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By Brian — August 6th, 2009 at 10:37 AM — 39 comments
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Er. Rich Rodriguez called into WTKA this morning and dropped one important bit of news: Justin Turner and Adrian Witty are not cleared yet. Which… uh… directly contradicts multiple statements from Rodriguez himself—or at least directly contradicts how those statements were reported—from Big Ten Media Days.

A transcription of the answer to the question "All the freshmen are ready to go, right?"

Not exactly. We've still got a couple that are working through clearinghouse issues. This recently came up. Just about all of them were here for the summer with the exception of a couple guys, and those two are still not resolved. We're still waiting on Justin Turner to get some information in. We're hoping that will be before Sunday. [Garbled] within a week. The other one is Adrian Witty, who's got a test score we're still waiting on. So he's kind of in limbo right now. … Hopefully either one or both of them will get resolved very quickly.

…

If it happens [later in camp] we'll bring them in a week later.

So it sounds like Turner's thing is just paperwork. Witty, on the other hand, is still waiting for a qualifying score and might not make it in.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:41 AM | RR SAID AT BT MEDIA DAY, "I (Score:1)
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RR SAID AT BT MEDIA DAY, "I THINK EVERYONE IS CLEARED." Both the freep, and you Brian reported this inaccurately. I just assumed you heard otherwise and then posted it.

Ifyou go back to the day you posted it you'll see I tried pointing this out. I'm sure the freep just misled you, as it does all of us.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:43 AM | Please (Score:1)
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Keep repeat posting this in every thread.

Come on, bud. Great, you were right, other people were wrong.

Point made.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:44 AM | I'm just trying to point out (Score:1)
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I'm just trying to point out the freep sucks. You disagree?

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:47 AM | No - I Don't Disagree w/That (Score:1)
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Just don't think it needs to be repeated.

I think people get it you were right, and it sounds like you are criticizing Brian as well, which I don't really think is necessary.

One reminder was probably enough.

This is Michigan.
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August 6th, 2009 at 10:46 AM | Congrats (Score:1)
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You were an assbag in that post and you're a nozzle in this one!

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:47 AM | Why is everyone giving me (Score:1)
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Why is everyone giving me negative points. I was just tryin to avoid getting let down (like we all are today with this bad news). Jeez, thanks a lot.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:51 AM | Because you sound like a dick (Score:1)
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Same reason I get negged for 90% of my comments.

If you sound like an ass you get negged.

Deal with it, don't cry about it like a little bitch.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:44 AM | So much for the insiders. (Score:1)
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So much for the insiders.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:46 AM | Ah, the perils of believing (Score:1)
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Ah, the perils of believing GBMW.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:46 AM | Clearinghouse (Score:1)
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Does anyone actually know the procedures when it comes to being accepted and cleared by the Clearinghouse? I ask because it seems to be a mystery to most everyone on the boards...

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:48 AM | And apparently (Score:1)
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a mystery to the staff, given these weird situations over the last few incoming classes?

Bureaucracy, BAH!

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:22 AM | You have to have a 2.0 GPA (Score:1)
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You have to have a 2.0 GPA and I think a 17 on your ACT to qualify. Basically you send in your junior transcript, your final senior year transcript, and your ACT score in. I don't know if there are different requirements for other states (like Ohio's test.. or whatever).

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:27 AM | Actually, no (Score:1)
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It's a sliding scale. The lower your GPA, the higher your test scores must be. So, when you just look at the minimums for both, it is misleading.

Plus, there are core courses you have to have taken and passed, as well as rules for homeschooling. There are a number of things that must be covered, and failing to adequately address any of them will lead to failure to clear.

http://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycenter/hs/d1_standards.pdf

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:30 AM | Then on top of that, (Score:1)
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do schools have their own requirements? People claim that ND, Stanford... have higher than minimum requirements. Do they, or does M?

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:32 AM | Yes, and yes. Most of the (Score:1)
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Yes, and yes. Most of the schools in the Big 10 have higher standards than the NCAA bar.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:29 AM | There's actually a sliding (Score:1)
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There's actually a sliding scale, where the higher your GPA, the lower your ACT has to be. But there are multiple "clearinghouses", so to speak. There's the GPA/ACT restriction which you mentioned, but you also have to have your diploma. My guess is that Turner isn't officially a graduate until the test is passed. Also, individual schools can set higher (though not lower) bars. Most of the Big 10 schools (usually by dictate outside of the athletics departments) have higher standards than the baselines set by the NCAA.

