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Big Ten Expansion: Bargaining Phase

By Brian — November 19th, 2012 at 4:55 PM — 84 comments
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I CAN FIX IT YOU GUYS: MOAR EXPANSION

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THE BIG TEN

Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska
Indiana
Northwestern
Illinois

THE BIG TEN, TOO

Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Pitt
Syracuse
Louisville
Clemson
Boston College

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November 19th, 2012 at 11:51 PM | don't forget (Score:2)
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Ohio State's protected cross divisional matchup against Little Sisters of the Poor

ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

 

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:39 PM | Ohio Love (Score:1)
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The new division alignments are flat pissing on Michigan.  If Ohio doesn't play in the B1G championship at least 2 of 3 years, they are grossly underachieving.  Every year - Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue, and a depleted Penn State.  Every year. 

"Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn't dead."

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:43 PM | Can we just make Brian Big (Score:1)
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Can we just make Brian Big Ten Commissioner? I actually like this idea, if only because it brings back the Big Ten of my childhood (substituting Nebraska for Purdue of course). And, Nebraska has always made sense as an original Big Ten school, given its location and culture. In conclusion, I ask Zoltan, Space Emperor of Space, to make Brian Big Ten Commissioner so that this can happen.

Bo Schembechler BA, Bear Bryant Law.

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:45 PM | Double Post...whoops (Score:1)
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Can we just make Brian Big Ten Commissioner? I actually like this idea, if only because it brings back the Big Ten of my childhood (substituting Nebraska for Purdue of course). And, Nebraska has always made sense as an original Big Ten school, given its location and culture. In conclusion, I ask Zoltan, Space Emperor of Space, to make Brian Big Ten Commissioner so that this can happen.

Bo Schembechler BA, Bear Bryant Law.

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:46 PM | Strange... (Score:1)
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I have no idea why, and it seems very odd of me, but I like the idea of just devouring an entire conference a lot more than taking a couple mid-tier schools from one...

Maryland is fine academically and come-again-go-again good athletically and I'm not as opposed to them as Rutgers.  Rutgers was the name of my middle school gym teacher, not a Big 10 university.  Seriously.

If the B1G must expand I'd rather it was done much more carefully; if/when we can pull quality academic and/or athletic institutions from other conferences.  When the B1G announced the addition of Nebraska I wasn't a hater.  They're not the greatest academic school, but their a gut-reaction positive name at least.  And a traditional football powerhouse, which definitely helps with the culteral fit...  *sigh*  T_T

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:53 PM | Chuck Oliver is gonna be pi$$ed. (Score:1)
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This is basically stealing his "SEC Two" idea. Unless Brian isn't adding the regulation factor in the setup.

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:55 PM | I think this is a good start. (Score:3 Normal)
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I think this is a good start.  Then we have something similar with the SEC absorbing the ACC to go to 20 teams divided into two divisions, and the PAC12 grabbing the B12, expanding to 20 and dividing itself into two divisions.

 

In 3 years time we see the Super-SEC try to grab a team from the Super-PAC20 which leads to an all out war for expansion b/w the 3 mega conferences.  In the end, the three super conferences decide to join as it will expand their geographical footprint. We now have a SUPER conference of 60 teams with the following 5 divisions:

 

B10: Michigan, OSU, PSU, Nebraska, Iowa, Wisco, MSU, Illinois, Purdue, Minny, NW, Indiana

ACC: FSU, Clemson, NC State, Maryland, BC, GTech, UNC, Miami, Duke, Vtech, Virginia, Wake

SEC: Georgia, Florida, SC, Tenn, Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, Mississippi, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, Vanderbilt

B12: Missouri, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Kansas State, iowa State, Texas Tech, Colorado, Baylor, OSU, West Virginia

PAC12: Stanford, Oregon, OSU, Washington, Cal, WSU, UCLA, USC, Arizona, ASU, Utah, TCU

 

All other teams are moved to division 1.5A.

 

Each division has 1 automatic into the super playoff, with one at-large coming from the 1.5A.

 

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:56 PM | If the Sun eats the Earth, (Score:2)
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If the Sun eats the Earth, only Denard Dilithium will survive.

We'll send him to another planet where he will be faster than the rest of them ... oh.. wait...

life is like a box of chocolates... and you got the Whizzo Quality Assortment

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November 19th, 2012 at 5:56 PM | What is going on? (Score:5 Normal)
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Hey guys Tad Watkins here with the Big 10 Marketing Department. I understand you fans are somewhat upset about the changes announced today to the greatest football conference in the world. But, let me assure you this is simply the first step towards achieving total brand immersion in expanding media markets.



