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Yes, Ray Guy is finally, after a 23-year wait, elected to the NFL Hall Of Fame. Guy was, without a doubt, the greatest punter in NFL History.
If you're old enough, like me, to have watched those Raiders teams of the 70's and 80's, you'll know what I mean when I say this: Guy was as instrumental as any player on those great Raiders teams in the success that franchise had in that era. He was so skilled in so many aspects of the game that, even though he was obviously a full-time punter, he was also athletic enough to be the Raider's 3rd-string QB during part of his career.
But back to punting skills---Guy had them all:
Hang time? check!
Net Yards per Punt? check!
Coffin Corner? check!
Tackling ability? check!
IMO, it's about time that this man was enschrined. He should have been inducted a couple decades ago.
Congratulations to Michigan great Barry Larkin on being elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame!
Larkin, who spent his entire 19-year career with the Cincinnati Reds, was the lone player inducted into the Hall of Fame on his third year of the ballot. Larkin received 86% of the vote of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, eclipsing the 75% needed for induction.
[Ed-M: Bump'ed like Elliott]
Brian got me thinking about who deserves to be in a Michigan ring of honor, so I did the only thing I know: Dump a bunch of data into a spreadsheet and rank them arbitrarily. I gave a point for being the College Hall of Fame, Michigan's Hall of Honor, Michigan retiring their number, points equal to the number of years being an All American, being in the top four in the Heisman (another 2 for winning it), and up to a point for winning other post-season awards. One could include other considerations, such as championships, captaincy, or being President of the United States.
The table below presents the data, sorted first by points and then year.
I would think anyone Chappuis and above deserves to be in.
I included only some 2-point guys of interest in the table below, most of whom aren't in Michigan's Hall of Honor or the Hall of Fame.
Coaches aren't included, except Kipke who is there because of his playing, though I don't know how much of his playing versus coaching got him in the Hall of Fame.
Why is Benbrook not in Michigan's Hall of Honor?
Obviously newer guys benefit from the various awards now available. The Heisman was first awarded in 1935. I would think Heston could have won it.
In 1939 Harmon finished 2nd in the Heisman voting to Nile Kinnick before winning it in 1940.
The All of American data are a bit surprising. Gerald Ford isn't listed. I had thought Carter was a three-year All American. There may be other surprises. I used a list from the NCAA (data source below), which made it easy, but the list may be flawed.
|Tom Harmon||37-40||y||y||y||2||2nd, 1st||Maxwell|
|Desmond Howard||89-92||y||y||1||1st||Maxwell, Camp, Nagurski, Bednarik|
|Charles Woodson||95-97||1||1st||Camp, Thorpe|
|Bob Chappuis||42, 46-47||y||y||1||2nd|
|Adolph Schulz||04-05, 07-08||y||y||1|
|LaMarr Woodley||03-06||1||Lombardi, Hendricks|