Yep. Just heard about it. Unbelievable and pathetic recruiting in state, but, yeah, I guess that doesn't matter...
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Yep. Just heard about it. Unbelievable and pathetic recruiting in state, but, yeah, I guess that doesn't matter...
i hope that you're wrong. and, let's just wait til Jan 3rd..
Told you to be careful.
though. I hope this is just Will trying to screw with the guy and build up his choice at the game.
and he's still enrolled. He's blue.
I am not going to melt down over what school a teenager decides to go to. Seriously, people need to stop living and dying over recruits' commitments.
Having said that, if the kid really has enrolled at Michigan, then this can't be true.
I'll wait for something a bit more definitive to come down the line.
Just doesn't make any sense at all for news like this to come out now that's all.
I won't believe you because I don't want to
That's kind of been the theme for a number people in our fanbase the past 6 months or so.
On the other hand, you seem pretty quick to believe everything negative that comes up, and to draw pessimistic conclusions from scant evidence.
Hmm. I'm not going to defend my position on RR again. I've done that a number of times. I wouldn't call a horrible 3-9 season, numerous decommits and internal squabbling within the athletic department "scant evidence."
I respect your views, and I don't agree with the ad hominem attacks some people have made on you. I just think it's a bit hypocritical for you to scoff at people reflexively assuming the best when you seem to reflexively assume the worst.
I refuse to believe this.
I'm just going to go back to not following recruiting. It's just better that way.
this up on the boards:
In the last 15 minutes I have been talking with our guys down in San Antonio and people close to Big Will. I will caution you not to jump off any nearby ledges just yet. I will talk more about this in chat where I will give you some other possible scenarios (based on the talks I've had with people today) here that may or may not talk you away from that ledge. Stay tight for awhile, though.
I'm going to make some calls. I won't be able to post for awhile though, so I'll try to get it on here from my phone if I hear anything.
(this just seems weird that he's been so quiet, and now he opens up to a guy that he knows will report what he says)
i hope campbell's mom doesn't allow it
things have happened. I'll wait until after signing day to freak out.
I'm not entirely shocked if this ends up being true, slightly let down but hardly shocked.
that Will... he's such a kidder.
It would be so awesome if we just acted like he was kidding for the next 4 years.
I'm laughing so hard. There is no point in worrying about all this, we can't change it.
named William Michael Campbell enrolled on the same time and day as Tate Forcier, Vlad, Hawthorne and Mike Jones for the Winter semester. This is misdirection.
Guess someone else saw the clip too.
Wow. Southern family values?
WOW, Hope Big Will is ready to have Sunday dinners with his new family. Sheesh
This could be the biggest hit to recruiting. If this IS true, then the DC IS a big deal and it should have gotten done before the holidays and RR should have been all over Big Will.
He's only one kid, but the number of big time de-commits is getting too large to ignore. We can't change the facts, but no one else is having these same problems in recruiting. I'm behind RR 100%, but you have to question what is going on when 4 and 5 * guys de-commit from a major program.
Maybe Shafer's leaving and the 3-9 record have had more of an effect than anyone thought.
They are only 17-18 yr old kids, but right now our program needs they 17-18 yr olds to rebuild this storied program. There certainly isn't much to hang our hats on at this point.
Didn't he decommit long before Shafer left?
when people try and connect the dots between potentially bad events. Or when looking for a scapegoat. SS leaving has had no discernible effect so far. Will was already decommitted. Him coming back is a bonus.
What does the Campbell video say? It won't load for me...
That he liked what was out of state because he enjoyed his visits, he's down to Florida, Miami and LSU and that he likes those "Southern values".
Also that he has eliminated Michigan, directly from Big Will himself
he says basically that he's not interested in Michigan because he wants to get out of state. he's narrowed his list down to 3 schools: LSU, Miami, and Florida. In no particular order.
Look, he's 17/18... he might have said "Aw, hell" when it snowed last week and decided to leave the state.
his re-committment goes toward that change and the lack of defensive leadership. I doubt it's just about getting out of state. Maybe one of these schools is offering him more than a scholarship?