Let's be honest, Champaign, East Lansing, and Bloomington don't exactly move the needle when it comes to ratings. Washington DC and the New York metro area have millions of people who will now be proud members of an actual football powerhouse. While it may seem odd that Maryland and Rutgers will both be in the Leaders Division presented by Geico, I'm confident their rich histories can help this conference forward towards total victory.



Just think, Michigan versus Rutgers in the Bank of America Big 10 Championship from beautiful Burger King Stadium in suburban New Jersey. Mister Delany is a visionary and has already inquired about additions in untapped markets like Atlanta, Boston, and Buenos Aires.



Also, I think you'll be pleased to know that Mister Delany has struck a very lucrative marketing deal with several multinational corporations that will replace the tradition helmet logos with corporate logos instead. The projected revenue is astronomical. Don't worry Michigan will still have wings, they'll just be United Airlines. In fact, in a separate announcement team nicknames will be substituted for sponsors as well. Who can possibly resist The Game between the Michigan Chryslers and Ohio State Taco Bells. That's always a classic.



Anyways thanks for reading and remember: tradition matters.



 

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:35 PM | Ohio St (Score:2)
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Old Country Buffets rings truer.

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:08 PM | This Seems Reasonable (Score:2)
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Tenured
Michigan
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
Northwestern
 
Adjunct
Indiana
Ohio State
Michigan State
Penn State
Nebraska
Maryland
Rutgers
 
Saw this posted on a Wisconsin website.
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November 19th, 2012 at 7:58 PM | Tenured professor wife (Score:1)
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Thought this was hilarious! Very clever

Keep your stick on the ice.

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:09 PM | Why do I enjoy this idea so (Score:2)
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Why do I enjoy this idea so much.

Big Ten: Original Big 10 teams.

Big Ten 2: Nebraska, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, and the six other teams our all-devouring gravitational pull acquires.

They could even rename the divisions into something equally silly, like "Tradition" and "$$$"

Lived the Dream. 2008-2012

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:26 PM | So is the University of (Score:3 Normal)
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So is the University of Chicago coming back....I wonder how Michigan State feels about this?

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:34 PM | Big Ten Eight (Score:4 Normal)
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"The Ocho!"  

"Nobody cares what you think!"

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:36 PM | Can't we just divide this up (Score:4 Normal)
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Can't we just divide this up by uniform color? We could have the ROY division and the GBIV division.

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | Two 10-divisions with promotion/relegation (Score:3 Normal)
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Just thought of the perfect solution to this Big Ten expansion thing.  All they need to do is add 6 more teams to get to an even 20.  Then you split it up into a Big Ten, and a Little Ten.  Teams would only play against those in their division.  For each sport, you put all of the good teams in the Big Ten, and the bad ones in the Little Ten.  Then, at the end of each season, you take a page from the English Premier League promotion/relegation system and boot the worse two Big Ten teams down into the Little Ten, and promote the best two from the Little Ten.  Now, THAT would be awesome.

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 19th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | But wait...there's more (Score:2 Normal)
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Even better idea...for football, just make it a one team up, one team down thing.  Then when you have the conference championship at the end of the season, you could have the promotion game right before the championship game.  So the top two teams from the Little Ten would play to see who gets to move up.  Then after that game, you immediately hold the championship game with the top two teams from the Big Ten.  How fun would that be?

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 19th, 2012 at 7:29 PM | Here's an idea (Score:5 Normal)
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The Big Ten: Midwest

Illinois

Indiana

Iowa

Michigan

Michigan State

Minnesota

Nebraska

Northwestern

Ohio State

Penn State

Purdue

Wisconsin

 

The Big Ten: Pac-West

Arizona

Arizona State

California

Colorado

Oregon

Oregon State

Stanford

Southern Cal

UCLA

Utah

Washington

Washington State

 

Each team plays eight games within its half of the conference, and one game against the other half of the conference each year. Each half of the conference has its own championship game, and the winners of these games play each other in the Rose Bowl for the overall title. And in a future playoff system, the winner of the Rose Bowl game has almost assuredly punched itself a ticket for the MNC game.

Oh that's right, they were actually GOING to do it this way, and then Notre Dame fucked it up for us.

Seriously, fuck you Notre Dame for preventing this from happening. And fuck you, USC and Stanford, for siding with Notre Dame and against the other 14 of us.

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November 19th, 2012 at 10:22 PM | ^^^^^THIS! (Score:2)
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So much this! LOTS OF FUCKING THIS!

Wow that would be cool. I wish someone had thought of this in the 1901-02 season! Except, maybe pull a couple of teams out if each "division" an have a round robin. Or something.

