a multiple year starter with a NC ring.
Yes...that guy.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 AM |
And is arguably the fastest
And is arguably the fastest
And is arguably the fastest and quickest player in the NBA. And was a good college defensive player by that point. And had much better shooting percentages than Trey. And he STILL didn't go until 18th in the first round because of his height.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 AM |
Shrinkage
Shrinkage
His draft profile lists him at 6'1": http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/players/_/id/19034/ty-lawson
But I see that his player profile shows him as 5'11."
George Costanza can sympathize.
This has nothing to do with Michigan football.
March 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 AM |
And if Michigan lists him at
And if Michigan lists him at
And if Michigan lists him at 5'11", he's either that height or shorter. He's definitely not 6'1".
I love the guy as a college point guard, but his comparables either didn't get drafted at all, didn't get drafted in the first round, or best case scenario went in the latter half of the first round after staying several years and having great college careers. Jameer Nelson's actually a decent comp for what Trey could turn out to be, but Nelson stayed 4 years, led a smaller school to within a shot of the Final Four (amusingly, KO'd by a shot from another dinky point guard, John Lucas III, who for the first time this year is actually getting some run with an NBA team and contributing, and only getting that shot due to injuries), and won several National Player of the Year awards his last season. And still didn't get drafted until the 20th slot, because he's a 6' point guard.
I think this will all be moot because the advisory board is likely going to tell him he's got no shot at the first round and will tell him to stay in school. And to work on 1) his defense (for things he can do without team practice, workouts to try to improve his agility and quickness would help there), and 2) his shot.
March 22nd, 2012 at 12:21 AM |
I feel like the NFL and NBA
I feel like the NFL and NBA
I feel like the NFL and NBA draft advisory boards tell about 60 - 70 kids each year they "could" be a first round pick, and then many go late or undrafted. Major sham.
March 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 AM |
I'm amazed at how many kids
I'm amazed at how many kids
I'm amazed at how many kids fall for the "late first round" line. I guess they get to the kids before they stay in college long enough to learn how to do the math.
In such a cynical, sarcastic society, oftentimes looking for the negative on anybody or anything, if you're fortunate enough to spend five minutes or 20 minutes around Tim Tebow, your life is better for it. -Thom Brennaman
March 22nd, 2012 at 12:56 AM |
$
$
Why would he wait? Don't say to make more coin, because that is not likely if he doesn't grow rapidly. He could also get hurt or have a bad season. If I was him I would wait, but I am over 20. I wouldn't trade a great education, experience, and maybe a possibility to move up a round.
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March 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 AM |
Totally agree
Totally agree
It's much harder to turn down the money for these younger kids. If I were 19-20, I would probably take my chances and leave to. If true, this is unfortunate for Michigan, but I wish him well-whatever bs does.
March 22nd, 2012 at 1:25 AM |
We asked who Burke's backup would be next year...
We asked who Burke's backup would be next year...
Answer: Will Bynum
March 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 AM |
Don't get it...
Don't get it...
Education = Guaranteed
NBA = Play bench warmer, average 1.2 pt's/game, get dropped in 2 seasons.
Just because you get drafted doesn't mean a 20 yr career, A degree gives you security for employment if things don't workout. Then again, I didn't grow up thinking that playing a professional sport was my "ticket" to success
In Hoke we trust...
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 AM |
Just a kid with a
Just a kid with a
Just a kid with a dream.
But seriously, he should stay. If he was football or hockey I would be more understanding, but basketball career-ending injuries just dont seem as common. The seasoning he would get from an extra year prob outweighs that risk.
But as a risk-averse young man who has worked extremely hard at something all his life, I can see why he would want to start to get paid for it. Damn. I just hope whatever happens that it works out for him bc he's a tremendous player.
So, $25k in first contract year for an agent to convince a kid to come out early. Do it several times and the dolla-dolla bills add up quick. The future of player and his family are easy sacrifices for an agent's personal financial gain.
"Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn't dead."