this may be of some local interest
The Freep just posted the top-50 recruits in the state and where they are going to college. After Campbell, MSU seemed to have a run on the in-state talent, though read into that what you will.
That said, what do people think of RR's in-state recruiting. Sure, UM can get virtually any big-name kid in MI that it wants now, but do you think that D'Antonio's continued inroads with the local coaches may erode this ability later on? I'm still of the belief that RR maintains good relationships with local pipelines like Cass Tech, but I'm also worried that the rest of the state may be overlooked for the sake of other states.
Just in case you aren't already sick of talking about the hockey assault or haven't already lost enough respect for Rosenberg after his bashing of RichRod, this comes along:
Apparently this incident won't be over until we point out how awful Bruce Kampfer is and that Tropp is just a normal kid who made a mistake he immediately regretted after Steve Kampfer almost hurt his knee.
I made a list of MSU players who went on to the NHL in order to analyze a comment by one fellow poster in the wake of this weekend's gooning.
These are the players I saw in college (sorry, the only green I ever saw Bob Essensa in was those ridiculous 99-00 Phoenix 3rd jerseys)
Justin Abdelkader: Young, big guy called up to help with Red Wings' cup run at end of the season. A future checking liner or perhaps Holmstrom role player once he learns to make better use of his size, since his speed and skills aren't on par with Detroit's loaded front six.
David Booth: Speedy scorer who is coming alive this year on Florida's top line. Big, physical forward does a lot of one-on-one. Not a great team player.
Rod "The Bod" Brind'Amour: A great player, one of the best defensive centers in the NHL during his prime. Big workoutaholic who played smart hockey and was used on big, bruising scoring lines (replacing Lindros in Philly during his many concussings, and the famous BBC line), but the Big Bod was never much of a checker.
Anson Carter: At his height, thought to be a perfect checking wing for a 2nd scoring line. Journeyman whose game was based on size and checking
Steve Guolla: No single part of his game really stood out.
Adam Hall: Disappointing power forward who hasn't reached his tremendous upside -- Nashville fans say it's cause he was afraid of the front of the net.
Shawn Horcoff: Strong positional player, hard-working, good skater, decently sized, but not enough vision to become elite and shies away from contact.
Duncan Keith Good skater for a defenseman with Top Four potential. Great offensive instincts. Playes a finesse game and gets pushed around.
John-Michael Liles: Young, small offensive defenseman for Colorado who doesn't shy away from the rough stuff. Only limited by his size, and his speed isn't top-notch either. Basically Jason Woolley Part II.
Kip Miller Hobey Baker winner now in AHL. Solid game, hard-worker, but played much smaller than his frame.
Ryan Miller Unflappable goalie and rising star for Buffalo. Dominates some games. Great work ethic.
Rem Murray Big (for his time) forward who was a checking liner pulled into scoring line duties on bad teams because he was more defensively responsible.
Jim Slater Young gunner who plays with a lot of grit. Average size but plays bigger (sometimes out of control). Could bloom late, and speed makes him viable on a scoring line.
Bryan Smolinkski Great faceoff guy, was at one point a big playmaker. Versatile but goes on long droughts and never made good use of his size.
Mike Weaver Physical defenseman, mostly a backup because he isn't very positionally sound.
Peter White Just remember he got in a fight with teammates. Don't know where he is now. Another big guy, though not really tall, who didn't use his size (sensing a trend here).
Jason Woolley Good sized generally offensive defenseman who at his best was Buffalo's powerplay quarterback. Had good speed and size when he was younger, but played a finesse, passing game.
Mike York Superfast small playmaker who plays bigger than he is, good two-way player, but gets worn down and goes on long scoring droughts at the end of seasons.
What did I see?
1. How many ways can hockey scouts call guys soft? This is by no means true for all of them, but it seems the MSU guys in the NHL are a Who's Who of relatively big guys with a strong work ethic who are afraid to use their bodies. The typical State forward is Adam Hall, a high-drafted power forward who falls short of his expectations, but works his ass off in the weight room and has great natural ability. This seems to be the opposite of the players from Red Berenson's squads who are now lighting up the NHL: relatively small, mediocre speed guys who can pass the puck like nobody's business.
2. MSU hasn't produced an NHL enforcer since Mike Cummins (and he was never a top goon). This doesn't say State isn't about enforcers; their goons just didn't go to the NHL. However, I think it does show that State's program looks for size and speed first. Now, if you're going to pick a style of play for those bodies, you wouldn't be the Red Wings. You'd want to be the late-'90s Flyers. They, too, got a rep for being bruisers. But if we're going to make that comparison, I think both teams are more "bangers," i.e. they play a game that emphasizes crashing the boards and crashing the net -- a power forward's game. This is a totally legitimate hockey strategy that has been tried and true in North America since the first "Oh, shit, this stuff's slippery, eh?" I would posit that these two classless turds represent an anomaly.
Perhaps (thankfully Kampfer is okay so we can joke about this) it was nothing more than Little Brother rage. I mean, it must totally suck to get beaten again and again by the guy for whom your entire sense of self-worth is tied to beating.
What it wasn't, at least in my opinion, was a program-wide commitment to goonism a la Bad Boys on Ice.
Here's the story from the Detroit News:
Edit: Good riddance. But it shouldn't have been left up to them whether to return or not.
I have to say the freep coverage of this incident has been top notch. The Krista Jahnke article (http://www.freep.com/article/20090126/SPORTS18/90126034/1054/SPORTS06/MS...) was good, and what made it even better is it turns out she is a sparty. Funny I always thought "Sparty" and "sane" were mutually exclusive. I stand corrected.
I have to say most sparties have been surprisingly good about this, but it's a little funny to hear them over at RCMB:
"Oh my God, her degree is hereby revoked. "
Having watched some recent MSU hockey, most notably the Championship game at the GLI and the most recent debacles, I thought it worthy to break down MSU's penalties this year to illustrate (THROUGH EXCEL!!!1!) how their penalties have gone through the year.
Bench penalties (too many players) & flops not included in penalties, clipping considered "tripping," unsportsmanlike and game misconducts, as well as grasping facemask and kneeing, considered roughing, game DQs ignored
7 boarding penalties. 5 in the past 3 games (wtf!?) and 6 in the past 6 games. 3 in one game against Miami? Come on dude.
Conboy has committed 29 penalties in 21 games. He had multiple games of 2+ (woot!) and one of those wonderful boarding penalties. Schepke, fwiw, just can't help himself (2) from doing that ("Sorry coach, they just keep falling down!)
What does this show? MSU might not be committing too many more penalties than their opponents (though you may argue they drag their opponent into scrums - see: Miami, UM). However, when 34 of your penalties are stupid scrums after the whistle (17%) and 29 (15%) are from roughing... you have a lack of self-control in your players. But when you had 2 boarding penalties all season and double that in a week? The coach has zero control.