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By Brian — July 29th, 2009 at 10:28 AM — 18 comments
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While in Chicago, Tim took the opportunity provided by the Big Ten's roundtable section to ask players a couple of survey questions that have been hot topics in college football for the past few years. He only got to 19 of the 33 players before time went kaput, but 19 opinions are better than zero. The following is an unscientific survey.

Should We Have a Playoff?

YES: 9
NO: 7
ABSTAIN: 3

Two of the abstentions were vaguely pro-playoff, with one stating "a playoff will happen soon either way because that's what fans want"—ah, if only college football worked like that—and the second saying "something other than what we have now, not necessarily a playoff."

Would A Playoff Negatively Affect Your Schoolwork?

YES: 2
(MOSTLY) NO: 17

The two who said yes were pro-BCS. The rest either said probably not, or "not enough that a playoff shouldn't happen."

Should Players Be Paid?

YES: 12
NO: 7

Most of the guys said something along the lines of "just a little bit more money, not really a salary or anything." Nobody had even thought about whether EA should have to pay them for using their likenesses, but most said they guess it makes sense.

Who's The Best Player In The Big Ten?

Amongst a sea of solitary votes three guys leapt out:

ARRELIOUS BENN: 8
JUICE WILLIAMS: 3
TERRELLE PRYOR: 2

Your unofficial, dominant players' Big Ten offensive POY is Arrelious Benn, which will no doubt please Dr. Saturday.

Other bits from Tim

Most everyone though Ohio State or Penn State would win the Big Ten, and White Michigan State Receiver Named White mentioned (without knowing which media organization Tim was with, no less!) that Michigan was a good darkhorse candidate. I'm not sure whether he was being serious, talking up a rival, making fun of a rival's recent struggles, etc.

I didn't ask this question, but I wrote down the answer because I thought it somewhat relevant to Michigan: OSU TE Jake Ballard mentioned that Justin Boren would win in an all-out fight of the Buckeyes' football team, because he's the toughest. [Editor's note: who asks the question "what would happen if you guys all took PCP and started beating the hell out of each other?"]

Stevie Brown was pretty non-specific about defensive scheme, mostly saying they'll play multiple formations and the "hybrid" terminology has been a little overblown. They're just out there playing defense.

On Tate, Rodriguez said "If we have multiple guys who can win football games at quarterback, they'll all get the chance to play" (paraphrase), nothing specific about limiting carries, though the implication seemed to be that there were viable backup options if a QB did get hurt.

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:35 AM | Is anyone else worried that (Score:1)
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Is anyone else worried that Stevie Brown was the one who alluded to position specifics being less important.

Sounds like he of the missed assignment STILL hasn't figured out what exactly he's supposed to be doing out there.

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:38 AM | It was the name of the (Score:1)
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It was the name of the position that he was saying to not get too wrapped up in, not the responsibilities. He's basically just going to be a linebacker.

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 AM | Tim (Score:1)
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Sorry if you posted in another thread about this, but did the players mention Tate/Sheridan/Robisonson at all and their progress? I see Rich's comment above, but it would be nice to hear what the player had to say about our Qbs.

"Shiny. Let's be bad guys."

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:44 AM | I wonder (Score:1)
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I always wonder how much (if ever) players look at sites like this or Scout/Rivals.

I thought of that because I was wondering if any of the players (especially any of the Michigan players) happen to be aware of MGoPlayoff and what they think of it.

Personally I'm a big proponent of it. I do think about what other teams and other conferences would think of such a proposal.

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:48 AM | I thought that people said I was an idiot in the other thread (Score:1)
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When I said that both Benn and Juice were better than Pryor (for that CFN All-Big-Ten).

Damn... I'm pretty kick ass.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:50 AM | White MSU receiver named White, LOL (Score:1)
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My impression of White is that he's dead serious. Guys who had to walk on and earn a scholarship do not typically engage in trash talk or puffery.

Boren would win an all-out fight? Bitch please. Just insult him once or twice or make fun of his sucky little brother and he'll take his ball/s and go home, no doubt bitching about the lack of family atmosphere at that ther all-out fight.

