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Big Ten Expansion: Bargaining Phase Part II

By Brian — November 20th, 2012 at 1:04 PM — 62 comments
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Penelope Waits Crafty Like a Fox[1]

FEELING STITCHY

Okay okay okay you guys I've got it

WEST

Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern
Illinois

EAST

Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Indiana

COASTAL*

Maryland
Rutgers

*ineligible for championship game, plays all games against coastal division

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:07 PM | Purdue? (Score:5 Normal)
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did we kick them out of the conference?

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | He's done it twice now (Score:5 Normal)
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so I'm guessing it's a nod to the "Purdue does not exist" meme.

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Purdue? (Score:5 Normal)
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More like Purdon't exist. AMIRITE?

I can only continue to reference the fact that I live in an onion factory.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:08 PM | So we're appropriating... (Score:3 Normal)
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...other CFB blog memes now? Seems a bit crass and derivative.

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe

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November 20th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | (No subject) (Score:3 Normal)
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CoE Class of 2007

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Coastal (Score:5 Normal)
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Can't we just make them honorary members of the Coastal?

Nobody wants to go to West Lafayette and they're essentially already ineligible for the championship game.

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November 20th, 2012 at 9:03 PM | That's easy to say... (Score:1)
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but West Lafayette is a great time. Neon Cactus!

Go Blue!

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM | I saw there were only 11 (Score:4 Normal)
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I saw there were only 11, but it legitimately took me seeing this to figure out who the 12th was...

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | Well... (Score:3 Normal)
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That is just mean ;-)

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | Because fuck Purdue (Score:3 Normal)
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that's why

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | Maryland will need to ask for OSU's advice... (Score:4 Normal)
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on how to cope with being 7-1 division champs without the ability to play for championships.

Go Blue!

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:13 PM | I mean, I get it (Score:5 Normal)
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but IT'S OHIO WEEK BRIAN.

Maybe a little HATE to go with all the B1G talk?

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:55 PM | (No subject) (Score:2)
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not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:14 PM | I like it (Score:2 Normal)
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Brian what's realistically the best we can hope for though?

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:14 PM | What is a Purdue? (Score:2)
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What is a Purdue?

Twitter

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:15 PM | "I'm cold. I'm cold." (Score:1)
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"There, there."

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Danny Hope's mustache isn't (Score:2)
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Danny Hope's mustache isn't happy Brian.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:18 PM | This has nothing to do with divisions. Foxes? Yes. (Score:2 Normal)
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:19 PM | (No subject) (Score:4 Normal)
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"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (Score:1)
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hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

allowance day! ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM | that's awesome (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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If only it were true.  Until then, Death to Delany

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM | Not sure about this (Score:5 Normal)
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How are we going to accomodate our SEC schedule if we have to play these crappy B10 teams every year?

Frankly, I don't see it.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM | With the Thanksgiving (Score:5 Normal)
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With the Thanksgiving Season:

Grownups Table

Michigan

Ohio

Michigan State

Wisconsin

Nebraska

 

Kids Table

Illinois

Indiana

Northwestern

Maryland

Purdue

 

Crazy Uncles with TV Trays

Rutgers

Penn State

 

 

life is like a box of chocolates... and you got the Whizzo Quality Assortment

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:33 PM | Good idea (Score:5 Normal)
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Good idea, but little brother always sits at the kids table.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:35 PM | Iowa says :( (Score:2)
WinningSince89
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Iowa says :(

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:42 PM | As does Minnesota. (Score:2)
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As does Minnesota.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:46 PM | Minnesota? (Score:2)
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Is this how we get the conference back down to manageable numbers? Eliminate Iowa, Purdue and Minnesota?

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:06 PM | Why not? They can form a (Score:2)
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Why not? They can form a joint team - a co-op - and play at Purdue so no one has to travel far.

License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will.

life is like a box of chocolates... and you got the Whizzo Quality Assortment

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:54 PM | So I take it that Minnesota (Score:2)
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So I take it that Minnesota is moving their team to West Lafayette?

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:24 PM | Does this mean the conference (Score:2 Normal)
aiglick
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Does this mean the conference would go to 9 games so we could determine the undisputed champion between Rutgers and Maryland?

Would stink to watch the 8 part saga and not determine a victor.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:26 PM | Does anyone else feel like (Score:2)
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Does anyone else feel like there are just too many FBS teams now adays?

I think cutting down from 120-124 to ~50 would help a lot. D1 football is really the only kind people pay attention to so we would be abel to sustain 5-6 conferences at 8-10 teams each while still dividing up the tv market shenanigins. 

Then disalowing d1-d2 games and you will increase your product all around because all of the worth while football teams will play eachother more often. Go from having potentially 3 interesting games per year like we have today to having every game being against a quality opponent. 

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:31 PM | Lost in all this (Score:3 Normal)
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Lost in all this is the fact that the number of "red"-based schools has increased from 33% to over 40%, and I for one think that's an absolute travesty.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:34 PM | I say screw it (Score:2)
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Good

Michigan

Michigan State
Ohio State

Nebraska
Wisconsin
Penn State

Northwestern

Bad

Iowa

Minnesota
Illinois

Indiana

Maryland

Rutgers

 

This makes the B1G Championship game a formality, and opens the door for promotion/relegation.

