"Defender removed, Gardner got up like a glacier tired of gouging lakes out of mountains."
Excellent piece of prose right there.
11/3/2012 – Michigan 35, Minnesota 13 – 6-3, 4-1 Big Ten
The only press box I've ever been in is Eastern Michigan's, and I was there to watch Devin Gardner play. He was at Inkster; Inkster was in the Big Day Prep Showdown. We even live-blogged it. The cadre of grizzled preps guys sat a few seats down. Their silverback called Gardner "high school superman" and Paul taped him from the sideline.
In an eerie prefiguring of Denard Robinson's career, Gardner had a ridiculously high percentage of Inkster's yards and made everyone feel ill when he got knocked out of the game. Inkster was on a grinding fourth quarter drive with Inkster down two. They had no kicker, so on fourth and seven from the eight they went for it. Gardner did a Vince Young impression down to the one and did not get up.
The backup came in to guide Inkster to minus three yards on the next three plays. Gardner was reinserted for fourth and the game. He rolled out into heavy resistance, drew coverage to him, and threw a weird mechanics-free jump pass that scored the go-ahead touchdown. His teammates celebrated; he laid under a defender. Defender removed, Gardner got up like a glacier tired of gouging lakes out of mountains. Weary. A thousand years weary.
In the press box, the preps silverback spake thusly: "and on fourth down, he rose again."
[UPDATE: Damn my memory. This was actually a Tim tweet. Sorry I didn't remember it right and work you in all fancy-like, Tim.]
With Gardner on the sideline, Pioneer went 68 yards in 49 seconds to win. At halftime, the Free Press had launched their Rodriguez jihad, sucking any attention his Lazarus comeback may have generated out the airlock.
That's just how being Devin Gardner has gone. He arrived with an armload of hype and fell prey to an avalanche of it wearing dreads. He didn't even get to preserve his redshirt year thanks to Tate Forcier's inability to keep on the sunny side of life and Denard going out in about 2/3rds of Michigan's games. He moved to receiver, but called himself a quarterback. He saw the Nebrasaka game up close and personal. What was he thinking then about where he had ended up?
Things happen and you feel certain ways about them and you can only figure out why you felt the things you felt in the moment later, after. From distance I think my extremely complicated yesssnononononoyessss response to Gardner's rolling out stopping neh neh neh no lets turn around and run the other way touchdown heave was comprised of these three things:
It was third and seventeen and Michigan hadn't been able to move the ball a lick against Minnesota, so that colored my expectations as well.
Mostly I expected that something hilariously bad would occur and I would tweet out gallows humor while scouting out Goldy for some Ohio Bobcat action. This expectation got much better when Gardner cleared the containment and broke to the backside of the play. It got worse again when Devin chucked it without setting his feet, and then it was a touchdown and I'm just like…
…oh. That was madcap. That's not happening again but at least we're seven points closer to not losing this game. I wonder how we will get any more? I think we should try the triple reverse throwback bomb to Lewan. Works every time when the universe has turned into a cartoon.
Michigan went with "fade route to 5'8" receiver in jet boots." Close enough. No one adjusts to the laws of physics going all looney tunes like the Michigan Wolverines.
Yeah, Minnesota is just a high school team with a nice stadium that disguised their pass defense in the wreckage of 2012 Big Ten quarterbacking. Yeah, everyone is getting way ahead of themselves praising Gardner when his performance seemed split about 50/50 between yakety sax (but good!) and receivers bailing Gardner out on balls they have no business catching. Yeah, Gardner's mechanics still look bizarre. The main takeaway from that game was uh-oh, Ohio State. Sure.
I don't think Devin Gardner cares after years of being a two-snap sideshow. That ridiculous heave was the first hint that he might be able to hack it next year, and that's a huge relief for everyone. It took three years and third and seventeen, but Devin Gardner got up and recaptured some of that old magic.
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Obligatory jug shots from same:
Brady Hoke Epic Double Point Of The Week.
A close race this week. I did tweet "JMFR" after that and meant it. Nine tackles, five solo, three TFLs, various other things that don't show up on the scoreboard but let other people make plays. However, Jake Ryan got edged again and I'm pretty sure he was the guy who let Minnesota's tight end get so wide open on their touchdown.
So… Wide Receivers As A Unit, come on down! Drew Dileo: I'm not even laughing at the inevitable Wes Welker comparisons. Jeremy Gallon: separate like a boss, leap like a man with rocket boots. Roy Roundtree: Devin Gardner TARP. If those three guys don't collectively play out of their minds the narrative about Gardner is quite a bit different today.
