Home
supporting the Clint Eastwood State Fightin' John Waynes since 2011

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Brice's Recruiting
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Football Recruiting
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Get Yer Tickets

Find the best US sports betting sites on the web at onlinebetting.com. Sports wagering is getting more and more popular each year, so place your bets online today.

Enjoy online gambling? Why not try online poker or online roulette? Especially online roulette for real money. If you are going to play poker, then make sure you use the PartyPoker bonus code or PokerStars marketing code when signing up to these two poker giants.

If you're looking for online sports betting, Sportsbooks is your best option. Nothing else compares in variety and reliability.

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Always better to play free blackjack and free Flash slots online before making a purchase on any real online casino.

Beveled Guilt

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • An early look at Michigan men's tennis
    BlueDragon - 15 hours ago
  • Coach Beilein, Chris Webber, starry-eyed boys, and $100,000 worth of inspiration
    buddhafrog - 18 hours ago
  • The Blockhams in "SUPER BOWL XLVI"
    Six Zero - 1 day ago
  • Turnover Margin and Wins: Is there a Correlation? Analyzing College Football Turnover Margins Since 2006
    Maize_in_spartyland - 1 day ago
  • Michigan Hockey: Special Teams Breakdown
    CenterIce - 1 day ago
  •  
  • 1 of 8
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 2-5-12
    Ace - 5,124 views
  • The Blockhams in "SUPER BOWL XLVI"
    Six Zero - 1,852 views
  • Coach Beilein, Chris Webber, starry-eyed boys, and $100,000 worth of inspiration
    buddhafrog - 1,657 views
  • Michigan Hockey: Miami Preview
    CenterIce - 815 views
  • Give Blood, Save Lives, Beat MSU
    M Wolve - 809 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 2-5-12
    Ace - 27 comments
  • Coach Beilein, Chris Webber, starry-eyed boys, and $100,000 worth of inspiration
    buddhafrog - 16 comments
  • Diagramming the Powerplay
    CenterIce - 16 comments
  • Team Performance versus Scout Recruit Class Rank
    WolverineLake - 11 comments
  • Turnover Margin and Wins: Is there a Correlation? Analyzing College Football Turnover Margins Since 2006
    Maize_in_spartyland - 10 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 3
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Rivals 100 Live Chat
    1 replies
  • Un film dérangeant: Catlab-Buckeye-Urban-Tress
    19 replies
  • Michigan Football All-Hype Team
    42 replies
  • 2013 Rivals 100 Out
    86 replies
  • ESPN: Big Ten Considering a 4-Team Playoff
    54 replies
  • Semi-OT: MGoBookclub During this Offseason?
    38 replies
  • Mike Martin 500 lb. bench press
    43 replies
  • Mock Rock 2012
    23 replies
  • 2013 OT J J Gustafson (Dallas, TX) Offered
    17 replies
  • Tremendous: Dan Gibbs Interview
    33 replies
  • Laquon Treadwell visiting this weekend.
    24 replies
  • OT: Man donates SB bet to charity
    19 replies
  • OT - funny stuff
    31 replies
  • Video: Beilein Pre-Nebraska Presser
    5 replies
  • Iowa promotes from within for Phil Parker as DC
    7 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 14
  • ››
  • 2013 Rivals 100 Out
    86 replies
  • Michigan Football All-Hype Team
    42 replies
  • ESPN: Big Ten Considering a 4-Team Playoff
    54 replies
  • Mike Martin 500 lb. bench press
    43 replies
  • Un film dérangeant: Catlab-Buckeye-Urban-Tress
    19 replies
  • Semi-OT: MGoBookclub During this Offseason?
    38 replies
  • Rivals 100 Live Chat
    1 replies
  • Laquon Treadwell visiting this weekend.
    24 replies
  • Regents to discuss 2013 Winter Classic at Big House tomorrow
    28 replies
  • meta: a couple of site updates (mobile apps)
    37 replies
  • OT - funny stuff
    31 replies
  • Tremendous: Dan Gibbs Interview
    33 replies
  • Mock Rock 2012
    23 replies
  • OT: Rick's American Cafe
    95 replies
  • OT: Memphis to Big East in 2013
    28 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 14
  • ››
  • Michigan vs. Michigan State Basketball Open Thread
    510 replies
  • MBB vs. Indiana Open Thread
    327 replies
  • Jordan Diamond not to Michigan per Ondre Pipkins
    203 replies
  • Super Bowl Open Thread
    200 replies
  • Michigan - Miami(NTM) Hockey Open Thread (Also drinking, hoozah!)
    183 replies
  • Jordan Diamond Announcement: To Auburn
    181 replies
  • Friday Night Hockey, Beer, and General Drunken Foolishness Thread
    156 replies
  • OT: Dantonio says MSU got top player in MI
    136 replies
  • If you were negative recruiting against Michigan today....what would you say?
    132 replies
  • The "Five of Diamond's" theory
    126 replies
  • Red Wings and Drinking Open Thread
    110 replies
  • Hello: Dan Gibbs
    104 replies
  • Bielema thinks Meyer is a dirty recruiter
    100 replies
  • OT: Rick's American Cafe
    95 replies
  • New Commit Watch?
    95 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 14
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Team of the Week: Michigan

    “We were losing a bunch of one-goal games, and now we’re able to pull these games out,” Hunwick said. “It’s huge in the second half to know you can play in games like that.”

