yeah, Gerry DiNardo isn't very smart. i think we can learn just as much from his comments as from the questions asked by the little girl in the MGoBoard post OT: New Vanderbilt coach grilled by reporter
BTN Practice Visit Twitter Dump
The Big Ten Network stopped by a Michigan practice and did their usual suite of impressions that may or may not mean anything. They totally could mean something and it's the preseason so you'll jump on the barest morsel of information, so here they are.
This year the quantity and quality of the observations are significantly reduced, FWIW. Last year there was a fourth guy (Griffith, I think) tweeting stuff and it seemed like they got more information out of it. UPDATE: Okay, Griffith was there. He updated later than everyone else; I've added them in.
Players Of Note
Robinson is the one guy who can beat you. D Gardner is also really impressive. D Morgan, Q Washington stood out among young defenders.
Hurrah positive Quinton Washington mention. Also, leave Desmond Morgan alone: he is not a fullback yet.
UM Prac - Good day today Smith,Gallon,Cox,Countess,Grady,Shaw,Wilkins,Ash,Black,Schofield , Washington,Lewan,Watson,Koger,Eddins
Okay, that's like half the team, including Steve Watson—who is never going to play—doghouse member Kenny Wilkins, and walk-on (and not even the hyped walk-on) Chris Eddins. At least you see Washington there too.
@BTN_Michigan Other freshman that will see playing time CB Blake Countess, CB Raymon Taylor, LB Desmond Morgan, DE Brennen Beyer
There Is No Running Back
Borges said he hasn't had a clear stand-out at RB. Wants to try to find one - but he hasn't emerged. Lots of options there, though.
UM Practice - No veteran running back has really separated himself from the pack. Rawls has had a great camp and may be in the mix.
Mattison talked about decision to leave Ravens - said he loves developing kids - taking them from freshman yr to making the NFL.
Just leaving Michigan practice. The staff is really impressive - a lot of teaching and a lot of feedback in the practice.
Pro Style Transition Promises And Fear
Borges made it clear he is going to try to utilize all of D Robinson's skills - even if it means running stuff that he doesn't typically run
UM Prac -Integrating two different off may be much more difficult than I first thought. It's will be a challenge and interesting to watch
That's ominous. Grab-baggin' it?
UM Prac - Regardless of what the Michigan O will look like Denard looks like a vet and has great body language. He was a lot of fun on set
Gerry DiNardo Doesn't Actually Watch Football Games
UM Prac-Teams in the B1G that run the ball the best do a certain blocking drill. UM did it today - entire team playing with better leverage
This isn't entirely clear but his previous tweet is about how practice is very different so the implication is that Michigan did not do this blocking drill a year ago. Michigan led the league in YPC one year ago even though they played with turrible leverage and ran like 70% of the time.
UPDATE: there's a story that makes this clear, with Griffith talking about this same mysterious drill:
"One of the things I hadn’t seen in a (Michigan) practice recently is when you see one of the best running teams in the league and the drills they do; I saw those drills at Michigan. That’s an indication they’re going in the right direction.”
This quote will be fun when Michigan's YPC drops by a yard this year. I mean, no one thinks Rodriguez didn't need to go but the least you can give the guy is he knows how to put together a rushing offense.
Gerry DiNardo Puts Together Lists Of Words
UM Prac - Defense will improve significantly - because of offense scheme, coaching emphasis, simplicity, different packages, and pressure.
So, that's everything. Including "offensive scheme." Also including both "simplicity" and "different packages." I wouldn't be surprised if DiNardo believes that few possessions == good defense. He is very old and a terrible football coach. It seems like DiNardo hated Rodriguez; before he even got to practice he was talking about how you have to run the I-form to play defense.
UM Prac- No surprise prac was much different than recent past.More emphasis on Kick Game (Brady coached it),emphasis on D (Brady coached it)
Our defensive head coach coached the defense. Last year our offensive head coach coached the offense. This year Brady Hoke, who knows jack about kicking, is looking at the people kicking the ball.
WTF, Gerry DiNardo?