Honorable Mention. Devin Gardner, about whom more in a bit, Jake Ryan(beastmode on several plays), Jordan Kovacs (damn you fluck), Desmond Morgan (when he hits you on third and short stops happen).
Epic Double Point Standings.
3: Jake Ryan (ND, Purdue, Illinois)
2: Denard Robinson (Air Force, UMass)
1.3: Jeremy Gallon(Alabama, 1/3 Minnesota), Drew Dileo (Michigan State, 1/3 Minnesota)
1: Craig Roh(Nebraska).
0.3: Roy Roundtree (1/3 Minnesota)
Brady Hoke epic double troll of the week. This is just magnificent:
Coach Brady Hoke said after the game Gardner now is entrenched as Michigan's backup quarterback while Bellomy deals with an undisclosed injury, although he was guarded about what exactly is ailing the redshirt freshman.
"Russell's situation is a little different," Hoke said. "Not one I want to discuss."
Asked to clarify whether the issue is injury related, Hoke said "Most likely. Yes. A boo boo."
There's an art installation about the nature of truth and reality in Hoke press conferences. UMAA, get on that.
The Michigan Athletic Department delivered the sobering news minutes before kickoff: senior quarterback Denard Robinson would not start against Minnesota due to an “undisclosed injury.”
Hoke is "very optimistic" he'll be back next week. Amazing thing: that was the first game Denard has ever missed with injury.
Obligatory Gardnertake. Obviously he'll be the backup QB the remainder of the year what with Denard being even more fragile than normal and Russell Bellomy being both injured and the primary author of the second half of the Nebraska game. And he's finally done something other than worry everyone about his future not living up to what people were hoping it would be. This is major progress.
I still find myself way on the conservative end of reaction to Gardner's performance. Some other blog takes to set the table:
"After a frightening start, Gardner was amazing. I’m amazed that he can spend basically one week preparing for this game and do that. Yes, I realize it was The Gophers and like everyone else I’m prone to oversteer after a win, but that was remarkable. So that is the 5 star guy that everyone was salivating over out of high school."
Also at MVictors, Steve Sapardanis:
WOW!!! His performance evoked three words from me: Poise, Confidence and WOW!!
Robinson didn't play at all, and converted receiver Devin Gardner made him look utterly expendable. Lining up at quarterback for the first time this season, Gardner was 12-of-18 for 245 yards – he had three completions covering at least 45 – and two touchdowns, good for a sky-high pass efficiency rating of 206.6.
Meinke's headline-writin' guy:
Devin Gardner's stellar performance leads Michigan to rout
This may be an effect from sitting in the stadium instead of catching it on TV: Gardner had plenty of wide open dudes, and his throws were erratic. On the one hand, there was the picture-perfect bomb to Gallon; on the other, Dileo and Roundtree bailed Gardner out hardcore on the touchdown drive that put the game out of reach. The Dileo catch was a circus catch all the way, one that could have been made much easier.
Roundtree == Gardner TARP. MVictors
Meanwhile Roundtree broke open by yards and would have had an easy touchdown if Gardner had gotten the ball to the endzone on the opposite hash. As it was he had to circus Michigan out of an interception. I'm torn on pressured completions to Jerald Robinson and Roundtree that were wobblers but did pick up big chunks.
Gardner does have a much better sense of when to run around like a lunatic than Denard. His High School Superman mode picked up the Dileo touchdown and a critical third down conversion on Michigan's second touchdown drive. He's still having trouble adjusting to what he can get away with in college, as his second attempt to reprise his MSU 2012 Yakety Sax (except good(!)) ended in a crazy whip-around throwaway that is easy to see resulting in something worse than a harmless ball out of bounds.
Compounding everything is the complication that Minnesota is Minnesota, and Minnesota, despite being Minnesota, was the top pass efficiency defense in the league entering the game. I tend to give more credence to the Minnesota bit of that given Ace's FFFF of Jared Abbrederis hand-wavingly wide open and seeing plenty of that in person Saturday. Gardner had doorwalls, not windows.
Okay, yeah. Michigan called maybe one or two runs for Gardner, which was frustrating but…
The passing game wasn’t difficult to acclimate to, Gardner said, but recognizing new protections and familiarizing himself with the ground game took some time. He called offensive coordinator Al Borges’ gameplan a “safe” one, due to the extreme lack of depth at quarterback.
“They couldn’t run the quarterback,” Gardner said. “I’m comfortable with doing that, but there was no way we could have done that, it just wouldn’t have been smart.”
