Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings: 4th of July Weekend Comment Count

Tim

Additions to the commit list for the Maize and Blue means the rankings go on the front page. There was a ton of action across the league (plus future member and Michigan recurring opponent), with only Purdue and Indiana not grabbing any new ones.

Action since last rankings:

6-28-10 Notre Dame gains commitment from Ben Councell. Northwestern gains commitment from Matt Frazier. Illinois gains commitment from Reilly O'Toole.
6-29-10 Michigan gains commitments from Jack Miller and Kevin Sousa. Northwestern gains commitment from Zack Oliver. Wisconsin gains commitment from Derek Landisch.
6-30-10 Ohio State gains commitment from Nick Vannett. Nebraska gains commitment from Nicklas Sade. Iowa gains commitments from John Raymon and Ray Hamilton. Minnesota gains commitment from Samuel Oyenuga. Illinois gains commitment from Justin DuVernois.
7-1 Iowa gains commitment from Jake Rudock. Michigan State gains commitment from Joel Heath.
7-2-10 Ohio State gains commitment from Ron Tanner. Penn Satte gains commitment from Shawn Oakman.

Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings
Rank School # Commits Rivals Avg Scout Avg ESPN Avg
1 Ohio State 17 5.75 3.71 79.18
2 Notre Dame 12 5.64 3.50 73.17
3 Nebraska 13 5.62 3.08 70.46
4 Michigan 7 5.69 3.14 78.14
5 Michigan State 7 5.54 3.00 76.29
6 Indiana 18 5.49 2.33 72.11
7 Iowa 8 5.50 2.00 69.70
8 Northwestern 7 5.53 2.43 68.29
9 Purdue 5 5.34 3.00 70.00
10 Minnesota 6 5.42 2.00 65.67
11 Wisconsin 5 5.44 2.20 64.40
12 Illinois 6 5.27 2.17 60.50
13 Penn State 2 5.60 2.50 76.50

Rivals rankings have been converted to their "RR" scale, which is on a scale from about 5 to about 6.1. Unrated prospects are given a 5.1 rating, on par with the worst of any Big Ten commit last year. Scout is on the 5-star system, and ESPN uses grades out of 100.

#1 Ohio State - 17 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Michael Bennett DT 6.0 4 80
Braxton Miller QB 5.9 5 84
Kenny Hayes DE 5.9 4 78
Steve Miller DE 5.8 5 84
Nick Vannett TE 5.8 4 80
Brian Bobek OL 5.8 4 79
Chase Farris DE 5.8 4 79
Jeremy Cash S 5.8 3 80
Evan Spencer WR 5.7 4 81
DerJuan Gambrell CB 5.7 4 77
Jeff Heuerman TE 5.7 3 80
Joel Hale DT 5.7 3 79
Chris Carter OL 5.7 3 78
Devin Smith WR 5.7 3 76
Ron Tanner S 5.6 4 78
Tommy Brown OL 5.6 3 78
Antonio Underwood OL 5.6 3 75

Buckeyes pick up a couple highly-rated guys to stay atop the heap.

#2 Notre Dame - 12 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Ben Koyack TE 5.9 5 81
Matt Hegarty OL 5.9 4 83
Eilar Hardy S 5.8 4 79
Jordan Prestwood OL 5.7 4 80
Jarrett Grace LB 5.7 4 78
Tony Springmann OL 5.7 4 78
Conor Hanratty OL 5.6 4 76
Brad Carrico OL 5.6 3 77
Clay Burton DE 5.6 3 79
Ben Councell DE 5.6 3 NR
Matthias Farley CB 5.5 3 77
Kyle Brindza K NR NR NR

Notre Dame picks up a commit and moves ahead of Nebraska on the basis of average ranking. They have a better average by all three services.

#3 Nebraska - 13 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Tyler Moore OL 5.9 4 78
Bubba Starling QB 5.8 4 81
Jamal Turner QB 5.8 4 81
Ryne Reeves OL 5.8 4 79
Ryan Klachko OL 5.8 4 78
Tevin Mitchell CB 5.8 3 79
Zach Sterup OL 5.8 3 78
Kevin Williams DT 5.7 3 79
Dylan Admire OL 5.6 3 77
Daniel Davie S 5.5 2 NR
Aaryn Bouzos CB 5.4 2 76
Daimion Stafford S NR 3 NR
Nicklas Sade K NR NR NR

Nebraska picks up a kicker, which actually brings their ranking down to #2, as they're passed by Notre Dame. When a of their commits are ranked, they could move back ahead.

