I've heard Carr say himself that he wanted to retire at the end of the 2006 season. He was asked to stay by Martin and Coleman.
Mason NEEDS this, Pistons, after all you've put him through
From this point on I don't care about the following opinions on what Rich Rodriguez deserves after three years:
I also don't have anything that's definitive. We know that there is no McMahon-style "you're firrrrrrrred" press conference today, and given the way things work that means Rodriguez will be the coach through the bowl game. We know that the rumors were heavy enough for Dave Brandon to personally debunk them on the twitters. We can read the withering sarcasm between the lines of this from Brandon…
…and if it's not withering sarcasm* I don't want to know.
I've got some stuff in the inbox and from elsewhere. A bit of it says Rodriguez is getting fired, period, citing "impeccable sources." Another from before the OSU game reports second hand that Harbaugh "has an offer" while expressing skepticism at the nature of the information given its timing—what if Michigan had won Saturday? Some other stuff has filtered to me via talkative former players all saying "canned," as well.
The part I trust—the one that called Brandon as the likely new AD and tipped me off about the Alabama game—is far from certain except about one thing: anyone who says anything with certainty is full of it. Brandon keeps his own counsel and makes his own decisions. Since Brandon has a direct line to the obvious head coaching candidate there will be no search committee or consultants tapped or planning, cutting off virtually all of the usual leak sources. It's unlikely anyone has anything until hours before it breaks, at which point it will be everywhere.
I'm not inclined to put much in the widespread chatter that had RR out the door after the OSU game and seems to be continuing since its sourcing seems to be pissed-off-you-guys folk clearly unhappy with the state of the program taking small interactions and interpreting them as they desire. However, the vibe I'm getting from other people who seem to be on the fence about what to do—or at least close to it—also makes it seem unlikely Rodriguez is back. Emphasis on all the qualifying words in the previous sentence, please. I've got nothing solid because no one does.
In the event that happens, Harbaugh is the obvious #1 guy, with the main sticking point being Harbaugh's willingness to accept the imposition of a silly, off-putting buyout in case any NFL teams get ideas. It sounds like if the decision is made to pursue Harbaugh, something will be worked out and he will be introduced essentially immediately. They won't get rid of Rodriguez unless they know they have the next coach lined up.
So… that's what I've got. I'm uncertain about everything. I guess that's good from a program standpoint, but it's frustrating when the next month will see Michigan's future hang in the balance with nothing trustworthy to put a foot on.
*(Not specifically about Desmond, who tweeted a couple things about how he had faith in Brandon to make the decision. More the "Appreciate the passion & interest," random talk-radio raver.)
I've heard Carr say himself that he wanted to retire at the end of the 2006 season. He was asked to stay by Martin and Coleman.
... either way.
He'll get picked up by another school (Miami?) and he'll get the time he needs. He won't have the arrogance and constant bashing of "fans". He won't be hearing the "You're not doing it the [insert school here] way!"
People will be mum, let him do his job, and watch the BCS appearances roll in.
Yes, he'll end up laughing at Ann Arbor for letting him go down the road. And when Michigan's pro-style offense meets Rodriguez in a bowl game or non-conference game, chalk up Rodriguez with the 'W'. Stanford had no chance against Oregon's spread attack, and Michigan will be in the same boat.
Rodriguez was hired to do something drastically different. I agree, it has been a shit ride with not many results, but my god the fan base reminds me of teenage women getting pissed at their diets or something because they haven't become non-obese in 2 and a half days.
The spread is enjoying considerable success, as most ranked teams use a spread of some variation, including No. 1 Oregon, No. 2 Auburn, and No. 3 TCU.
If he stays in Ann Arbor, and delivers on his promise to make this the best football program in America (a promise I believe he can achieve), then he gets to laugh at all his critics.