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November 19th, 2012 at 7:48 PM | At least the stupid logo will (Score:3 Normal)
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At least the stupid logo will be replaced...

Willie Heston - 72 touchdowns; 4 National titles; 43-0-1 record; All-American; Law Degree

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November 19th, 2012 at 8:53 PM | Guys I just had a horrible dream (Score:4 Insightful)
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I dreamt that Notre Dame was #1, OSU was undefeated, and Rutgers was in the Big Ten........OH NO ITS REAL

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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November 19th, 2012 at 9:26 PM | Shit... (Score:1)
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I thought this was real for 30 seconds.

All of this expansion foolishness has my head spinning.  Now GET OFF OF MY LAWN!

 

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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November 19th, 2012 at 10:59 PM | Numbers... (Score:2)
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While we've all been hemming and hawing about the Big Ten moniker/logo making no sense ever since Penn State joined, it's become clear to me today that there is an extra T at the end. Damnit, it must have been using a cloaking device before, but it was there all along. It was never a numbers thing...we are the BIG TENT!

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November 19th, 2012 at 11:41 PM | Alright, here is my idea for (Score:1)
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Alright, here is my idea for teams number 15 and 16. Since media footprint is so important now to the expansion of the conference I suggest the Big Ten takes Columbia University to secured New York City and Occidental College in Los Angeles. This is an absolute win for network coverage!

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November 20th, 2012 at 12:55 AM | For Babylon 5 Geeks (Score:2)
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This may be a bit too sci-fi nerdy, but I just realized that the Big Ten Commissioner:

Looks an awful lot like this guy.

File:B5 londo.jpg

It can't be a coincidence.

 

He doesn't want to go down!

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November 20th, 2012 at 10:29 AM | I Liked Babylon 5 Too (Score:2)
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If Delany is Londo Mollari and that makes the B1G the Centauri Republic, then does that make the Big East the Narn Regime? 

There's an MGoFiction diary in here somewhere.

 

"...what do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?"

"Fix the cigarette lighter."

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:46 AM | Big 0x10 (Score:2)
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See, Delaney is secretly a computer geek and wants the Big 10 name to make sense again.



So, we get to 16 teams and end up with the Big 0x10....



Seriously though, I tried explaining the entire situation to a non-sports fan and they said at the end "These are Universities right? Who are supposed to focus on education?"



I laughed and laughed and laughed.

Re: My Avatar - It's Guy Gardner.  If you're a nerd like me, you'll get it.

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November 20th, 2012 at 9:40 AM | I think Brian is on to (Score:0)
Icehole Woody
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I think Brian is on to something here.

1. Expand to 20 teams.

2. Original Big Ten in one division.  Penn State et al in the other division.

3. Play all teams in your division every year.   Members may schedule additional conference games as they wish.

That would preserve all traditional rivalries as well as lend some scheduling flexibility..

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 10:39 AM | On the surface this seems like a huge letdown, (Score:1)
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considering that the SEC got A&M, the ACC got Pitt and ND, and the B1G just recently got Nebraska. Neither Maryland nor Rutgers has that kind of caché and Rutgers is being pulled from the Big East for godsakes. 

But in addition to the TV markets, I believe the conference's presidents and AD's envisioned the potenital "road" games their teams could be playing in. Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State and possibly Wisconsin are all good candidates to play Maryland at FedEx Field, and Rutgers at MetLife Stadium. Sort of how sometimes in Big East basketball, St. John's plays at MSG and others like Seton Hall, Villanova, and Georgetown would sometimes play their "bigger" games in their nearby metropolis' pro arena. Nebraska-Maryland sounds silly, but sounds a little less silly if it's played at FedEx. And how does Michigan-Rutgers at MetLife Stadium sound?

"Is there enough magic out there in the moonlight to make this dream come true?" 

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November 20th, 2012 at 10:45 AM | It sounds (Score:2 Normal)
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Ridiculous.

Be the change, I want you to be.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:20 AM | Traditions (Score:1)
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Is it weird I started thinking about Fiddler on the Roof and having a life changing event and losing all traditions with all this happening?

3-time Wolverine

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November 20th, 2012 at 12:19 PM | MSU too. (Score:1)
Yeoman
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State is also an expansion team, if of a bit older date than the others. Couldn't we ship them into the Too division too, to maintain the natural rivalry with Rutgers? Make it a trophy game, play it on Black Friday every year to get the holiday season going. Both teams could wear their home unis and they could play for a Christmas ornament that looks like a football helmet. Or a chrome football helmet that looks like a Christmas ornament. I can't decide.

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