…okay yeah I'm with you.
Running game, turrible. Michigan got a short-yardage romp from Fitzgerald Toussaint in garbage time to make the final numbers look okay. Extracting the final two drives (four Thomas Rawls runs for 6 yards and four Toussaint runs for 50), suck out sacks (three for 23), and Michigan's run game did this:
That is a hair over four yards a carry, and suuuuuucks. Even if you add in the garbage time they only get up to 4.7 YPC, which is almost two yards worse than Minnesota's best performance to date in the Big Ten.
Kids, it's sackcloth and ashes time. I had a little fit in the stands when Michigan ran an iso on one of their first couple drives and it went for three yards because it was Rawls running into an unblocked linebacker instead of Toussaint running into an unblocked linebacker and getting two yards. Things got marginally better from there, but only marginally. Michigan's long run other than the Toussaint TD was a Gardner scramble. Their next two were 1) a Gallon end-around that didn't require much blocking, and 2) the Rawls counter pitch that required none. I'm guessing that when I do the UFR the offensive line won't come out much better than they did against Nebraska.
That's mystifying after they did pretty well against a rampant ND defense and throttled a couple bad Big Ten teams. Minnesota and Nebraska aren't much better than Purdue and Illinois on defense. Michigan crushed the latter two, and essentially got crushed by the former two. Denard's absence has a lot to do with that; it's still depressing to think of Michigan's rushing offense as the worst in the Big Ten minus #16.
Hagerup dup. Will Hagerup, please report to the garage for a tuneup: three punts for an average of 29 yards each. Yorp.
Minnesota trip report section. The Gophers' new stadium is nice, as you would expect. Unlike Northwestern—the Big Ten stadium of comparable size I've been to—even the far reaches in the corner are pretty good seats, and the video board is far superior to Michigan's. I looked it up on the wikipedia: their main board is 5184 square feet to M's 3,991 and has a higher resolution. Michigan's down to 14th on their list of biggest screen things; kind of feels like the boards installed just a couple years ago are already dated.
I was on the aisle. I spent most of the game looking around people going up or down, because 1) they serve beer and 2) Minnesota fans in our section made Michigan students look like ruthless drill instructors with their punctuality. I guess it was an 11 AM local start. Even so my strategy as a Minnesota fan would be to show up for the part of the game where you're competitive and exit early if and when that ceases to be true. At least they were nice. I didn't see a single negative interaction between Michigan and Minnesota fans.
The chintz factor was pretty high, largely because the announcer would prompt everyone with "THAT'S ANOTHER GOLDEN GOPHER…" and then a variable number of fans would say "FIRST DOWN." The PA guy's mood shifted wildly with the fortunes of the game, too. By the end of it he was almost surly. The Minnesota marching band is 350 strong and the only thing I remember them playing was the Mortal Kombat theme sometime in the third.
Logistically, the stadium is in a good spot. We tailgated at the state fairgrounds in St. Paul, which was a ten minute bus ride from the stadium on a private university road. That last bit is key: no traffic. After the game I went to a sportsbar to watch an epic Sparty No moment with various folk; another set of companions went right back to the car. The bus line: about ten minutes and then you're out of all traffic.
Oh so Sparty. Oh, Sparty. You sonsabitches. First you have to run out to a two-score lead and then salt the game away before getting their world-class Sparty No(!) moment in on a personal foul on a pick six—one of like six you sonsabitches took after being on your best fairy godmother behavior against Michigan because really you're just misunderstood—and then getting outright screwed in a fashion that I couldn't even enjoy because you needed to win that game.
And then. And then after the game you took a shot at Denard for no damn reason:
"He's faster than Denard, even though he thinks he's faster than (Usain) Bolt," Narduzzi said. "He's flat-out fast. He's a good football player."
And then players hopped on Twitter to claim they had not lost but one game this year:
The post-MSU-win column truly could not have been anything but what it was. So Sparty.
It took exactly two weeks to go from "where's the threat" to Same Old Spartans. Well, okay. I actually hope you sonsabitches make a bowl game because thanks to the ineligible teams you'll get sucked into a NYD thing against an SEC team and lose by 600.
BONUS BONUS BONUS
Kid's got a future with Vince McMahon if the football thing doesn't work out.
All that said. I'm with MGoGadfly KJ on the validity of that penalty.
The player is trailing the play, looking at what's going on. He's Kenny Bell—he's fast. There is a possibility the play cuts back to where he's relevant, and Adams doesn't hit him in the head, he just shoulders him to the ground. It's not dirty or excessively violent. It's the equivalent of the PF Michigan got last week for hitting Martinez late—overprotective busybody stuff done in the name of PR. Unlike last week, it swung the game.