Or maybe he doesn't want to go to Michigan? Why do people find this so hard to accept.
at all. Speculation is fine but don't speak so authoritatively.
I think you're scrutinizing this a little too much. He's a teenager. His thought processes may not be as sophisticated as yours or mine.
way to break it "Big Willie Style". Good luck to him wherever he goes.
And thanks to thee1 for posting the video, so we could here it straight from the horses mouth.
Not for nothing, I think he's Blue. A guy I know, a certain Sam Webb told me so.
It's ok guys. My insider, who is best friends with the mom of the girl that dated that guy that hooked up with the chick that babysat Will Campbell when he was 4 years old says he's blue and not to worry this is just a way to get more attention for his decision at the AA game.
Southern Values and they stay together were the 2 reasons that attracted him outside of MI. He also said he wanted to get out of the state to see what's out there. Oh well... He would have been an awesome pick up.
a long time ago.
It's not like he was committed to us for months and months, "recruiting other guys to come here", supposedly enrolling early, etc. etc., and then he enrolled at UTEP.
We've had plenty of time to recruit other d-linemen.
Supposedly, Dequinta Jones and Pearlie Graves are now considered soft verbals. It's imperative that Rich Rod hangs on to those two guys.
I heard Dan O'Neill is also soft.
RoJo's been a silent commit for months so everything should be fine. One 5 star is more than enough for one class.
If Will had committed to some other school, de-committed and looked around and then picked us, does that make us a better recruiter than the original school, or did said school screw up somehwere. It's real hard to be objective when you add up all the little "things" that have been happening over the last few months.
I really don't want to dwell on the negative and I DO support the staff 100%, but Newsome, Fera, Campbell, and to a lesser extent Beaver and there were a couple of others, WTF?
Yes we will survive this and maybe we'll never feel any negative effects of it, but some questions have to come to mind about all this
I have a hard time putting this on the staff. You're right the results might lead us to objectively question them, but RR's reputation is that of an aggresive/successful recruiter.
I do wonder how much of an affect negative publicity has had on recruits. In all seriousness, could other high school stars poking fun at Michigan hurt the pride of a verbal commitment and cause them to back out?
We know that current commitments are great recruiters, but I wonder if the reverse effect is destroying our efforts: i.e. Michael Brewster talking to our recruits last year about appy state and guys like Anthony Fera ripping our program on Lalota's facebook. I'd chalk it up to losing record, and like you I support the staff 100% here ...Winning cures all.
Will Campbell de-committed in what, August?
Just because you chose to believe the recruiting gossip that he was still a "lock" doesn't mean anything has really changed. He de-committed almost six months ago.
could be the first snowball of the avalanche. There aren't that many 4-5* guys left to fill any more holes that might come up at this late date.
William Campbell isn't exactly an unusual name.
And for what it's worth, William Campbell's uniqname was created two hours after the rest of the early enrollees. Curious.
It's okay, he's not a Michigan Man anyway...
Next bad thing to happen -
Graham is going to declare for the NFL draft.
The way things are going I would not be shocked at all.
-Is he still announcing on January 3rd? If so, how can he claim he doesn't have a leader yet?
-Why did he go out of his way to eliminate Michigan if he's announcing on the 3rd? Why not just have the announcement be between 4 schools instead of 3.
Maybe I'm reading too into things, but none of that adds up really. I think he's still picking Michigan but just trying to add excitement as his name being in the directory sorta took the wind out of his announcement sails.
He wants to enroll early, right?
Michigan classes start Jan 5
Florida classes start Jan 6
LSU classes start Jan 12
Miami classes start Jan 20
If he chooses Michigan or Florida, I would think that he better be enrolled asap since classes start in about 1 week.
If he chooses LSU or Miami he has an extra week or two.
According to the video he might be favoring LSU... so if he decides on Jan 3 does that leave him with enough time to enroll and be in class by Jan 12?
He's probably already decided. Jan. 3 is just when he announces.
Incidentally, doesn't LSU also have a DC vacancy?
LSU forced out their Co-DC's after one year. One of them being Doug Mallory.
1) Know that Big Will's middle name is Michael?