#4 Michigan - 7 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Brennen Beyer DE 5.8 4 79
Delonte Hollowell CB 5.8 3 79
Chris Rock DE 5.7 3 78
Shawn Conway WR 5.7 3 78
Greg Brown CB 5.7 3 77
Kevin Sousa QB 5.6 3 78
Jack Miller OL 5.5 3 78

Michigan picks up a pair of commits, helping keep them ahead of Michigan State. Don't be surprised if Sousa ends the year much more highly-rated.

#5 Michigan State - 7 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Lawrence Thomas LB 6.1 5 80
Connor Cook QB 5.7 2 76
Onaje Miller RB/Ath 5.6 4 78
Taiwan Jones Ath/LB 5.6 3 78
AJ Sims CB 5.6 2 78
Joel Heath DE NR 3 76
Paul Lang TE NR 2 68

Spartans pick up an under-the-radar DE in Joel Heath.

#6 Indiana - 18 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Raymon Taylor CB 5.8 3 77
Zack Shaw LB 5.8 2 76
Max Pirman LB 5.6 3 78
Jake Reed TE 5.6 3 77
Jalen Schlachter TE 5.6 3 75
Ralston Evans OL 5.6 3 74
Tre Roberson QB 5.6 2 76
Nick Stoner S 5.5 3 74
Kirk Harris OL 5.5 2 77
Kyle Kennedy LB 5.5 2 76
CJ Robbins DE 5.5 2 75
Mark Murphy S 5.5 2 NR
Kenny Mullen CB 5.4 3 74
Mike Replogle LB 5.4 2 74
Donte Phillips DE 5.4 2 74
Jay McCants WR 5.4 NR NR
Shafer Johnson DT NR 2 77
Nick VanHoose DB NR 2 74

Hoosiers still lead the way in number of commits, but their average ratings aren't so hot.

#7 Iowa - 8 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Austin Blythe OL 5.8 3 79
Ray Hamilton TE 5.7 3 79
JaCorey Shepherd WR 5.6 3 78
Jake Rudock QB 5.6 2 78
Marcus Grant WR 5.6 2 76
Henry Krieger-Coble WR 5.5 NR 78
Austin Vincent WR NR NR NR
John Raymon DE NR NR NR

Iowa had a couple big days in the middle of the week, but their average rating numbers didn't do so hot. Once all their commits are ranked, they should look much better.

#8 Northwestern - 7 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Sean Cotton S 5.7 3 79
Zack Oliver QB 5.6 3 78
Jarrell Williams CB 5.6 3 76
Shane Mertz OL 5.6 3 NR
Matt Frazier OL 5.6 2 NR
Mark Szott TE 5.5 2 77
Max Chapman DE NR NR 78

Northwestern bumped past Purdue on total commits, even though their average ratings are slightly lower. Once their guys are fully ranked, this should look better.

#9 Purdue - 5 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Russell Bellomy QB 5.5 3 78
Robert Kugler TE 5.5 3 78
Brandon Cottom LB 5.5 3 76
Michael Rouse DT NR 3 73
Randy Gregory DE NR 3 NR

Purdue stays behind Iowa on the basis of fewer commits with about the same averages. They slide behind Northwestern, because the 'Cats have about the same ratings among their top 5 commits, plus two more guys.

#10 Minnesota - 6 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Tommy Olson OL 5.7 2 79
Max Shortell QB 5.6 3 74
Quinn Bauducco LB 5.6 2 NR
Sam Rohr TE 5.4 2 74
Jephete Matilus LB NR 2 77
Samuel Oyenuga CB NR NR NR

Another week, another as-yet-unranked commitment for the Gophers.

#11 Wisconsin - 5 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Jake Keefer LB 5.8 3 78
Sam Arneson TE 5.7 2 78
Austin Maly TE 5.5 2 76
Eric Steffes TE NR 2 NR
Derek Landisch LB NR 2 NR

Badgers are seriously forming a recruiting class composed entirely of tight ends and linebackers. Behind Minnesota on the basis of fewer commits with approximately equal averages.