    0 comments
  • Talking tempo free

    good advice for journalists trying to gently introduce readers to better basketball stats

    0 comments
  • Play-by-Play Theater: Earliest disqualification

    a salute to Hawaii-New Mexico.

    0 comments
  • Despite Mitch McGary's slide, Michigan basketball's 2012 class rated higher than Michigan State's

    "I'm a big fan of (Robinson's) game in general. He's got a big, strong athletic body, he rebounds, he shoots well off the catch, and I think he'll also be a really good defender. He's a guy who I think has the potential to play in the NBA one day."

    1 comments
  • Shawn Hunwick and Lee Moffie named CCHA players of the week

    watch the end of year all conference teams ignore Hunwick. I give it 50-50.

    0 comments
  • Scouting Video: Zak Irvin scores 28 points versus Bowman Academy

    long, doesn't look as bouncy as GRIII

    0 comments
  • For Manningham, Catch of a Lifetime Was Years in the Making

    here's the plan: run downfield and grab it

    0 comments
  • eBay Watch: Schembechler Snaps!!

    various images of Bo losing it

    0 comments
  • Manningham delivers in Giants' Super Bowl win

    Difference in the game was the receivers.

    1 comments
  • Gunfire to gridiron: Zoltan Mesko's Super Bowl story

    "I grew up in communism until I was three and a half years old, lived through a revolution, while bullets were flying through our apartment on Christmas Eve," Mesko, now 25, told reporters in Indianapolis, which is hosting the NFL's showpiece for the first time.

    0 comments
  • Ondre Pipkins already embracing rivalry with Ohio State

    They run their mouth, and then when they meet up with the belly of the beast -- I call myself that because I am -- then they want run away. When it comes to reality, they want to run away."

    1 comments
  • Ondre Pipkins is Brady Hoke's Next Intricately Rendered Sculpture in Ohio State's #1 Bathroom

    mgocatlab

    1 comments
  • 1996: Michigan-45 Michigan State-29 - YouTube

    WH

    0 comments
  • Hunwick named national player of the month

    on fiah

    1 comments
  • Big Ten: 'Legends' and 'Leaders' staying as league's division names for 2012

    just over half of people actually like them, which just goes to show that just over half of people need to be shot into the sun.

    4 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 3
  • ››
more

Bring Out Your Dead

By Brian — March 23rd, 2009 at 12:40 PM — 13 comments
Filed under:
  • lolmsm
  • ann arbor news

Jebus:

aanews-dead

via mvictors.

The news about the News:

The Ann Arbor News will close in July and will be replaced by a Web-based, media company called AnnArbor.com, Laurel Champion, publisher of The News, announced in a 9 a.m. meeting with staff.

Ah but not so fast: the "web based company" will be run by the same people, hire some of the same people, and put out print editions twice a week plus print a "total market coverage" thing, whatever that means, once a week. This is basically a rehash of the Free Press/News changes with some extra frippery I assume is a way of avoiding Booth Newspaper's longstanding no-layoffs pledge. Or something else that has to do with financial wizardry. In any case, the way the story is framed—by the newspaper itself!—is a little dramatic.

If you're interested in some serious back and forth sniping, check out Jim Carty's blog. Journo commenters can't just call you a d-bag, they have to write an article-length comment to do it. Fun for the whole family.

As for the Michigan sports upshot… eh. Chances are the new web-based company will focus about as much on Michigan sports as the existing newspaper; they'll actually have more motivation to do so as an online-oriented product.

I did love that mere days after interviewing Dylan of UMHoops for a story that mentioned he authored a Michigan basketball blog but didn't link to or even name it, the News managed to cram no fewer than eight links to their new URL in the story announcing the News' demise. Dips. I'm nofollowing links to the Ann Arbor News for the next week, starting with the above.

The above amply demonstrates that the current leadership of the News is extraordinarily ill-prepared to make this transition. They fail to understand the currency of the internet, that linking out spurs linking in. Trying to trap readers in a box made of a million holes is archaic; I wonder how long it will take for someone to thwack Unfrozen Caveman Newspaper Exec in the back of the head and stage a coup.