AND I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO LIKE IT ARRRGH
Fake field goal thing. Minnesota folk were livid at it but after seeing it on replay I think Kill almost got us.
Kill had something up his sleeve and used it, getting his quarterback wide open on the sideline with no one covering him. If he'd run downfield and the guy had thrown downfield, touchdown. Bizarrely, despite setting this up and getting a quick snap in the throw was on the LOS and Michigan could recover because they were not rushing seriously. It didn't seem like it was a screwup by the guy throwing the ball, either: Nelson just sat on the LOS instead of running downfield.
I don't get that bit, but the idea worked. The execution/play design was busted.
Side note: if you're wondering how that happened after the rules were changed such that anyone checking into the game has to do so between the numbers: Nelson was already on the field and just stayed on as the rest of the offense jogged off. I'm not sure why you'd put Nelson out there instead of a receiver in that case, another strange thing about that play.
So… yeah, everything that happened after the snap was weird and bad. The gamble itself I can get behind when your kicker is .500 on the season.
A plea for pass interference sanity. I'll probably expand this into a larger post after the season but Saturday really crystallized how much I hate the pass interference rule as currently implemented. I actually thought this when Michigan got the benefit of it on the long incompletion to Roundtree on which the DB had excellent position and Roundtree kind of flung himself all over the dude's back.
IMO, if the DB is over the top of the WR, he's earned the right to slow down and prevent the guy from getting to the ball. If he's behind him and the ball is crappy and underthrown that is the offense not executing. You should only be able to commit pass interference with your arms or by actually hitting a guy. You have a right to your momentum, and to exist. Grabbing, holding, blowing a guy up before the ball gets there—all of these are legitimate calls. Running over a guy because he suddenly stops because the QB left the ball 10 yards short is not. I'm really tired of plays on which the offense is bailed out when a terribly-thrown ball turns into 15 yards.
Defensive backs are corporeal beings! Let's treat them like that! I'm founding the We're Made Of Matter Too League.
LOLWUT. I'm with Heiko:
Michigan by 13.5 over Northwestern? That's higher than the opening line for Michigan vs. Minnesota.
Home/away yeah but Northwestern is competitive against teams not named Purdue. This does make me feel so much better about that game. PREVIEW PREVIEW: Not picking the spread this time, probably.
Oh, right, defense. The defense held Minnesota to 13 points and under 300 yards—though if pass interference penalties were credited as offensive yards they would have gone over—and other than some Jake Ryan chatter above this 4000-ish word post has nothing to say about it, because that's just what happens. Being seventh in yardage defense just happens. Hail Mattison.
It's Michigan versus Minnesota week, at Minnesota, which means one thing. A University of Michigan quarterback is going to have a career day. In 2008, Nick Sheridan was 18 of 30 for 203 yards and a 127.8 QB rating. In 2006, Chad Henne was 17 of 24 for 284 yards, 3 TDs, and a QB rating of 211.5. That may not have been his best performance, but I don't ever remember seeing a QB rating greater than 200. In 2003, John Navarre was 33 for 47 for 353 yards and 2 TDs. During my college years, we put up these scoring numbers at Minnesota: 49, 52, 58, and 44 ('89, '91, '93, '96.)
I guess what I'm saying is, we shouldn't have been surprised by what transpired yesterday, but after that first quarter, I'm betting that I'm not the only one that was shocked by the next three quarters. After 9 consecutive TD-less quarters, we scored 5 in the next 3.
Blog folk. MVictors also made the trip, where he took in the game from the resplendent comfort of the press box. He was also not impressed by Gopher timeliness, and reminded me that I was also astounded by how into the Kiss Cam everyone was.
QUINTON WASHINGTON – To me it seemed like every time a Golden Gopher ball carrier got up from a run up the middle, Big Q was at the bottom of the pile. There may have been some questions about the strength of UM D-Line, but Washington is starting to clog up the middle, making it tough sledding for opponents to run on Michigan this year.
I think one of the hardest things college football fans have to reconcile is the ephemeral nature of players. When you consider depth charts, redshirting, and the like, we may get about three years with them at most, four if we're really lucky. We get to know them, we come to appreciate them for what they can do, and then, like that, as quickly as they came, they are gone, leaving only memories, and occasionally questions of what might have been.