If I'm Rodriguez, I kind of want out of Ann Arbor anyways, there's no respect. Hell, the guy was already blacklisted by the "Michigan faithful" before he announced to WVU that he would be leaving. It's been a constant barrage of bullshit from every whichway before he even moved into his office in Schembechler Hall.
my friend are right,the top teams in the nation run the spread,please Michigan fans you just need to relax.The first 2 seasons shouldn't even count on rich rods record.Why?,because he didn't have any players that fit his style when he got here.Last year we played 2 true freshmen at the most important postion on the field QB.
I agree that RR will wind up at another top program and we will regret the decision to can him after three years based on the incoherent whining of Michigan's win-now fanbase.
On a side note, I think that some of RR's supporters on this blog share some of the blame for the current negative sentiment about keeping him. Before the OSU game many talked endlessly about how we had a shot to pull the upset given our high-powered offense. Unfortunately, this was a double-edged sword. When people started thinking we had an outside chance at a W, the clubbing we received looked even worse. RR's supporters should have been honest in their assesment from the beginning: we had NO chance to beat OSU this year (or any other top 10-15 team). But that does not not mean we won't have a chance next year...unless we start rebuilding again. Give RR a chance, if he fails next year fine, but at least any coach offered the job will know he will get a fair shake.
I like RRod, I would keep him and the spread option attack (if for no other reason than it makes me giddy using it in NCAA 10), but can you honestly chalk up Stanford losing to Oregon to the formations? Stanford is a heck of a team this year, but Chip Kelly has far better recruits that he's had the chance to mold since they were recruited. Our old offense and the current Wisconsin offense aren't likely innovative enough to be repeat dynasty players in the modern world, but there are plenty of ways you can innovate off the pro set to be competitive. I have no doubt if he leaves here RRod can be a wildly successful coach elsewhere, he would just need to find the right DCoordinator to work with him and inheret a team with talent that initially matched his needs more closely. If we do fire him, i'll be sad that so many people made such a nice guys life hell for three years.
Sometimes I wonder if RR has struggled just so that the football gods with a twisted sense of humor can have UM hire a high-profile coach only to strike out in humiliating fashion. And then RR succeeds at the next place because he's a good coach and it makes us look like idiots for firing him.
You obviously haven't spent time around other major fan-bases. SEC. Big 12. Those fans are rabid dogs. Les Miles had death threats while going underrated. Coaches are picked apart for the slightest dip in production. Talk-radio is relentless. A large chunk of the OSU base rages about The Vest. Our base is demure by comparison to many or most.
The only "Michigan Way" that matters at the end of the day is winning. Even with the NCAA infractions, if we go 10-2 this season we aren't having this conversation. It's very convenient for people to talk like they're so opposed to he way Rich Rod coaches this team, but in reality what they're opposed to is going 15-21 over three seasons.
"Rodriguez was hired to do something drastically different."
I just think that statement is absolutely false. RR was not hired to do things differently. He was hired to win games. If he chose to do that in a different fashion, that would be totally acceptable. However, he's failed to do the very basic thing he was hired to do....compete at a high level in the Big Ten.
I'm not saying that he needs to stay or go....I'm just saying that he has not successfully performed his job up to this point.
As far as I'm concerned, I fully believe in my heart that RR is gone as soon as January 1st 2011 rolls around, mainly because Michigan's buyout on RR's contract will go from 4 mil to 2.5 mil as soon as January get's here. Wait a month and save 1.5 mil (it's going to Harbaugh anyways, but you know what I mean) or waste 1.5 mil and fire RR now!? Makes sense doesn't it?
....but the people on this board who are defending RR more so than their University and its fans aren't real fans in my book. "He won't have the arrogance and constant bashing by fans" etc.; this is bullshit. Why don't you guys go follow RR over to whatever school he ends up at if he is fired! (I am in no way a Rich Rod hater. I believe whatever coach is here next year needs to compete for the Big Ten Title next year considering that we have so many returning contributors.)
Yeah, and everyone that has a different opinion than me is a communist! Wheeeeeee!
