I hate to see players go. Hopefully they can catch on somewhere.
FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
Come on guys, do you know there's a basketball game tonight?
Anyway: along with Thomas Rawls, Michigan has announced that Josh Furman and Richard Ash are exiting the program. Both would have been fifth year seniors and can presumably transfer and be eligible immediately as long as they have graduated.
Both Furman and Ash were pressed into the first extensive duty of their career late in the year, with Furman getting a couple of starts due to injury in the safety corps and Ash being rolled out to see if he could somewhat delay the runaway train that was the OSU rushing offense. The answer there was NOPE, and Furman was also not too good in his limited time.
Michigan now has 85 slot allotted for next year's roster, and there are a couple of other players in unfavorable depth chart situations who might look for greener pastures themselves.
I hate to see players go. Hopefully they can catch on somewhere.
careers. The past efforts for the team are appreciated.
More space for recruits!
Not if "Michigan now has 85 slot (sic) allotted for next year's roster."
I'm not sure where 85 comes from. It is actually 82 unless you are counting some walkons (Kerridge and Glasgow are the only returning ones that had scholarships last year as Glanda and Reynolds are finishing their 5th year) and the return of Hagerup. Also, we don't really have any realistic targets left this year (maybe McDowell if we are really, really lucky). Since all of these guys would have run out of eligibility after next year anyways, it doesn't really open up any new slots then either, so this attrition actually has very little effect on recruiting.
Agree with those numbers...in the thread about this on the message board, I had come up with 83 assuming no walkons (Kerridge, G Glasgow, R Glasgow, Burzynski, K Allen, and JJ McGrath) get scholarships. But I was including Hagerup in my numbers so if you take him out I get 82 also.
EDIT: Using those numbers, I see only 12 scholarships available for 2015 class assuming no more commits this year and no walk-ons get scholarships in 2015. The latter assumption seems implausible if Graham Glasgow wins a starting role again in 2014.
And I still will be. He breaks tackles and runs hard. I really wish he would have got a shot last year, and wonder if he was in the dog house for some reason. I'll have a new reason to pay attention to Central next year. Good luck to all these guys in their future!
i wish Rawls the best, but unlike some, I never saw the potential many speak of. He had some opportunities and couldn't make a difference. Good luck at CMU, fire up Chips.
Rawls went down when the win changed direction.
I also never saw any flashes of being great.
But hope that they either got their degrees or are very close.
What does this mean for available slots in the 2014 Class? Does it open up more than one?
part that reminds you that while the game is an equal opportunity venture, that no matter how you try to gloss it over, it still comes down to what have you done for me lately. You know, after you got the offer and committed. Where are you on the depth chart?
There are many stories in both the naked and forested realm of college sports, and not fitting in to the program's longterm plans, prompts a businesslike approach. Given the physical and academic sacrifice this chance opportunity tolls, when it doesn't toll for thee, it's time to flee for greener pastures of PT. Good luck to all those concerned: T Rawls, Josh Furman and Richard Ash. We appreciate your time at Michigan and wish you well going forward.
Or you can accept that the NFL is probably not going to come calling and just finish your degree and try to be a good teammate.
I certainly don't begrudge anyone for transferring when they don't see the field, but I don't agree that it's the only option.
I'd say assuming they've gotten their degrees, it is a win-win ... they can go somewhere they will get more playing time and the team opens up a space on the roster.
Basically need one in 2014 or two in 2015 now. Also, its a good thing Bryan Mine is enrolling early
Is he like that Northfleet fellow?
Paper that shall remain nameless headline: Exodus of Mich Football Players Continues
Are we horribly thin at NT now (especially if Pipkins does not recover in time)? We have a slew of DTs; can one move over? What are our options?
And we will see if Hurst or Poggi can bulk up and play the 1 tech. I'd like to see Beyer bulk up to play the 5 which would leave Wormley Strobel and Godin minute at the 3.
Henry can play nose and Hurst and Mone are both guys will will get a lot of reps with Pipkins out. Considering how often we pull the nose, I don't expect it to be a problem.
When players who aren't really going to get playing time leave, everybody wins. They get to continue their education someplace where they might play. Michigan gets an extra scholly. Good luck to Furman and Ash, and thanks for all of the hard work.
I think all of our 3 Techs are going to be going on an all pizza diet for the foreseeable future.
We shold have enough beef in the middle. Even if Pipkins somehow isn't ready by September, Hurst and Henry should be, with guys like Mone and Pallente available for third string depth.
Class of 2010!!! Lest we forget
that with the dropping of these players that 3 additional players could get offers for the 2014 and/or 2015 classes. Any diamonds in the rough that M might make offers to in the last 2 weeks of recuiting for the 2014 class? Is it possible that a JUCO player or two might be considered?
We really don't take JUCO players...there have been a handful of exceptions, but it doesn't really ever happen.
Michigan was expecting probably a player or two leaving. Technically they only have one scholarship remaining if no one leaves now.
I believe it's McDowell or bust for 2014.
Who else do you see leaving?
Not to speculate who may or may not leave. Not fair to the athlete.
Is a pretty good candidate..,
I'll miss dreadlocked players from the Muck.
Sad day for sure. Best of luck to all three. And here's to hoping we grab another kid or two out of the Muck some day.
Good luck, young men. I hope you make wise decisions that lead to success in life.
From the fan side, I have logged in every day since the bowl game with a cringe, fearing the "exit" posts. Having this round be 3 older guys with clear depth chart issues doesn't feel too bad.
How you doin' man, we need to get together again, hope you and the mrs. are well!
As for the 3 departees, good luck fellas, hope you do well in your future endeavors, thanks for your time in AA.
Is Ash the Last of The Pahokee-ans?
Good luck to all three of these guys. We could have really used Ash this year with Pipkins returning from ACL surgery. Anyone remember when Fred Jackson called Thomas Rawls the next Mark Ingram? Then goes on to barely give him any touches.....LOL
Mone seeing significant time=bad things are probably gonna happen
I don't think that's true, depending on your definition of significant. Mone is a highly-touted kid who enrolled early. Those types of players often make impacts as frosh.
Best of luck. Not that surprising, but does make me worry a bit about the defensive line depth. But you don't want to have kids stuck on the depth chart for no good reason either.
It's normal for some players to flame out. Happens at every program. So, it says nothing about the coaches' abilities to develop players.
The jury is still out on that one.
Right, because every, single player can be coached up well enough to produce.
/s <-- this
Go Blue & good luck in whatever comes next.
If you find yourself at the bottom of the depth chart, there's motivation to finish your Degree in a timely manner so you can go contribute elsewhere. Its honorable to the UM and honorable to both programs. I'm sure the players leaving benefitted from the good strength program and the good coaching. And I hope they continue to carry the class of Michigan wherever they go in life.
A college team is built around managing turnover and this is one of the quirks. Bottom line is I think its a good system.
So where would we be more concerned from this news? Safety or NT?
Probably safety, but really neither. Neither of these guys were very good in the time they saw, but Furman was the better of the two. In reality, both guys were at about replacement level, so whoever takes their place on the depth chart will be at least as good.
Hopefully this means we see more Dymonte. I remember Furman giving me quite a bit of frustration when he played. But good luck to the players! Too bad Rawls couldn't have rowed his way over to Kalamazoo instead!