2) Know if he's the kind of jokester who would rule out a school one week before committing to same school?
3) Know who's information led us to believe he was a re-commit "lock"?
2) I don't think this is the kind of thing you joke around about. However, he could be trying to build it up to get some attention, as others have posted.
3) Pretty much every source out there thought UM was a lock. Hell, USC and Carrol were so sure that he was Blue, that they weren't going to even bother recruiting him.
Is this all just misdirection and is Will getting prepared for the spread?
Big Will is just messing around so he can set up a nice "SIKE!" moment at the Army All-American Game and committ to Michigan. Maybe he was a little bummed about everyone finding out he was enrolled, and decided to have some fun.
I would be shocked if he didn't go to Michigan - I think this is shot back to us for stealing his thunder and it being in the newspapers. I don't think this guy is dumb and I think he is giving us a run for our money.
If he was to choose one of those schools, I would actually think it has to be Miami. Weather and Randy Shannon are too very good reasons to go somewhere else. But he is going to Michigan and all of this is his way of screwing with us because - frankly - they guy had one joy like all of his boys have who are big time recruits and getting to wait right till the bitter end to build up the drama and then tell us. We killed that by being jerks and outing him. So frankly, either way it goes, we deserve it. I am actually looking forward to his announcement at the AA game. Should be fun and anticlimactic
YES. He is just upset that ppl found out he is going to UM. he's friends are going to Michigan. plus, nothing adds up at all.
Tacopants is still a solid commitment.
This makes me curious as to what Lesticles did to him on top of the stadium overlooking LSU.
I hope he comes and all that, blah, blah, blah...
but the denial from some of you is incredible.
The five steps to the recovery of ANY loss are as follows:
1.) Denial. (ie..this ISN'T HAPPENING TO ME!!!)
2.) Anger. (How Dare he/she do this to me?)
3.) Self-Reflection. (What did I do to contribute/add to this unfortunate outcome?? And did I learn something positive from it??)
4.) Acceptance. (I have to go on with my life and make an attempt to take care of my kids/parents/pets/siblings..they have been neglected due to my 'pity party'.)
5.) Indifference. Game over. I win.
How are we gonna recover my friend if we can't be in denial? (Being Sarcastic)
Not denial - realism. One recruit does not make or break this team, this a very solid recruiting class - there will be some last minute pulls as well that will surprise us and not many high profile drops going forward (Dequinta Jones being the only one I see jumping ship). I would be SHOCKED beyond all belief if Will Campbell ends up anywhere but Michigan. He is a great kid, and frankly a really funny kid (I met him at a Cass Tech alumni dinner - low key, affable, and really funny). This is a big joke to him, and all of our panic responses are even funnier in the grand scheme. I think he will put on a variety of hats at the same time and then painfully reveal Michigan. And if I'm wrong - I welcome open ridicule from everyone. But this isn't denial, it's a true belief that he is coming here. I feared Beaver would leave, and I fear Jones will leave. They committed very early and are not near the school and really have no affiliation (mother, brother, father, sister who went to the school). Everyone who has left is logical - including McNeal, Newsome, Fera and Beaver. We will lose Jones as well. But not Campbell. Greaves to me is the unknown - he has no reason to want to come here but if Oklahoma wanted him badly, they would be more aggressive pursuing him and they haven't been. This is why I think Greaves comes and Jones goes.
I just checked for Big Will on the directories of each three schools - he's not listed.
I'm inclined to think that its just a make a bigger splash when he announces.
Can you blame will if he doesn't go to Michigan. I still think there theres a lot of uncertainty in terms of defense, so he might go with a more sure thing at LSU or Florida. Not to mention its a hell lot warmer down there then it is in this frozen tundra.
Not sure if this has been posted. I just read an article in Rivals where they stated that the Otter said that a Michigan hat WILL be on the table but he still does not know which school he will choose. Apparently Lalota is trying to convince him to AA but the otter's roommate thinks LSU will be the pick. The otter said that there was no falling out with Blue or anything that lowered his perception of Blue.
It seems like whoever you talk to, everyone has a different opinion as to where he is going.