Here is my problem with bringing in Harbaugh now, he could easily start with 2 losing seasons. Than the whole fire the coach thing starts up again. Maybe since he is a good ole boy "Michigan Man" he can skate through. My fear is that we end up playing musical coaches and spend the next 15 years being Notre Dame going 7-5 all the time.
So for all the Harbough fans, what is the expectation? How many years until a B10 title? When can we fire him if he "fails"?
I support RR is long is he is our coach, I suported Carr, and I would support Harbaugh or anyone else that is the coach.
Unfortuantly there is a group of 1997 Michigan fans that expect a NC every few years and would rather fire coaches all the time.
I'll begin this by saying I'm in the pro-RR camp. I've given my reasons why previously, and I feel a lot of the more recent negative buildup is because of the massacre in Columbus. That said, it's not surprising...
WR-Junior, Sophomore, Junior/Junior, Senior
OL-Freshman, Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Senior/Junior, Junior, Senior, Senior, Junior
DL-Junior, Junior, Sophomore/Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Senior
LB-Junior, Sophomore, Senior/Junior, Senior, Senior
DB-Senior, Freshman, Freshman, Freshman, Sophomore/Senior, Senior, Sophomore, Senior
And for comparison's sake, the number of starting underclassmen (freshmen) for the Top 10 teams in the countries.
The only team that comes remotely close to being our situation is Oklahoma. I don't think any other program in FBS ended the season starting 3 Freshmen in the secondary especially two 3-star true freshmen. And before everybody goes "That shows RR can't recruit"...I'll rehash some of the "Never Forget" highlights.
Woolfolk (season-ending injury), Floyd (season-ending injury), Turner (D2 school), BooBoo (jail), Dorsey (God only knows), Vlad (injured in HS, transferred when began behind a walk-on), M. Williams (didn't pan out), etc.
So I say give RR one more year at least.
Besides the injuries, that list doesn't exactly scream out "Rich Rod is a great recruiter." One guy in jail, a washout in Turner, a guy who was injured in college, a guy who "didn't pan out," and two guys (you forgot Witty) who couldn't qualify. Add in the fact that Floyd wasn't very good even before he got hurt, and the fact that, contrary to revisionist history, Woolfolk wasn't exactly a lockdown corner before he got hurt, and I'd say that's pretty damning. And yeah, I know he didn't recruit all those guys; not sure on the numbers but I think he recruited all but Woolfolk? Anyway, I think that's all counter-productive to your argument. And finally, I'm about 51/49 in favor of Rich Rod staying, so I'm not trying to make a point about hiring Harbaufh or firing Rodriguez.
Cissoko was a Carr recruit. As was Woolfolk. Witty was a middling 2-star recruit most felt was offered to make sure we landed Denard. Turner was recruited by virtually every major program in the Midwest. He seems to have maybe not wanted it. And perhaps his DB recruiting hasn't been the greatest, but let's also remember...
Omameh was a 2-star DE prospect. Odoms was a 3-star. He stole Roundtree from Purdue and that was his first half-class. His first full class netted Tate, Roh, Stokes, Cam, Lewan, DENARD, and Schofield as 4 stars and possibly contributors in Campbell and Q-Wash if the position switches work out.
I think his first full class was eliminating the '08 Offense disaster (which I think we can agree he accomplished), and according to Rivals rankings, 8 of Michigan's Top 10 rated recruits were on defense last year. Christian didn't play well, Ash redshirted, Dorsey BOOO, Marvin Robinson should be a player, Wilkins redshirted, Jibreel Black got better as the year progressed, Furman redshirted, and Carvin played as well as can be expected for a Freshman. He also landed Beyer and Crawford so far in this class. I think he really needs to land 2-3 really good prospects on both the DLine and Secondary to consider this a successful class.
Its not just about recruiting, its about what you do with those players once you recruit them. Great coaches make players better. This is exactly what JH did at Stanford, and why many people think he is a great coach.