Gardner looked like a Jim Tressel-led Terrelle Pryor: an athletic, tall quarterback being forced to play under center and make plays only when he's asked to while allowing the defense to carry the load. In this game, Gardner was able to do so, but this was against a Minnesota team that allowed 44 points to New Hampshire and 28 to Western Michigan and Purdue. Does Gardner's obvious improvement actually resemble a sustainable winning offense? That's debatable.
Tremendous bullets. Ditto TTB bullets. Maize and Blue Nation bullets. Maize and Go Blue recap. They're SEOing Drew Dileo's name into post URLs at SBN! (Don't bother with the "RESURGENT POWER RUNNING GAME?!?!?" comment if you hit up that article, as they have been taken care of.) Gopher takes from Fringe Bowl Team and Daily Gopher. I agree with TDG on Phillip Nelson—guy was extremely impressive. Holding the Rope column.
Repeat After Me: There is NO QB CONTROVERSY
After Devin Gardner's amazing game (minus the 1st quarter), I joked on Twitter that the easiest way to identify a so-called "Walmart Wolverine" on sports talk radio this week will be the guy calling in asking if there's a QB controversy now in A2.
There is not.
Devin was outstanding (minus the 1st quarter). He was outstanding by any measure, but more so since he hadn't gotten any meaningful game reps at quarter back since... Illinois 2011? But as soon as he's 100% again, Denard is Michigan's QB this season. Period.
Also yes so hard
Paid folk (and the Daily). Come on Baumgardner diviiiiiide and take into account connnnntext before you praise RB production. Numbers from same. Michigan had its first consecutive 90-yard TD drives ever, which… like… wow.
When Michigan has needed to scramble this year, it has turned to Gardner.
Gardner was never really given a fair shake. He came in as a five-star recruit marooned behind a once-in-a-generation talent. Next year, he’ll have to compete with another hyped recruit, Shane Morris, who better fits Michigan’s pro-style system.
This year, he was asked to move to receiver, though it’s unclear whether he had a choice. The extent of his protest was to say he still considers himself a quarterback.
On Saturday, Michigan thrust him into uncharted territory: a wide receiver given one week to prepare for quarterback. There was little run game to bail him out, and even with Robinson, Michigan hadn’t scored a touchdown in two games. Gardner had taken reps at quarterback in his first two years, but he had to learn new protections and run packages in days.
“I was pretty nervous coming in to know how I would handle that,” Gardner said. “But I feel like I handled it pretty well.”
It looked as though Gardner, a junior who moved to receiver following two seasons as Robinson's backup, was back at home -- and he said that's exactly how he felt.
"I play quarterback," he said, "so I feel good."
Is it possible Gardner is a better quarterback, now that he doesn't play quarterback?
"Defender removed, Gardner got up like a glacier tired of gouging lakes out of mountains."
Excellent piece of prose right there.
No offense but I don't think you're giving Gardner enough credit. I mean, did you see the Nebraska game?
He's spent all year at WR and played like he did on Saturday with one week to prepare. My biggest takeaway was his calm pocket presence and knowing when to take off. He is by no means Vince Young (TX version) but many of his scrambles looked similar.
"No offense but I don't think you're giving Gardner enough credit."
I could have told yuh that would be the case before the game even ended. Too much praise for Devin could lead to a discussion of Denard's shortcomings... Which could cause some philistine to conjur up a "QB controversy" and that would be sacrilege.
Sorry, but anyone who's been paying attention could have predicted that Brian would have a wet blanket take on Devin's performance. I think the reason for this is just as obvious.
Lets not get crazy. Devin threw some good completions on Saturday but the majority of them were broken plays with WRs that were very, very open. And his scrambling is as yakity sax as it gets. No way is he anywhere near the QB Denard is and its the reason is obvious - if he were, he would be the clear backup QB and not have been transferred to WR this season (regardless of the need for playmakers at that position). If a backup is a day-to-day challenger for the starting position, you don't take that guy and move him to a different position. That makes no sense.
. He was moved because we needed him desparatly at wr this season. Roundtree was non-existant last year and Gallon is to small to be a #1. We already know Hoke likes big wr's ..There's no way Hoke could not start Denard at qb anyway, so thats why he figured he could move DG to wr for the year.
It cracks me up how Brian is so quick to pooh on Devin's day and credit everyone but Gardner. Anyone who watches can tell you this Minnesota D is much better than they were last year. Gardner took over the O that had not scored a td in the last 2 games..the entire unit had been playing poorly. Because DG was able to make throws that Denard could never make the safeties backed off and we could run against 6-7 man boxes in the 2nd half.