UM Prac-defending I form w/o a dynamic TB & no designed QB run plays is a problem.OSU has done it the last 3 yrs. & struggled vs the best D.
Either DiNardo meant "O" at the end or he meant "running" at the beginning. It seems like the former from the context, which means he thinks Michigan running the I-Form is dumb, except it makes the defense better… except it makes the offense worse… this is how you have a losing record at LSU.
who are more qualified to talk about what works in the Big Ten than DiNardo is. A 3-21 record in conference play, 4 wins against I-AA teams and CMU, and an "upset" of an Oregon team that finished 5-6 (although it's still impressive to win in Eugene, that's a scary place to play a road game) ... if anything, they should preface his segments with something like "And now, advice from a guy who knows all about losing in the Big Ten..."
He's gone! If some people don't start to let this go I have a feeling the mgocardiologists are going to be a busy bunch.
DiNardo and GERG are proof that it's who you know and not what you know. Jeebus.
GERG sucks at coaching and didn't deserve a job..and yet got one just because of his connections. Now if only I could remember the name of the idiot who gave him the said job....
has a superbowl ring too. I rest my case.
than a OC or a DC. Thank you for proving my point.
have you ever looked at the talent he had on that superbowl team? Not like he actually had to do much coaching...
Take a look at anywhere he coached.. Texas he did well because his defense was loaded with NFL talent as well.. every other place it proved he couldn't develop talent regardless of scheme
That one is a shot at RR.
RR did some things very well. One of the things is running the football.
For the most part, the tailbacks did okay.
It's just the best tailback was never the one that Rodriguez gave the majority of snaps.
2008: McGuffie had 118 carries to Minor's 103, but Minor averaged 5.2 YPC and McGuffie only 4.1
2009: The top three running backs all rushed for over 5 yards per carry
2010: Vincent Smith had 136 carries to Shaw's 75, but Shaw averaged 5.4 YPC and Smith only 4.4. Additionally, Fitzgerald Toussaint and Michael Cox also had better YPC averages.
Is one of the RBs on your fantasy team or something? Why does it matter who got the rushing yeards?
Does it matter how the RB's did? Rich Rod had a good rushing fame. It doesn't matter who carried the ball.
**game. Damn IPhone, can't see even edit.
Michigan's 2010 team rushing stats: 13th nationally with 238.54 ypg, 3rd in the B1G behind Illinois (246.08 ypg) and Wisconsin (245.69 ypg).
Are you seriously trying to argue that we didn't run the ball pretty well last year?
In 2008 Minor was reportedly unhappy that coaches were willing to give frosh burn which carried over into how he practiced. Also allegedly had the dropsies in practice. Then he got over it. His workload progression bears this out.
Four carries vs Utah, one carry vs Miami, three carries vs ND, two carries vs Wisky. Then started vs PSU and carried 23x, then 15x for MSU, then 24x against Purdue. 14 carries through 3 quarters vs Minnesota, then injured. Missed NW game. 14 carries vs tOSU.
2009 numbers were inflated as a result of the game vs Baby Seal U. Even Grady averaged 9+ ypc. Smith averaged almost 10. Cox 7.5; Shaw, 8.1. Michigan gained 461 yards on the ground that game.
In 2010 Cox reportedly didn't play a lot as he forgot his assignments; ran up a lot of yards vs Bowling Green.. Toussaint had a lingering shoulder injury. Michael Shaw missed games with injuries.
Difficult to give the "best tailback the majority of snaps" when they're injured/cannot recall who to pick up in a blitz.
Kids can tell when you're wrong. If I were a junior like Brandon Minor and I saw inferior players (like Shaw and McGuffie) getting a lot of carries, I would be pissed, too. It would be one thing if Minor had a bad attitude, then came in and stunk up the joint. It's quite another when he knew he was the best player, proved it repeatedly, and still had to watch McGuffie and Shaw go down on first contact.
I'm not saying it's a perfect mindset. But if you play the right guy in the first place, you don't have to worry about pissing people off.
