yesterday on college football live rece asked bob a email form a fan who is the under rated team in college football and bob said Michigan and rece said he thinks there overrated.
i like 'em both
I agree. Good grammar is your friend.
The 2007 offense wasn't "horrible", as evidenced that 7 starters would go on to start in the NFL. They didn't score many points, but Michigan also had possibly the most dominating defense in the modern era. They lacked a deep threat, because Streets couldn't catch that year (he had a cast on his hand), but made up for it by spreading the ball all over. Also, there is only one year since that Michigan ran for as many yards - Thomas's senior year.
Griese was terrible prior to 97. He was awful in the bowl game loss to Alabama, to the point that his inability to manage the clock at the end of the first half, the terrible pick-six int he threw to a d-lineman and his falling down on a QB throw-back pass led directly to the loss.
For him to come back in 1997 and play as well as he did, was quite a turn around. Part of me thinks that his run in with authority at Scorekeepers and the resulting punishment focused him on the opportunity he had available to him.
I dont know, but if someone with a history of alcohol related infractions showed up at work and said they hurt their ankle when they tripped over their dog, I'd go ahead and assume they were eating Taco Bell while walking up the stairs shitfaced and slipped on some melted cheese.
On May 5, Griese tripped on a steep driveway at teammate Terrell Davis' house and was knocked unconscious, bruising his face. "
for griese to win the superbowl as a grizzled veteran who gets one last shot and then we can make a movie about him to replace 'rudy' as the default college football movie.
Famous dad, growing up around the NFL. But has to walk on at michigan, is nearly kicked off the team, leads them to a MNC with his dad calling the game, replaces john elway, struggles, is a journeyman, and finally wins the big one. And the ending scene is him tossing the football around with his own kid.
There was never anything definitive, but all of the various items: Scorekeepers, the tripping on the stairs, the DUI, a fight he had a teammates party (I seem to recall this); seemed to suggest he has a problem. Its too bad.
It looked like he had everything going in the right direction. Obviously 1997. He was very good in 1999 (the year after Elway retired). I thought that he made the Pro Bowl that year. And then his tall WR gets hurt early in the next season and then the wheels fell off.
The "X guys went on to play in the NFL down the road, so that proves it was good" argument can be misleading. The fact that many of our '97 offensive starters eventually made the NFL does not necessarily mean that they were NFL-caliber during that season. For example, Hutchinson, Backus and Brandt were all redshirt freshmen. I don't think they were then at the level they would reach in 2000, their senior year. Our starting RB (Chris Howard) was below-average for a starting Michigan back. Our starting QB (Griese) threw for less than 200 yards per game. We started one WR (Streets) with dislocated fingers on each hand, and another (Shaw) who never sniffed the NFL. Only at TE (Tuman) and FB (Floyd) were we really talented, IMO.
I would say that the '97 offense was good at avoiding mistakes*, but otherwise was nothing special. Our leading rusher gained 938 yards. Our leading receiver gained 476 yards. Our overall ypg and ppg averages were very pedestrian. Not once all year did we score 40 points. Fortunately, we had one of the best D's in school history to carry most of the load.
(*Well, aside from the ND, Iowa and OSU games, anyway.)
Jeff Backus and Steve Hutchinson both started 12 games that year.