Im sorry, but did anyone else notice this during the game today? Michigan dressed 2 different people in the #8, one was Sheridan and the other was some dude on defense. How the hell do you do that?
I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
Only let one play offense, and the other play defense, and it's fine.
i suppose youre right, just figured out of 100 possible numbers, dude would of been more creative with his choice
When one of the people behind me saw #5 on defense, he thought Carson Butler was playing defense. Then I told him that #5 was also Charles Stewart.
Look at the depth chart there are few double numbers. It is very common, not really a big deal.
people having the same number happens quite a bit. people just want certain numbers and as long as they are not on the field at the same time, it does not matter.
most teams have more than 100 players, so if you look at the sidelines carefully or read the full roster instead of just the two deep, you'll see lots of repeated numbers
watching football or something
Steve Brown and Justin Feagin have #3
Martavious Odoms and Marell Evans have #9
This is legal only if the two players aren't on the field at the same time. This includes special teams, so you couldn't have both Carson Butler and Charles Stewart on the punt team, for example.
You'll be seeing LOTS of this during your UM fan career. Even more often with numbers below 20, and almost exclusively with the coveted #2 - 10 digits.
Also, we'll cue you in to the retired shirts: #11, 47, 48, 87, and 98.
Why the #2 hasn't been given to CW or the #21 to Desmond is a subject of recent debate (if Vince Young gets the Texas 10 retired, why not Woodson), but that's an argument for another thread.
I think the plan is to not retire any more of them. We're down to 94 available numbers for a team of around 110 players. The only number that has been retired in the last 20 years is Gerald Ford's, and his was obviously a special case.
hat is right that it doesn't make sense to retire so many numbers. Something I think would be cool is something along the line of retired numbers, but instead, a monument in the confines of the Big House that showcases all the greats to wear each number. Kind of like the history of the Tigers at Comerica. Something in the concourse where you can walk around and look at the history of Michigan Stadium and the players in it. Whether it was done by numbers, "eras," or otherwise. I always felt that was missing from Michigan Stadium. There is a ton of history, but none of it is readily available at the Big House.
i'm sure something like that is part of the plan, given that there will actually be a nice concourse with the renovation.
How about making certain numbers position-specific in honor of the greats? #2 for DBs, #1 for WRs, #20 for RBs, when Brown graduates #3 for safeties...
#1 is already reserved for WRs, follwing the Braylon scholarship frenzy, the others are the subject of much debate. (Personally, I would retire #2, but no others) On a related note, how can you include Brown in this discussion? Did you watch the first two games?
saw no reason to retire #2.
but did he think you were serious about Stevie Brown?
How about letting a kid choose his own jersey number? I'm okay with the "tradition" of the #1 jersey going to the best wide receiver. But the best RB shouldn't always wear #20, the best DB shouldn't always wear #2, etc. That's just kind of ridiculous.
....who wore those retired numbers?
stuff in the stadium
Harmon, Wisterts, Oosterbaan, Kramer, Ford. It is worth looking them all up in Wikipedia.
Harmon - 98
Ford - 48
Oosterbaan - 47
Kramer - 87
Wistert Brothers (3) - 11
Keep the other numbers as trbutes to the greats. People are less likely to remember the number if it is retired.
I could only remember the Wisterts and Harmon off the top of my head, Bennie and Ford by name but not number...sadness. Anyone watch that one story on FSN "Amazing Sports Stories" on the "Steagles" NFL football team back in the 40s? Al Wistert was on it a bunch of times (he played for that team), and it was really cool to see him and be able to recognize his name/face in a non-Michigan feature.
Position-related numbers would be the most ridiculous fan suggestion since the maize jersey. What is this, rugby??
One of the several thousand reasons, in my opinion, that college ball is better than pro is the turnover. It's never about one set group of guys a la Aikman, Smith and Irvin or Montana, Craig and Rice. Every 5 years it's an entirely different team with AN ENTIRELY different set of numbers...
It's cool how the numbers flip from position to position if not altogether different sides of the ball. #6 is a CB, previously a LB, previously HB, etc. That's a good thing!
You are aware that most numbers are position-related, right? You'll never see an OL wearing a number lower than 50 or higher than 79. You won't see a RB wear a number higher than 39. You won't see a WR wear a number that's not in the 80s or from 1-19. You'll never see a QB wear a number higher than 19. And so on. There's a little variability in the lowest numbers, but that's about it.
(other than punting plays) you have to have a certain number of "ineligible numbers" for every offensive play. I believe they range from 50-79. All of these, IIRC, must also line up on the line of scrimmage.
QB/Ss - 1-19
CBs - 20s
OLBs - 30s-40s
FBs - 40s
Cs/MLB - 50s
OG - 60s
OT - 70s
WR/TEs - 80s
DT/DEs - 90s
rule concerning numbers except that each player on the field must have a unique number. On offense, the five interior linemen must have numbers between 50 and 79. Non-interior linemen (those eligible to catch a pass) cannot have these numbers. Each offensive player on the field must have a unique number. Everything else is simply convention.
We have line of scrimmage requirements and nothing else here in the college game, otherwise it's pretty much free reign to grab whatever number you can possibly want. You realize every pos. group on the team has a single digit number except the OL and DL.
What I meant was, it would be absurd to suggest that each player LITERALLY wears a specific number for his position, as was brought up in an earlier post. That IS how the sweaters work in rugby-- This end wears #4, the halfback wears a specific number, etc. FOR EVERY TEAM. How ridiculous would that be-- well, you're a cornerback so you MUST wear #2 because Woodson, etc.
Six Zero -- I think that there could be a recruiting angle to having certain numbers reserved for the best player at a position, such as #1 is for WR. It could be quite a carrot for a player to get to wear #2 as a DB.
Having said that, I'm a Michigan fan, so those numbers hold significance to me, but they may not translate well to non-lifelong fans.