Of course I'd still ratcher have a healthy senior Denard but DG deserves credt. Guys has always done everything asked of him. He came out in his first ever srart with very little prep in mid season and owned it. Think about what he just did, last week he was soo unprepared that even after Bellomy's 3rd pick the coaches never considered putting Devin in at qb. He had been at wr too long..one week later and he does this.
If we're trying to be journalistic in our approach to blogging, I think you should note that Narduzzi's comment regarding Denard was in response to a reporter explicitly asking him to compare Denard to Martinez. We may dislike his answer, but it's hardly a burn when he, you know, answered a direct question.
The REAL burn is the next sentence, when he calls both Martinez and Braxton Miller "tailbacks".
He's just answering a question and it's his opinion, but you have to admit he seems as though he is just trying to stick it to UM there. I mean, if you watched the game (or any of Nebraska's games) it is painfullly clear that Martinez is not even close to as fast as Denard.
In four years of watching Denard play I have never seen him caught from behind in a race to the endzone, whether a guy has an angle or not. Martinez has been caught from behind quite often when the only thing between him and the enzone is grass. I think it was Dennard who tracked him down in the game Saturday with Martinez a good 10 yards directly in front of him and running for the endzone. If he can't outrun Dennard, he can't out run Denard, plain and simple.
I think Narduzzi knows this, but just couldn't bring himself to give anything from UM any credit at all.
was Narduzzi asked to compare the speed of Martinez to Denard or Dennard?
Very good point, thanks for bringing this up.
That's a fair point to raise. However, the reporter did not ask Narduzzi to compare Denard to Usain Bolt. (Yes, I know that Denard said something along the lines of his 40 time being better than Bolt's - which is coming from a state champion track star and could well be true.) Narduzzi's snotty comment re: "even though [Denard] thinks he's faster than Bolt" was 100% Pure Colombian Douchebaggery.
Narduzzi answered a direct question, but couldn't help taking a cheap shot at Denard while doing so. Consequently, IMO Brian's point remains valid. I.e., Narduzzi's an ass.
Denard is answering a question. Bringing up the "faster than Bolt" thing is another example of that regime acting more like fans than coaches. I half expect to see Dantonio et. al., holding high their cans of Natty Light, cheering while a match descends toward the condemned (sofa).
One big takeaway from this game, though, should be how earth-shatteringly good a runner Denard is - he's essentially masked this pretty terrible run-game all year by himself.
I just looked it up, and he seems about the same size as Chris Johnson (probably a little lighter). Would you want your NFL team to draft him as a RB? I sure as hell would.
I'm guessing NFL teams will look at him and hope they can turn him into Percy Harvin. Returner, a few carries a game, routes designed to get him into space.
Yeah but how is his blocking?
Not to take anything away from Denard, but to be fair to the RBs in this comparison, when Denard runs he has an extra blocker while when Tousaint or Rawls runs they don't. That's the whole point of having a running QB, you get an extra blocker. I still think Denard would have a higher ypc than any of our RBs if he lined up as a true RB with Gardner under center, but losing a blocker would have to hurt Denard's ypc.
On our veer plays, how frequently does that RB block for Denard?
On the veer, he is not a blocker- the nature of the option has him going in a different direction. But on designed QB runs (not read options), the RB is often a lead blocker for Denard.
In thoses instances, yes, Denard has an extra blocker. However, the point of the option is that someone on the defense has to be responsible for the QB, as opposed the the I-Form where the QB turns and hands off. So, while Denard isn't actually blocking a guy, he is taking someone out of the play that would otherwise be trying to get the tailback.
Moral of the story is that the tailback and the QB have the same number of blockers, and Denard is better than our running backs at getting yards with terrible blocking.
Agree with this. Also, considering he did this with an awful running game and against (statistically) the best pass D in the conference is very impressive to me. I know it's Minnesota and all but still.
Denard is of course the starter when healthy but I feel much better about 2013 than I did last week at this time. I thought there was still a slim chance Gardner would get his Medical RS. Are we just completely giving up on this now? (QBForce.com Fist Shake!!)
I think it was a really good performance by Devin. It was certainly better than I expected. I totally agree that it gives me more hope for next year.
But Brian (and others) have made points worth considering. The long TD to Dileo was a great play made by Gardner because he extended the play with his scramble, but the throw itself was made without setting his feet and made to a wide open receiver (i.e. a totally blown coverage) so you can't really say that he threw a dart to him. Give him points for keeping the play alive, and for having a strong arm, but is that the type of play that is really reproducible? I remember a similar wild scramble later in the game where Minnesota did not blow the coverage where Gardner wound up.. (er, actually I forgot if he took the loss or threw it away in the end).