Harbaugh can coach my team any time
But, he didnt develop the program into a monster until he first threw freshmen and position switchers into his secondary in 2009, when they predcitably sturggled, hired an entire new defensive staff heading into this season and all the first year starters in the DB in 2009 devleoped into a decent unit in 2010 during their second years as starters. Last year, it looked like JH had no idea how to coach a D. This year? He looks like he can coach a D
I dont think its fair to say RR cant devleop his own recruits. The players the above poster listed are at the very beginning of their college careers
Can anyone celebrate the fact that for the first time in 3 years, this team will be playing after November? I know everyone loves to get worked up about the next head coach, but in a couple of weeks we are all going to be able to see a constantly-improving team, healthier now than they've been in months, likely blitzing some poor SEC or B12 team by 10-20 points. I am from the camp that RR should be given another year, but no matter how that plays out, I'm very excited to watch this team play another game.
By the way, current bowl projections have us facing anybody from Nebraska to Okie State to Missouri if we end up in the Insight Bowl (odds of this are probable)
Those teams are better than we are. Okie State may put up 600 yds passing on us.
I am totally stoked this team is bowling. And, frankly, I am happy about it.
I offer a big middle finger to anybody who tells me I should not be happy about it. This stop at 7-5, 3-5 is a necessary stop while climbing out of the Big 10 basement. The eyes are on a bigger prize down the line, but at this point in time, this was a good accomplishment for the team.
Thank you - I'm so happy to be able to enjoy December again thinking about bowl games and Michigan as a participant in the best part of the holiday season. This blog is getting to be an enormous downer with all the hand wringing and dreaming of Harbaugh as the 2010 version of 2007's Les Miles (we get it - everyone here has an enormous fetish for The Michigan Man).
The team is on its way and they believe that they're getting better together. That's what I like to see. I would hope that they could enjoy this well-deserved month of bowl prep without their fans being so incredibly distracted by a sideshow fanned into flames by Lynn Effing Henning (and friends).
Jim Harbaugh could potentially be a great Michigan coach. But he should have to wait his turn, and maybe never get his chance. There is a right way to go about things, and wrong way, and if RR is run out on a rail like some of you would like, then the Michgian tradition and class will forever be cheapened in my mind. Yes, the team is struggling, but look where this period started. I mean really..........Nick freaking Sheridan? Playing QB at Michigan? So we have gone from losing to Appy State and barely nudging Ball State at home, to glimpses of greatness with one of most likeable, talented, yet not-quite-a -finished product-yet athlete in Denard. We have the table set where upper classmen and returning starters actually are on the grid for next year. And you guys want to shit can RR, casting your lot with Rosenberg and his ilk? Yeah, I know the D sucks out loud, not to mention special teams. So DB forces some changes by making RR get rid of Gerg, and goiing out and getting the best D coordinator money can buy, along with the staff the D coord wants to bring in. Can you imagine the possibilities of what this offense could do with another year of experience, with defense that actually generates 3 and outs and puts our offense in good field position? With a field goal kicker you have confidence in from 48 yds out? We will kick ass and take names if you allow it to happen. If it doesn't, at least you lived up to your end of the bargain by allowing the stated contract term.
If you don't wait, and get rid of RR now, you may get the result you desire, but it comes at a cost. The cost is that you enable every limp dick out there like Rosenburg and Sharp to say "I TOLD you so!". You also don't honor the contract you offerred, and by everything that is right and holy, a coach deserves 4 yrs to see what he can do, particularly when it involves the overhaul that UM has needed. And for those of you who doubt an overhaul was needed, let me remind you that we have lost to tOSU for 7 years in a row, and RR has only been there for 3.
Michigan is at a crossroad here, with no certainty as to which way to go. When in doubt, you do the right thing, and that is honoring the committment you made, giving the guy the fair shot of his four full years. If it doesn't work out after that point, then it doesn't work out, but everyone can hold their head high and say they gave it their best shot. Staying the course could work out as I hope, with the start of a new(er) tradition, with RR leading the way. I look foward to it.