#12 Illinois - 6 Commits
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Zeph Grimes S 5.6 3 77
Chris O'Connor DE 5.4 3 75
Hunter Wells OL 5.3 3 NR
Reilly O'Toole QB NR 2 76
Marquise Mosley WR NR NR NR
Justin DuVernois K NR NR NR

The Illini are set for a big bump once all their commits are ranked.

#13 Penn State - 1 Commit
Name Position Rivals Scout ESPN
Shawn Oakman DE 5.8 3 77
Kyle Carter TE 5.4 2 76

Slightly less lol Penn State, but still some.

Comments

bluebyyou

July 2nd, 2010 at 5:04 PM ^

Am I the only one getting a bit nervous about what Brian Kelly might be able to do at ND with talent at a level that could only be dreamed of at Cinci?

bronxblue

July 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 PM ^

I'd be nervous offensively, but he still hasn't shown much ability to coach up a defense.  That obviously relies heavily upon assistant and position coaches, as Weiss's offenses (outside of the 3-9 season) were never the problem at ND.  I think Kelly is a good coach, but scoring 30 and giving up 24 won't return ND to glory.  

evilempire

July 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 AM ^

(like the current administration does). It shows the osu & michigan ave ranking as only 3.7 to 3.17.......but Osu has TEN 4 or 5 star committments, while michigan has ONE. Its only Osu' larger overall number of recruits (17) that makes things seem closer than they are. We better win this year, or lessor recruiting classes  will be the norm, and less talent will be a self fulfilling prophecy....

amaizenblueman97

July 3rd, 2010 at 1:40 PM ^

Coaches evaluate talent and select guys that fit their system.  Look at teams like BYU, TCU, Utah and Boise St. as far as star rankings go.  They shouldn't be able to stay on the same field as the "Big Boys" yet look what Utah did to Alabama to years ago and what Bose did to Oklahoma.  The rankings are purely subjective as is talent evaluation after the upper etchelon guys.  Some pan out and many don't.  Watched the Penn St. spring game replay last night and announcers complimented JoePa on recruiting athletes.  This is RR and staff's apparent strategy.  Recruit true athletes and then put them in a position that will be most advantageous to themselves and the team.  Win and we will get our share of 5 stars.  Until then, we will develop the athletes we have with the help of Barwis and company.

burntorange wi…

July 4th, 2010 at 4:28 PM ^

If u discount recruiting ranking, there's no reason to be posting comments on a recruiting thread. Everyone and their mother has heard the argument you employed before. Recruiting is something for fans to chat about during rhe offseason to sate our football necessity. It's just another thing to be competitive about. Everyone knows wins and losses aren't determined by your average * rankings, so please don't feel obliged to point it out. I wholeheartedly enjoy recruiting. Don't belittle it please.

Magnus

July 5th, 2010 at 4:45 PM ^

I suppose you could look at all the 2-star/3-star guys at TCU, BYU, Utah, and Boise St. to point out that recruiting rankings don't mean anything . . .

. . . or you could point to the 2-star/3-star guys at Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Toledo, Southern Mississippi, Tulane, Akron, Memphis, Southern Mississippi, Middle Tennessee State, Rice, Tulsa, Colorado State, Louisiana Tech, Florida Atlantic, etc. and see that yeah, maybe recruiting rankings mean something.

G Money

July 4th, 2010 at 10:27 PM ^

If we ever go to mountain west or big sky conference, I think talking about their recruiting ranks would be relevant.

If you believe Utah will have as good a record in the next 6 years after joining the pac 10 compared to the prior 6 years with the same level of recruits, I would disagree.

It's nice to win an impressive bowl game (not saying otherwise) after 4-6 weeks of prep, but if you want to be a major conference and win week-in and week-out, you need the talent.

If you really want to see how much Michigan fans should be concerned about recruit rank, you should:

1. Only look at major conferences (SEC, Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10...)

2. Look at teams' records versus top 50 teams. I really don't care if UW beat 4 super weak non-con teams. And quite honestly, when UM is playing like a UM should, they would rarely lose to a team outside the top 50.

3. Average the prior 5 classes recruit ranks

4. See if there is a correlation b/n rank and record. And probably, more relevant to our fans, see if there's a correlation at the top end. I wouldn't care if there is no correlation for the 5th-11th rank teams. Not relevant to where UM wants to be.