I was actually more impressed with the strike he threw to Gallon in stride down the sideline- that one was in the face of a picked up blitz on a double move. Not a TD throw, but I thought a far better play- better pass- that I want to see out of our QB.
Again, it was without a doubt a quality performance. But it was one performance, and it was not the all star performance that some seem to be making it into. I hope it is the first of many quality games we see from Devin, and that he continues to improve. He certainly has the talent to do so.
I hope he gets his redshirt, but there has been some stuff posted lately that the staff is not optimistic about this.
I have a strange feeling that we won't be seeing Denard for a while. Considering Bellomy is most likely done for the year per Hoke's press conference just now, please for the love of Jack Kennedy's ego and our sanity pray that Devin Gardner is made of titanium.
I agree with your takeaway, Shoe. Last week at this time I was sweatting bullets about next year but I feel much more comfortable about the QB position next year now.
1) Denard's elbow heals completely and he, along with Jake Ryan, leads us to an inspired victory over Ohio
2) Our O-line takes what is sure to be a rough week to heart and they finish the season by overperfoming in the manner they have most of the season (see Ohio thought above)
3 The powers that be in E. Lansing don't do anything to limit Sparty's inclination to utilize social media.
While I agree that Devin wasn't quite as awesome as some are lauding his performance to be, I can't help but shake my head when I read Brian's synopsis of Gardner as a passer in this game in light of the leeway he has accorded Denard this season.
This was Devin's first collegiate start after getting very few reps at QB for weeks (maybe the entire season) and he looked better passing the ball than Denard has in any game this season.
Denard is still the starter when he is healthy, of course, but Devin is already a more dangerous passing threat than Denard and there is at least some hope that UM will have a more balanced offense in 2013 (OL concerns may negatively impact this, however). Personally, I look forward to seeing it.
I also think Gardner did much better than Brian thinks. There were two plays where Minnesota was offsides and he recognized it both times attempting a sideline pass deep to Roundtree on both occasions. One was well-defended, the other was the pass interference play. Devin also started to handle the pressure better throughout the game. He was sacked twice early, but recognized the rush better as the game went on.
Certainly there were a few throws behind the receiver or a little short - room for improvement - but his TD pass to Jet Booted Gallon was put in a place where only the receiver could catch it (something you want). Gallon made a great catch, certainly, but the throw was where I would expect it to be.
I was not expecting polished QB play, but was largely impressed with what I saw. I think it gives teams next year something to really think about.
Yup. Check out the 5:00 mark of the "Devin Every Snap" video thread that DG Destroys just posted. The offsides/free play recognition was outstanding. One of those throws was to Jerald Robinson btw
Thanks - missed the number on the one play. Assumed it was Roundtree.
Excellent point that I have to second. I remember thinking the same thing during the game. I was very happy to see him recognize and take advantage of the free plays when they were given. That is definitely something that Denard was not doing.
Again, I think I have tended to downplay some of the credit given to Gardner, but this was definitely something he deserved a lot of credit for, especially as I think it is a particularly veteran move.
To be fair, the plays were only possible because we were throwing drop back passes under center. Something we don't do much of, rightfully so, with Denard in the game.
I think I can clear up the pass interference v no pass interference question Brian raised.
If the pass is thrown by the home team and there is ANY percieved contact whatsoever between reciever and defender and the pass falls incomplete = Pass Interference
If the pass is thrown by the visiting team and there is contact resulting in something less than a double amputation by the defender and the ball falls incomplete = great defense & no pass interference
This is the one call, IMO, more influenced by a home crowd than any other in the game.
Your point is true - unless the call would go against Michigan State and cause fans in the greater Big Ten viewing area to state, laugh, yell, text, tweet and/or blog "SPARTY NOOOOOO." This is known as a "SPARTY NOOOOO Event."
If a call (good, bad or complete BS) would cause a "SPARTY NOOOOOO Event," then the call must be made against MSU. There is no discretion and the play may not be reviewed. (There is some consideration of allowing the replay official to check MGoBlog, or other B1G fan blogs, to make sure there has been a SPARTY NOOOOO reaction. However, there is a legitimate concern that the replay official will never respond and will just continue to read MoGoBlog or BHGP rather than return to the crap-fest that is Spartan football.)
Sadly, a SPARTY NOOOOO Event is such an fundamental part of Big Ten Football, that it doesn't matter who suffers as collateral damage. A SPARTY NOOOOO Event is a force of nature that cannot be stopped or even contained. Thus, the PI call that allowed Nebraska to win on Saturday is entirely within the accepted rules of college football, even though it went aganst the home team.