Idk, I didn't think it took too much framing. LOLZ @ you framing everything Brian says as unabashed support of RR.
Ah yes, because when a guy says that the coaching staff is doing things differently than the past few years and intimating rather brazenly that it will make the team better at playing football, that totally isn't a shot at the past coach.
Man, posts like this drive me insane. Yes, this blog was definitely more pro-RR/reserved about Hoke than some would have liked, but don't dismiss the appearance of unsubstantied attacks on RR by a no-talent hack of a former head coach as sour milk.
If he had said something like this: "coaches this year really bring a lot of energy to the table and are doing things differently. Let's see if this translates to more wins on the field." I think that is a lot less of an attack on RR but still has the same basic concept.
been fired. The man is as talented as they come for his style of offense, but the man was as vacant as they come in regards to how to improve a defense.
If he woulda just stayed content with WVU or being an offensive coordinator, he never would have been fired, etc.
On to the true D-minded coach who remembers tradition and what huddles are/why they are useful in keeping your horrible ranked defense more fresh on the field.
With the new staff I could see us doing the impossible and winning the B1G right off the bat with Hoke. He brings the fire back and reminds the team that they are on their way to becoming a very tough D in addition to what should be a very tough O to defend. Look how many PPG we avg.ed the past 2 years, and then look at that horribly horribly bad PPG and YPG that our D gave up.
We will be a tough team to beat right out of the gate with Hoke.
I think the last tweet posted is an example of the limitations of the twitter character limit. I literally had to read it 3 times to kind of understand what he might be getting at.
@GuinnessStar Woolfok looked good. Moving around well. If they can stay healthy secondary has a chance. Blake Countess is impressive
I hate Gerry DiNardo.
I've always hated Gerry DiNardo.
I will always hate Gerry DiNardo.
Hate is a strong word?...not nearly strong enough.
Why? If Rawls is the best back then why is that a bad thing?
Keep and eye on
I was reading that tweet and just shook my head. Absolutely atrocious. I understand the lack of punctuation and capitalization in today's social media, but come on... keep and eye...that's just baby town frolics. Also,-1 to myself for being an anal grammar nazi.
When will the Michigan practice air on the B1G Network?
According to the network's website, the BTN Michigan Preview will air on Monday, August 22 (next Monday) at 8 p.m. and 10:30 p.m. (ET). They might repeat later.
Robinson is one guy who can beat you? No shit, Sherlock!
Can I have a BTN job??
"The" one guy, as in the only guy on offense that can beat you.
I'm not standing up for the intelligence of the media guys from the BTN, but the two statements have entirely different meanings.
so I'm curious about the running game from last year to this year - we often mention the astounding YPC from last season's offense & how we expect that to decrease this year. is that metric alone enough to conclude that the running game will be 'less effective,' or would it be more accurate to call it 'less productive overall'?
I wonder this because I can't help suspecting that our YPC last year was inflated greatly by running all over weak opponents in the first half of the season, while the effectiveness was greatly reduced against formidable B1G opponents (& So Miss).
I feel like the usefulness of the running game will increase (eventually) even if the YPC goes down for several reasons ... firstly, timing: getting the hard yards at the clutch moments can be more important than the numbers show. secondly, the perssure that a more consistent running game can take off the passing side of the offense.
there are probably a lot more ways we could think up, but the bottom line is: is a lower YPC necessarily a bad thing, or a sign of a more balanced & effective attack?
& again thanks for covering all the twitter action, Brian!
I kind of think these guys aren't necessarily talking about YPC as a whole, but more running back production. I think that would make a lot more sense given what we saw last year.
I was going to say the same thing, but after I read the rest of DiNardo's tweets I couldn't live with myself defending someone that unintelligent.
I meant Mississippi State, I'm an idiot don't worry about it
In regards to lower YPC in Big Ten games, yes. Against ND, UMass, and BG, Michigan had YPCs of 7.02, 6.76, and 8.32 respectively. That's pretty ridiculous. Th eproblem of course, is that, save for the ridiculous Indiana game (10.61 YPC wha), Michigan only once went over 5 YPC for the rest of the season, against Penn State (5.55). The low point was then, weirdly, Purdue (3.67) and not weirdly, Miss. State (3.52). Rodriguez and Co. only attempted 25 runs in that game, however, compared to the 55 in Purdue.
