Bonus Hockey Recruiting Bits Comment Count

Brian

So yesterday I wandered over to USHR, which is pretty much the only reliable source of information on college hockey recruits aside from some regular posters on Hockey's Future, and wandered around a bit. They're a subscription service that frees up their content after a while and I ran across some newly interesting assessments from this summer's "Select" camps, which are nationwide things that attempt to collect the nation's best talent. The 17s don't have NTDP kids and a lot of OHL kids either don't show or apparently embarrass themselves doing so—Max Iafrate was a fighting, dumb-penalty taking machine—so this is not a comprehensive ranking. It's not far off for college-bound kids at the 15 and 16 levels, though.

Anyway, persons of interest from the Select 15s:

4. J.T. Compher (#10 Red) 6-0/160 - 2-5-7 -- From Team Illinois Midget Minor. Aggressive and good-sized, with a sense of the game and anticipation. Competitive, too.  Blocks shots. Plans to play in USHL for Waterloo this season. [Ed: Compher ended up sticking with midget minor.]

27. Tyler Motte (#18 Kelly Green) 5-10/165 - 3-2-5 -- From Honeybaked. Started slowly, but picked up the pace.

Compher's Team Illinois teammate Gabe Guertler was ranked #2 because of he's "a dynamic offensive player who made things happen every shift," FWIW. If Michigan can swing a package deal there that would be nice.

The Select 16s just had one player listed but it was a big one:

1. Boo Nieves (#12 Forest Green) 6-3/185 -- 1-1-2 -- Fascinating player. Has size and explosive speed. His ability to turn a d-man - to just blow past guys -- is breathtaking. Some people, notably the NTDP, have criticized Nieves' lack of engagement, which was actually not bad in Rochester. But consider the context: a 6'3" kid who can absolutely fly and is playing midget minor is expected to do one thing -- get the puck from one end to the other, and fast. And, man, can he ever do that. That said, several times we saw Nieves fly down the wing, turn the D, cut in -- and suddenly find himself in so tight that his options had dwindled severely. It's like the rink is too small for those strides of his. When Nieves gets to Kent, and plays with older kids for the first time, and works with Matt Herr, he will learn to use his speed to maximum advantage, to curl back and find space, etc., the way a pitcher uses his off-speed stuff to set up his fastball (sorry, it's July and 95 degrees). At the end of the day, Nieves has all the tools - size, big-time speed, nice hands, and a ridiculously high level of athleticism. Sometimes, though, the perfect is the enemy of the good, and Nieves needs to realize that it's OK to make mistakes, that it's through mistakes that you discover what you can become. We thought Nieves, and his highly talented linemates (Quentin Shore and Zach Stepan) were much too fine here, almost paralyzingly so - and they couldn't buy a goal. Nieves has high first round potential for the 2012 draft and, over the next two years, will, à la Chris Kreider, have every single game of his dissected. He's an exciting talent. It will be fun to see how good he can become. (Named to team going to Switzerland.)

Apparently Nieves's stock has not fallen much in the aftermath of his controversial omission from the NTDP. He's playing at a prep school under that Matt Herr so I imagine he's not an OHL threat, either—will be nice to actually get one of these top end guys on campus.

And the Select 17s:

8. Justin Selman (#18 Gold) 6-0/192 - 2-3-5 -- From NJ Avalanche; going to Des Moines. Really made a statement. Physical, hard-working two-way forward. A late '93. Not a natural scorer but does everything else.

Sounds like an Eric Nystrom, though undoubtedly with less hype—Nystrom was a surprising top-ten pick.

The other takeaway: be deathly afraid of Boston College. I checked out Chris Heisenberg in the aftermath of reading all these reports to see if various big names were available and it was all BC, BC, BC. Michigan is probably looking for another forward in the 2011 class, and I wonder if they'll try to pick off one of Michigan State's fairly good recruits now that Comley is out the door and no one knows who will replace him. They've got a little overage guy who is putting up a lot of points in the USHL (Matt Berry) and Shattuck C Tanner Sorenson got a good review from USHR—fourth in the Select 17s group. Either might be put off to 2012 at MSU; Michigan has room now. Could pull the reverse Lerg.

BONUS POSSIBLE SKETCH ALERT: Wisconsin's been the SEC of college hockey for a while with their controversial oversigning tactics and now Ohio State has hired a branch off that coaching tree. Mark Osiecki flat-out cut three players before the season, suggesting they weren't putting in sufficient work. Okay, maybe so. But while Ohio State graduates ten skaters and a goalie they're bringing in fifteen freshman, which would bulge the roster to 31 players. Watch to see if anyone gets cut over the summer.

Comments

Michigan Arrogance

February 25th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^

fifteen freshman? HALOL.

 

that's equivalent to a football class of like 50. most hockey classes have 4-6 kids... Michigan famously had HUGE freshman classes of 9 in 1993-94 (morrison et al) 1997-98 (surprise title run with a young team) and 2001-02 (the cold war team wiith a ton of FR) and 11 in 05-06 (Mitera, JMFJ etc), IIRC.

JustGoBlue

February 25th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^

the current seniors.  We have: Scooter, Langlais, Carl, Winnett, Rust, Louie,Hunwick (a walk-on and a red-shirt and coming back, but he came in with them) and Hogan.  And we lost Llewellyn, Patches and Palushaj.  That's 11. And we did have 11 in '05-'06 as well.  And those include goalies.  And we recruit expecting to lose players to the NHL.  15 is enormous.  Some are probably walking-on, but it can't be THAT many.  The best explanation is definitely that Osiecki will ask some of them to spend another year in the USHL.  But then again, this is an assisstant from Wisconsin that now coaches at OSU.  And as we all know there's absolutely nothing slimey that could possibly go on with that combination...

tjyoung

February 26th, 2011 at 12:56 AM ^

I grew up playing with and against JMFJ, Mitera, and Hunwick.  I clearly wasn't as good as them or else I would have chosen a different path in life/college, but it was fun to say I played with them.  It's kind of strange reading about the 15/16/17 year olds today who played for the same teams I used to play for right here on this blog.  Pass the torch, I guess.

Trebor

February 25th, 2011 at 1:54 PM ^

I've read various reports that he's probably going to the OHL, but I would kill for Michigan to pick up Jacob Trouba for the 2012 class.

Also, hockey recruiting has always made me laugh with how young some of these kids commit to teams (I know Michigan has done it before, most notably with JMFJ). Maine has a commit who was born in April of 1996. Things like that make me feel so old.

WCHBlog

February 25th, 2011 at 2:56 PM ^

I'd be very surprised if that ended up being a 15-person class. There's likely a couple kids that will be asked to play another year of junior hockey before coming to Ohio State. Plus, two of the recruits are goalies, with one who will be coming in as a junior in terms of eligibility. So essentially, they'll have probably 9 or 10 freshman skaters at most, which is big, but not unheard of.