But I swear, if you whining gutless weenies have your way and he is done now, then not only do we face an uncertain future, but we go forward being just that much less special, which is something I have never had to consider in being a fan for the last 45 years.
Thus endeth the sermon.
Interpreting your 45-year-fandom as something near your age, I wish I could get you to have a conversation with my dad. He's been riding the Harbaugh bandwagon for weeks now, and I get an earful every week about it. In a fit of anger during the Wisconsin game, I ended up betting him $100 that RichRod will be our head coach next season.
For all the reasons you outline above, I am looking forward to my $100, and to all the future success that is coming to this team and this coach.
i agree with most everything you stated in your sermon =D. the "it " element RR just doesnt have is the sideline gameday confidence in his gameplan execution and the way he deals with players live on the field is a joke. he has no idea how to play from behind and motivate the players to do so. Or motivate and encourage a player when they make a mistake..he just walks around with that look on his face that there is a noose hangin in mid air next to his head after every mishap.
the attrition and lack of qualifying players in recruiting is unacceptable. he needs to tailor his recruiting to intelligent players that can qualify. 0 DBs are juniors. thats pathetic. no kicker. thats pathetic. as a head coach you need to control all things which appearantly is too much for him at a program this size.
1 more year. with new Defensive staff. if they they keep greg robnison on next year i will not watch any games. but if this is the only year harbaugh will be available you have to go for it. it will breed confidence throughout the entire Wolverine community and unite are cause instead of the clear division we have now. we need to be United.
Have you watched any of the games or followed any news? I mean there are good reasons to say RR should go, but you don't come close to any of them.
First, have you seen him interact with Denard after a turnover, or the defense during the Penn State game? If you want to fire him over Dorsey, Witherspoon and possibly Adrian Witty then say it, but personally I think it's pretty stupid to let a coach go after three recruits in three years don't qualify for admission at Michigan. Zero CB/S that are juniors; he wasn't capible of bringing DB's to Michigan in the two months he had to recruit in 2008, so he should be fired? Broekhuizen was a monster in high school and can't play at a college level, so we should fire him?
At least hit on the good reasons if you're going to call for a multi-million dollar and perminant coaching change.
Right way is your opinion. As they say, "Opportunity Knocks". Is it Harbaugh's fault that he's a former star quarterback from Michigan who also has proven his coaching skills by crafting the #6 team in the country - while RR has pulled Michigan slowly out of a tailspin into a 7-5 team? Timing.
I have been a strong supporter of Rich for 2 2/3 seasons. But it became clear to me in year 3 that he has some serious flaws as a head coach. He has done a great job crafting the offense. This is exactly what I was hoping for when he was hired! But what about Defense? What about Special Teams? We are totally killing it on one and only one aspect of the game.
Rich is the best Offensive Coordinator in the business. But we need more.
Leading into the Wisconsin game, I was hoping that Rich would be forced at the end of the season(by Brandon) to fire not only our Defensive Coordinator, but most of the Defensive staff and implement a 4:3 that would work in the Big Ten (oh, and how about some focus on special teams while you're at it?). But with the recent events and potential opportunity to bring Harbaugh in, well, I am totally on board with that! Yeah, he's a "Bo Guy" but way more than that. He's a modern day, progressive coach who will want nothing more than to kick the hell out of MSU and tOSU. And he will do that and with a really bad attitude. I totally love that. Wait for his time? Are you kidding?
He's a modern day, progressive coach who will want nothing more than to kick the hell out of MSU and tOSU. And he will do that and with a really bad attitude. I totally love that.
that those were exactly the things being said about Rich Rodriguez three years ago. The wanting is always better than the having.
Don't think he really had any concept of who our rivals are or were. I am happy if we keep Rich (and require major coaching changes on Defense and Special Teams) or go with Harbaugh. But I really think Harbaugh is the way to go.