Purdue was in the rain, which makes it a little bit of an outlier.
In 2007, Michigan averaged 0.6 ypc against Ohio State. 1.9 ypc against Wisconsin. 2.5 ypc against Illinois, and 3.0 against Penn State (the other teams in the top half of the Big Ten that year). They hit well over 6 ypc against Minnesota and Eastern. The 2010 offense wasn't unique in that the team ran the ball much more effectively against bad teams than against good ones. Overall though, they were ridiculously effective on the ground (1.6 ypc better, 1,000 extra yards, and 15 extra TDs in comparison to 2007).
Nope, not at all an outlier. Every team in the country does this, unless you are Eastern. In which case, poor you, pray for Ron English to leave.
I think the other thing breaking down YPC and offense per play can do is to show which games the turnovers and the defense took a probable victory and turned it into aargh.
I agree that running over mediocre opponents boosts one's rushing stats, but that is true for every team in America. If you factor out the MAC-rifices-type games, I'm guessing most teams' YPC goes down. The fact remains that despite having a first-year QB and some less-than-stellar RBs, UM had one of the best rushing offenses in the country. I do think that the numbers last year hid a bit of mediocrity when it came against elite squads, but at the same time this team did not struggle last year because of the offense. And while a slight drop in YPC probably doesn't mean a drop in overall offensive effectiveness, if UM tries to line up and run over teams with vanilla sets they are going to be hammered, and that could be for a couple of seasons.
You need intelligent people trained in communicating to be good reporters. Coaches and players aren't necessarily good analysts just because they've done it before. Yes twitter imposes a limit on what you can type, but that doesn't mean you should tweet something incomprehensible. I don't know if "blue tie talking head" is actually a trained reporter, but he doesn't look like a coach or a player. Compare how understandable his tweets are to the other two.
On a side note, where do most people read their twitter streams? Are you really getting these things over SMS, or do you all have smartphones and it's just data through the browser? I'm just wondering if there really is any revenue bump from getting people to read twitter. I don't doubt that it can be informative, if used correctly, just wondering if it actually makes someone any money?
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought DiNardo was talking nonsense in his tweets.
More DiNardo than you can eat.
Denard had 6.6 YPC because he usually had an extra blocker. The rest of the team averaged 4.7 YPC even when you take out the DE that stayed back to cover Denard on the Read Option. That would be good for 4th in the B1G.
I think Gerry DiNardo is an idiot just as much as the next guy, but to use the YPC to show that our team was the most effective at blocking is a little misleading.
Tate and Devin bring down the YPC in your number. Here is what the backs did last year (includes Teric Jones, doesn't include Kelvin Grady).
That is basically Mike Hart in terms of ypc (5.0 for his career) and as many rushing TDs as the entire team averaged during Hart's time in Ann Arbor (18 per season).
And of course that doesn't count the leading rusher in the Big Ten. Pretty good for a team playing a freshman at arguably the most important position on the line. With 4 starters back on the line and (hopefully) better health from the backs (Shaw, Fitz, and Smith were all banged up most of last year) they are going to squash people in the running game this year.
That's still 4th in the B1G and that's without taking into account 9 blockers vs. 10 defenders after you take the DE out of the play with Denard on the Read Option plays, which most teams don't do.
I'm not saying they weren't good; I'm just saying they weren't the best in the B1G.
I definitely don't think we had the best group in the conference last year. I do think there is very a good chance we'll have the best one this year, though.
Just an aside on the zone read thing, though. I got the impression that teams began just crashing down on the backs and saying "We're going to force Denard to take it every single time so we can hit him." Especially as the season progressed. Not sure if that was the case or if there were just blocking/execution/better defense issues, but it seemed like the backs couldn't get much momentum because teams wanted to force Denard to beat them on every play.