Part of what makes Minn's pass D statistically great is that a) they played a really weak OOC schedule and b) everyone else has been able to run at will on them, making passing unnecessary. Nothing I saw on Saturday made Minn look like an elite or even above average pass defense.
is something the FEI rank supposedly does. According to that measure, Minnesota is the #60 defense in the country, right beside Illinois, Texas, Purdue, North Carolina, Clemson.
They may not be top 10, but they're a decent defense overall.
They did have a leaping interception (albeit on a terrible-decision-to-throw ball) and a couple of sacks early (pressure being part of pass D).
No one is saying they're Alabama, but they looked like a competent/average B1G defense to me.
THE BEST part of the Johnny Adams/Kenny Bell gif is Bell's reaction.
His arms just go limp and his shoulders slouch down like "Wothafuckman. You gotta be kidding me."
Adams was not kidding him. Seems like the 2012 Sparty motto is 60 minutes of unnecessary diving and a week of hilarious tweets.
Coupla real men just like Woodson v. Boston...errrr....nevermind.
It's tough when you play against the black and white team week in and week out.
The "Giffy" award, presented to the .gif of the year.
Johnny Adams, come on down!
Johnny Adams' winning the 2012 Giffy marks the first time this century that the award was not claimed by a player in the Italian premier soccer league, known as Serie A.
I can't believe this post doesn't have an "Inevitable Reading Comprehension Fail" tag.
EDIT: I'm going to expand on this. I can't believe how many reading fails are in this thread's comments.
Brian said his reaction to Gardner was on the conservative end of the spectrum, comparing his assessment to people who described Devin's performance thusly: "Amazing", "Stellar", "WOW!", and "made Denard look utterly expendable."
I don't think that saying that level of praise might be a little overboard is being too critical of Gardner. Good god, people. Read. It isn't that hard.
This. Thank you. It's so black or white for many people these days. I'm a very grey person when it comes to just about, well everything. Meaning I know how to praise and I know how to criticize but much of what I end up coming up with is a middle ground notion of whatever the subject. In football, it's taking into account the opponent, how certian plays unfold(ed), situations that unfold(ed), history of a player/team etc. etc. and coming up with conclusions that have a sense of what went well and what went bad/could be worked on and improved.
So for one to say that Devin did well and put the team in position to win, but also take a reality check and go through all the "facts" and establish that he was NOT "great" and happened to do a few things that weren't rainbow-ey and butterfly-ey, would be a logical synopsis of the day; to others it's blasphemy and Devin deserves a Gold Medal dammit. Hyperbole aside, maybe it's how I was raised and coached as a youth, but always striving to be better and looking to fix any and all flaws is the attitude to have to achieve elite success (some of us fans of course carry this mentality over toward the players/teams we watch). Not, well he won and looked kinda pretty at times against a sh**ty team, let's hold back any criticisims we have because we shouldn't have any if the first place.
The former mentaility that I touched upon, that some fans/bloggers carry the realistic/what could be better approach over to their rooting interests, is what some fans look upon as "being a hater". That is wrong.
Ah yes. The thread where idiots pop out from the wood-work to argue over the question:
"Is the all-time yardage leader at the winningest program in college football history any good?"
My brother is one. He doesnt post here but he is adament that the team would be much, MUCH better if Denard was a slot reciever and not our QB. And he spent most of Saturday lavishing praise on each and every pass of Devon's and remarking that "this is what you get when you have a REAL QB under center and not a slot reciever."
The idiots are out there and some of them (like my brother) are season ticket holders.
Your brother is absolutely correct. Plus is rude to call your own brother an idiot.
Also typing all these posts on my phone is leading to numerous spelling errors. For that I apologize.
You haven't here, but I'm aware of your history. I'm just waiting.
I'm not upset about Gardner's performance in the least. I think he played well.
I think he's incapable of papering over our terrible run-game, which Denard is. That's not really his fault - he's not Denard with the ball in his hands. Fine.
What I'm laughing at is your swipe at Brian for "excusing" every mis-step Denard has taken. I recall you being a guy that didn't think he was a real quarterback, so that seems consistent.
Mario Manningham bailed out Eli Manning and the Giants in the Super Bowl, too. Sometimes those guys have to make spectacular plays. It comes with the territory.
For a guy that was playing receiver for the majority of the season, Gardner did a masterful job of overcoming a shaky 1st quarter. I feel better about next year.
Looking like a young Judge Reinhold.