Good post. Our offense is good, but we can still improve. We need to be able to put up more than 7 points on OSU, but I'm happy with the way things are working there. But the D and ST has been beyond atrocious. And I don't see us being a whole lot better. Will we find someone who can hold onto the damn ball? Can we find someone to kick FGs? Will we find a way to get more pressure on the QB without getting burned? Will our LBs be worse off with Mouton gone? Will our secondary be much better with Woolfolk back, even though we will still be young?
He never really understood the rivalries and never showed the passion a Michigan coach should towards these games. That is why we are 0-6. Tressel and Dantonio sure understand the significance of those games. That ultimately is why Rich needs to go.
I dislike those wankers at State and OSU as much as the next guy. But one of the reasons they are wankers (IMO) is that they're freaking obsessed with us. Petty, narrowminded, whining, panting obsessives. I think that makes them a lesser program; I think U-M is bigger than that.
Those games will always be important (and it's deeply satisfying when we win) but I don't want to pick a coach or craft a program around some fixation on one or two opponents.
Sure we lost to App St and got embarrassed a few times with LC. But we also were #2 a year before he left and beat a good UF team in his last game.
... but it was a veteran team.... the #2 team had lots of juniors and seniors and the 2007 had a senior Chad Henne, Mike Hart, Jake Long, etc. Veterans at key positions. The 2007 team was expected to compete for a BCS championship, so beating Florida and all, we underachieved. The 2007 had no upside.
But what few, if any saw coming was how vulnerable we would be one the veterans left. So we were on our way down, we just didn't know it at the time, or were too blind to see. And the coaching change accelerated our "depletion" of talent.
In contrast, the 2010 has lots of upside, if we are patient enough to reap the benefits of all these growing pains. In 2011, we should do better; and it will be a year where we can know, almost for certain if what plagues Michigan now is just the growing pains of a team that is maturing, or if it is simply coaching.
To me, it's a no-brainer. It is reasonable to expect that the team will make another leap, with more experience. I'm in favour for keeping RR for another year, but if a coaching change must be made, then let's make sure that the next coach can continue what RR has built so far, otherwise, it will be 2+ more years of rebuilding. Do we want to go through that again?
would crush this team or next years team for that matter
and I'm not one of the "fire RR" guys, but I couldn't care less about the talking heads and whether or not they were "right." Nobody knew what the outcome would be back in December 2007. A couple more losses and RR probably would've already been fired. And a couple of more wins and we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation. The fact is that there are positives and negatives to RR and his coaching abilities aside from the 7-5 record in year three.
The question in my mind is: can this current coaching staff lead the team to a Big Ten Championship in 2011? My answer is no, not with the current defensive staff. I believe changes need to be made on the defensive side of the ball. IMO, there are only 2 options, replace the underperforming defensive coaches and keep RR for one more year, or fire the RR and start over. I honestly think that making no changes will result in a failure in 2011. Even looking at the 2011 roster and seeing the possibility of starting zero freshmen, I see a defensive staff that is not putting it's players in the best position to win. The defense looks unprepared for what the opposing offense is trying to do and my concern is not a youth issue. One of my main issues is with the D-Line/LBers who are not young. The team consistently looks lost and out of position and I've seen zero improvement to tell me 2011 will be any different.
You said much more eloquently what I've been straining to communicate in snippets. Thank you.
Watch how swiftly some readers will morph your qualified speculation (emphasis on both "qualified" and "speculation") into a news item. That's exactly what they did with, say, Wojo.. A prediction somehow becomes a "report." And boom.
Also, if you're speculating, so can any other writer. People only attack speculation selectively.
In one week we have seen a firestorm of conversation here on MGoBlog as well as nationally and we are so emotionally whacked right now that we have forgotten where this all started. We had our friends in the MSM start the RRod must go conversation. Then it jumped to an OSU alum who is a darling with ESPN who decided they could make a good story out of this. Then Matt Millen made this the big story of the game which mind you was against a team that had National Champion written all over it at the beginning of the season. So as our team tried but failed, this turned from oh we are losing to complete doom.