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August 6th, 2009 at 10:55 AM | camp start date (Score:1)
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when is it? provide specifics if you know, e.g, when freshmen report, qbs, full camp, etc.

thanks

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August 6th, 2009 at 4:59 PM | Camp starts (Score:1)
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Sunday August 10th. Rich Rod said so today on WTKA.

"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" --Alfred Lord Tennyson/ John Sheridan B5

 

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:03 AM | I would think on Turner (Score:1)
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I would think on Turner they're just waiting for his test to officially come back, even though they know or are sure he passed it. Nahmean?

Kinda like we sometimes know a player is announcing for Michigan, but it isn't official until the actual announcement.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:22 AM | probably right (Score:1)
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This is just a guess, but I'll be Turner knows he passed his test and now just needs to get an official copy sent by the Ohio school system (or whomever) to the clearinghouse. Given that the results only officially came out a few days ago, this strikes me as likely. Again, though, I'm only speculating.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:26 AM | That would be awesome. Hope (Score:1)
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That would be awesome. Hope you're right.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:24 PM | The weird thing (Score:1)
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Hasn't Turner been in Ann Arbor since July? He and Witty have both been practicing with the team. If Turner knew he didn't pass because he was given the heads up, wouldn't he have stopped practicing with Michigan?

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:35 PM | Not that I have any insider info (Score:1)
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But I don't think anything matters until the NCAA rules. So even if he had a "heads up" which I find somewhat hard to believe anyway, if the Clearinghouse doesn't like what they are seeing, they can flag it for investigation and leave you hanging regardless.

So you might as well show up and practice and hope for the best.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:22 AM | I was trying to be critical (Score:1)
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I was trying to be critical of the freep, which is where I believe Brian was misled. I love this blog, and apologize to Brian for not being more clear with my posts.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:21 AM | I was really excited about (Score:1)
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I was really excited about Witty! Dammit I hope he still comes!

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:47 AM | You and the coaching staff.. (Score:1)
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You and the coaching staff.. hopefully he Gallons through!

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August 6th, 2009 at 5:04 PM | Things will work out! (Score:1)
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I'm confident that both players will make it through the clearinghouse.

"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" --Alfred Lord Tennyson/ John Sheridan B5

 

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:52 AM | So if Witty doesn't (Score:1)
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qualify and he was part of the recruiting "package deal" with Denard Robinson, I wonder how Denard will respond to such a development.

I hope JT and Adrian both qualify.

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August 6th, 2009 at 4:53 PM | What I'm hearing is Witty is (Score:1)
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What I'm hearing is Witty is a really good player. Before his injury teams were scouting Witty hard. He was on that 4 x 100 team in Florida. I know people are sweet on D. Robinson, I think he will be a receiver if QB does not work. Forcier is that good.

This year D. Robinson will back up Forcier. When Gardener gets to Michigan it will get very interesting.

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August 6th, 2009 at 11:54 AM | I'm freaking out, man. (Score:1)
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I'm freaking out, man.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:15 PM | You (Score:1)
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are freaking out...man.

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August 6th, 2009 at 12:26 PM | Turner andWitty (Score:1)
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I really hope they both make it, because we need all the depth we can get at corner.

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:49 PM | So what's up with Witty. Do (Score:1)
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So what's up with Witty. Do they think someone else took the test for him?

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:52 PM | This shit happens every year. (Score:1)
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This shit happens every year. It's not a question of them thinking he cheated. It happened with Witherspoon last year.

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August 6th, 2009 at 1:54 PM | what, exactly, (Score:1)
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happened w/ witherspoon? how does rutgers get him in and M has trouble?

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August 6th, 2009 at 4:09 PM | Schools can admit any student (Score:1)
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Schools can admit any student that they want - regardless of whether they pass through the clearinghouse or not. The Clearinghouse only determines who can play sports.

Michigan has a policy (strangely bent for Marques Slocum) of not accepting non-qualifiers. Many schools will, and will hope that any remedial courses or other coursework will get them eligible for the following year. That's why Witherspoon got to go to Rutgers.

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August 6th, 2009 at 3:42 PM | GBMW strikes again! (Score:1)
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GBMW not only PREMATURE but also FULL OF SHIT. No sugarcoat.

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August 6th, 2009 at 3:47 PM | bullchips (Score:1)
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bullchips

No question, Jim.

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