(Sorry if the tag seems insensitive; it's just what media discussion goes under around these parts.)

  • Login or register to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 PM | Well (Score:1)
casmooth
casmooth's picture
Joined: 11/21/2008
MGoPoints: 159

Well that's never a good thing. I never really read the weekday papers, but the weekend editions, yes. At least I will still have my Sunday paper...

HAIL.

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 PM | I disagree with this, seeing (Score:1)
JeremyB
JeremyB's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 417

I disagree with this, seeing how they (most notably) refused to link to Mgoblog when Brian broke the story of Lloyd's retirement. John Heuser, who wrote the article, dismissed it as a "fan site" and fan sites lack credibility after all.

Which doesn't change that he got the event, date, and time correct, and that they used this info for their story. The MSM was already legitimizing blogs by adding some of their own and referencing others (but not by name), so why not go the full step?

In the age of minimal barriers to entry, content and information win out. The lolmsm and AA News could've remained relevant and good at their old jobs by staying better than the competition just as Brian has done. But now they're diving in headfirst after suggesting that the water is plenty deep, the depth of the water isn't important anyway, and swimming is for dorks.

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 PM | The Ann Arbor News article (Score:1)
JeremyB
JeremyB's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 417

The Ann Arbor News article about umhoops has a photo gallery embedded in the same online version that couldn't be bothered to link to or mention umhoops. Many MLive articles that are written for print are mirrored online with relevant links added.

Yes, without the local media there would be no mgoblog. Brian has said this himself, and I'm probably paraphrasing this poorly, that the reason he founded it was because there was nothing but objective analysis and a lack of passionate reaction among Michigan coverage.(I can't find the relevant comment thread about that right now.)

As for the AA news, read Carty's blog post where he describes the projects the News undertook during his time, most of which suggest gross mismanagement, to say the least, of approaches irrelevant to print journalism.

http://papertigernomore.blogspot.com/2009/03/dear-newhouse-journalism-no...

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 PM | It's not a conspiracy, it's (Score:1)
wile_e8
wile_e8's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2215

It's not a conspiracy, it's just a sign that the people in charge of the AA News and now the website probably don't have a good handle on how the internet works. If they can't even bother to name the blog written by the person they are writing about, let alone link to it on the web version, how are they going to be successful in a medium in which the entire currency is links? This combined with some of the anecdotes provided on Carty's blog paint a picture of management deciding to make money by having the current writers post on a website instead of actually figuring out how to be successful. All those bloggers do is post on a website, right? People who would have actually researched a good plan wouldn't miss small crap like the link.

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 PM | Yeah, I know there is a bit (Score:1)
wile_e8
wile_e8's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2215

Yeah, I know there is a bit of "I make big" to my post. But in one case we have several instances of management trying to save their journalism business by firing journalists and having the remaining journalists do gimmicks on the cheap that failed due to poor management. In the other case, we have them missing one of the key elements of their newest gimmick. Now this doesn't mean they are destined to fail and can't save this, but it doesn't doesn't inspire confidence that the newest gimmick is going to go any better than the previous ones.

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:24 PM | Twelve. (Score:1)
JeremyB
JeremyB's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 417

If you count mentions of annarbor.com, not just hyperlinks, then the number goes up to 12.

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 PM | Not sure how nofollow works (Score:1)
QB Waggle
QB Waggle's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 130

Not sure how nofollow works exactly, but it looks like Brian applied it to the mvictors link in the post. Does that have the intended effect?

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:53 PM | I can't speak to the (Score:1)
LandonC
Joined: 07/24/2008
MGoPoints: 1742

I can't speak to the leadership abilities at the Ann Arbor News, but at least they have the good sense to be separate from MLive. I've never understood how a national newspaper company can have such a pathetically designed website. They need to take a look at websites like the new york times and msnbc.com. News websites excel when, ironically enough, they imitate the look of a newspaper. Allow the reader to scan quickly for the most important news and click through efficiently for particular topic areas. MLive has never been very good at either.

  • Login or register to post comments
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 PM | The MLive concept is left (Score:1)
The Squid
The Squid's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 158

The MLive concept is left over from the late 1990s when everyone was trying to be a "portal".

Advance Publications, who owns Booth and thus the AA News, as well as a bunch of other papers, uses the exact same format for its other papers - the Cleveland Plain-Dealer is cleveland.com, the Newark Star-Ledger is nj.com and so on.

I've never really understood why they thought that, when it came to the paper's online presence, it was a good idea to chuck out a strong brand like the AA News in favor of something as tepid as MLive.com. Maybe they were trying to differentiate between the kinds of content available in print and online - which seems to me to be mostly a distinction made by media industry people and not by consumers.

  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Drupal, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.