Just once, I'd pay serious money to see Rodriguez say "I'll play whoever the hell I want to play at QB, whenever I want to play him, now get your bitch-ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie!"

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July 29th, 2009 at 12:33 PM | F'in Hilarious (Score:1)
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I bust out laughin at that one.

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July 29th, 2009 at 12:38 PM | "Where's my cheesy poofs!!" (Score:1)
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"I don't talk about the past; I create the future." - Dave Brandon

Posted from my HTC Evo. Screw your IPhone App!

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July 29th, 2009 at 11:00 AM | "A playoff will happen soon (Score:1)
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"A playoff will happen soon either way because that's what fans want" doesn't sound vaguely pro-playoff. If anything, it just sounds like he doesn't want to irritate pro-playoff fans.

Sportscenter.com raves: Sgt. Wolverine, "Michigan's biggest fan"!

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July 29th, 2009 at 11:06 AM | ergo (Score:1)
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That means that, according to an actual Buckeye, Barwis is tougher than any player on OSU's roster?

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July 29th, 2009 at 11:07 AM | Playoff assumptions (debateable statement coming) confounded. (Score:1)
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I find the unscientific, small sample of the player's opinions on whether to have playoffs interesting. While most MSM, Blog authors, and many fans believe that all/most players, as well as themselves, are screaming for the equity, logic and overall rightness of a playoff, this is a very small piece of anecdotal information that shows the reality is not that cut and dried. I recall a diary or post on this blog awhile ago that asked (paraphrased) "do you care if we ever have a playoff?" and being surprised at the amount of respondents who didn't care. Again, this is nothing even approaching evidence, but it goes to my own personal opinion that I don't believe that quite as many players and fans are outraged, passionate about, and (if given the chance) would immediately institute a playoff, as many believe.

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July 29th, 2009 at 11:20 AM | RE: players getting paid (Score:1)
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A suggestion I don't see thrown around much but that I think makes a lot of sense is to allow players to earn a year's worth of free school for every year they play, but not make them go to school while they play...For all that players get from being on the team, which I realize is a lot, they lose out on a lot of other college experiences. This would help make up for that. It would also, more importantly, help make up for the times when guys assume they'll be pros but end up blowing out their knees or just not hacking it. They could still fall back on school. People, in my non-scientific observation, tend to get more out of school when they're older and appreciate it more anyway...

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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July 29th, 2009 at 12:36 PM | Pay to Play (Score:1)
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I'm all for players getting a reasonable stipend. The only problem with that is that there are quite a few schools that would not be able to afford this.
However... back to the point.
I would not feel bad about players getting line $1000/mo stipend because they really don't have the opportunity to work on their own.
Legally.
And actually show up and work.
Not like used car lots in columbus, Oh and norman, Ok.

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July 29th, 2009 at 11:32 AM | RE: Brian's editorial question (Score:1)
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I'm not sure who asks "who would win in an all-out team brawl?" but I think it's a fantastic question and should be asked of every team. I wonder who'd win on Michigan - Graham? I know that if the staff were taking part in the brawl too, the obvious answer is BARWIS (duh!).

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July 29th, 2009 at 1:53 PM | Molk or Martin would win (Score:1)
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in my opinion.

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July 29th, 2009 at 12:39 PM | High praise from White, seems (Score:1)
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High praise from White, seems like the Anti-Dantonio to me.

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July 29th, 2009 at 2:53 PM | Multiple QBs (Score:1)
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Wait, we potentially have MULTIPLE quarterbacks who could win games? I'd be happy just to find ONE QB who can win games for us. Heck, I'll be happy if Tate comes out and doesn't fumble every other snap, just so I don't have flashbacks to last year.

Now Stevie Brown, on the other hand...I fully expect him to win games for us all by himself...

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July 29th, 2009 at 10:47 PM | Brown (Score:1)
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He better start caring about what they do on defense. I can't handle another season of him giving up multiple touchdowns to the opponent all by himself.

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