So what has happened. Do you all remember 9/11/2001? What happened that day? Yes the terrorists hit us hard and we became very vulnerable and scared. Then we changed our lives as a country and some would argue the terrorists have won as they have fundamentally changed our society.
So let me ask you this, what has the MSM done to us? I do not see a great deal of difference here. We have one of the best football players in the nation being recognized tonight. We have a high integrity team of players, and we have a coach who has made mistakes and is getting vilified because he lost to 3 of the best teams in the country and two others that played their best games of the year against us. With this and more we have let our terrorist like members of the media get the best of us because they have their view of how things should be. I want Michigan football to be great again and we started to see glimpses of this again. I would love for this to continue along it's current path and if that path changes, then I will be most sad that the change was started by our common enemy.
are you telling me the terrorists have already won? That Ohio State fans and the media are members of al Qaeda? You lost me right about the time you started dropping 9/11 references.
I am too guilty of reading too many posts this past week and subjecting myself to the overwhelming amount of emotions. Thanks for calling me out.
This is football and while we may be passionate about our team, but 9/11? Seriously?
The problem is you're focusing on the things in life that don't really matter. When I was a kid I had hopes and dreams. We all did. But over time, the daily grind gets in the way and you miss the things that really matter, even though they are right in front of you, staring you in the face. I think the next time you should ask yourself "Am I on the right track here?". I don't mean to be rude but people like you I really pity. So maybe you could use the few brain cells you have and take advantage of the knowledge I have given you now. Good luck.
success story much prognosticated about, but never really seen. Brian wrote one brief, well-written piece. How much better than a newspaper is all of this?
Thanks for the sensible, measured discussion of the hot topic, which addresses the key aspect of this speculation--it's all based on rumor and conjecture. There are no hard facts at the moment, and only DB knows where we're headed--assuming he's actually made up his mind already.
That said, I'd like to bring up an aspect of the whole "is it RR or Harbaugh for 2011" discussion that no one seems to be addressing: would Harbaugh actually leave 11-1 Stanford before they play in what's likely to be a BCS bowl? Would he commit to Michigan while his team is still out there preparing for the biggest game in recent Stanford history?
Unfortunately, this is asking for more idle speculation. But I'm asking for a reason: these questions highlight the fact that our coaching soap opera may be shaped by factors outside DB's control, and beyond the questions of whether DB wants Harbaugh and whether Harbaugh wants Michigan.
Returning to speculation, I have a hard time seeing Harbaugh leave his team before the bowl game. So as much as I WANT TO KNOW NOW(!!!), I feel like, if Harbaugh is the man, we're not going to hear anything definitive until January anyways. I HOPE--again, if Harbaugh is the man--this means that RR keeps recruiting yet also finds himself another job, because despite all the failures of the past 3 years, I like the guy and hope he has success wherever he is next year. But that, at least the first part, seems like naive hope.
If Harbaugh isn't interested--either because he's staying at Stanford or jumping to the NFL--I hope we get this out of the way quickly so RR has the vote of confidence. I assume this is what DB is ascertaining at the moment...
Yes. Michigan is his dream job. He grew up around Bo and the program. If it is offered he will take it.
Lloyd's indifference to recruiting.
In the Big Ten and other major conferences, the games are played by 5th year seniors, 4th year juniors and seniors, with a light seasoning of a few underclassmen here and there. Any player on this year's team who is more than a sophomore is Lloyd's. How many All-Big Ten players does Michigan have this year? Molk, Martin and Mouton. How many upperclassmen total did Michigan have this year in the two-deep? Four on offense, six or so on defense?
That is how you get your ass beat in the Big Ten. You wind up improvising like a mad fool trying to get under-aged, under-sized, under-developed, and under-skilled guys to perform at a high level.
If Rich gets fired, get Lloyd to pay off the balance of his contract. He left no players, players with attitudes lousy enough to leave (one starting guard, one NFL wideout, another practice squad wideout, one tall project of a quarterback), and, worst of all, no assistant prepared to take over. Nice work over your decade and a half, Lloyd.