"Why would you ask a dumb question like that?"  -Lloyd Carr

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November 20th, 2012 at 4:16 PM | PSU says thank you (Score:1)
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Best rating they've received in a year.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:40 PM | Package Deal Trade? (Score:2 Normal)
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Now that we have acquired Rutgers and Maryland, can we bundle them together to another conference for a better team?

…This post seemed brilliant when I first started writing it, but I can't think of a single team worth the equivalent of Rutgers and Maryland that I would want in the conference. 

The Team. The Team. The Team.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:01 PM | ND (Score:2 Normal)
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Package them both to get ND. It's the only logical conclusion to this whole mess. Then we kick out Purdue because Brian said so, and remain at 12

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:44 PM | i would (Score:2)
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Keep Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State on one side. Keep Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin together on the other side. Then if we can pair Penn State with Maryland and Rutgers. By numbers, they go in nebraskas side. We get Illinois and northwestern, plus indiana and purdue. 9 game schedule. Sound fair?

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | OK Here we go... (Score:1 Redundant)
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The Big 2

Michigan

Ohio

 

The Little Errybody Else

Errybody Else

 

This means M and Ohio will play 8 times during the regular season, and if they are both 4-4, the B1GCG will be between M and Ohio by default. Otherwise, the winner of The Series will go on to waste whoever comes out of the other division.

Think of how full the stadiums would be! MONEY.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:51 PM | What the hell is this "East" (Score:3 Normal)
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What the hell is this "East" and "West" stuff anyways?  How are we as fans suppose to know where our teams should be located with that nonsense.

 

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | Well that is easy. (Score:2)
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For example - the Red Wings are in Michigan, which is well east of west, therefore they are in the West. Got it? I will admit that Michigan, being Champions of the West, adds a bit of confusion, but there you are.

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:01 PM | Brian, this is not bargaining. (Score:5 Normal)
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We're back at denial.

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | Maybe an implied 4th division?? (Score:1)
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WEST

Nebraska 
Iowa 
Wisconsin 
Minnesota 
Northwestern 
Illinois

EAST

Michigan 
Michigan State 
Ohio State 
Penn State 
Indiana

COASTAL*

Maryland 
Rutgers

 

BOLIVIA*

Purdue

*ineligible for championship game, plays all games against coastal division and Bolivia

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | Couldn't agree more (Score:1)
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You forgot PU in our conference.  That's what I thought the divisions should have been since we got Nebraksa.

Rutgers isn't even a basketball school... what the fuck

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | I dont think I've ever seen (Score:5 Normal)
GoBlueInNYC
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I dont think I've ever seen Brian meltdown quite this bad before. If the front page were the board, the Mods would have revoked his posting rights by now. Yeesh.

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | 2007, pink emo kittens. (Score:3 Informative)
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2007, pink emo kittens.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:33 PM | Yeah, (Score:1 Normal)
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it must be hard realizing that the thing you've devoted your career to (college football) is seemingly intent on destroying itself.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:42 PM | People need to stop being so (Score:2)
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People need to stop being so dramatic. The Big10 did something very stupid, sure, but the entirety of college football is not in any danger of "destroying itself." College football, including Michigan football, isn't going anywhere.

In the words of Douglas Adams:

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:06 PM | New B1G Expansion Plan (Score:5 Normal)
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OK, New B1G expansion plan:
 
Add Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Duke, NC State, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami and Boston College to go to 24.
 
Create four new divisions:
Big Ten East:
Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Indiana, Purdue, 
Big Ten West: Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska.
Big Ten Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Maryland, North Carolina State, Rutgers
Big Ten Coastal: Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech.
 
The East and West will play against each other exclusively, the Atlantic and Coastal will do the same.

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"The Michigan fanbase: a cynical, Eeyorish bunch even in the best of times."

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | We can call (Score:5 Normal)
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the East vs West half the Big Ten(12) and the other half the ACC!!

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:37 PM | 4 Divisions (Score:1)
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While your 4 division idea was made in jest I do think a 4 divisions would be best if we ultimately become a 16 team conference.

For the sake of arguement lets assume the Big Ten jumps to 9 games in conference and that we add two teams.  Lets sat UVA and VT (which exact two does not necessarily matter).

The divisions could be geographically based, like:

Northwest Division: Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin

West-Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, and Purdue

East-Central: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio, and Penn State

East: Rutgers, Maryland, Virginia, and Virginia Tech

The divisions could be tweaked to even out- or to adjust if two added teams are better in a different region geographically....

Lets say you are in Division A- you could play all of Divison B and 1/2 of C.  The next year you'd play the other 1/2 of C and all of D.  That way you would have a 4 year cycle to play every team home and away.

I like that idea better than two groups of 8 playing the other group of 8 once a decade or so.

What does everyone else think of divisions of 4 if we go to 16?

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