so much for that
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Hokepoints: Would Bill Walsh Draft These LBs
Sinestral: Ross, Ryan and Clark|Bryan Fuller, MGoBlog. Dextral: Bill Walsh
First, a Chag Sameach to my fellow tribesmen and a Happy Turtleversary to the wingnuts.
We now continue with the Bill Walshian rundown of the 2013 roster. Since Michigan's offense and defense schemes are kindred spirits of the great 49er teams of the '80s, I've found it somewhat useful to re-scout Michigan's players on the same factors that the legendary coach used to evaluate his draft picks. How do we know what Walsh drafted on? Well wouldn'tchya know it, he provided it in a 1997 article for Pro Sports Exchange that Chris Brown (Smart Football) discovered.
Part the first was the entire offense. Part the second was the interior D-Line. Now we're on to the linebackers, among whom I include the WDEs.
Weakside End
Bruce Smith/ James Hall / Frank Clark by Upchurch
Walsh Says: 6'5/270 or 6'3/245 depending on type. It's complicated so I'm going to spend some extra time here. His DE descriptions bounced between what you want from 3-4 DEs, which is the 3- and 5-tech in Michigan's defense, and pure pass rushers. Ultimately Michigan's WDE is closer to the pass-rush-specialist-who-stops-runs-too job description of a Walshian 3-4 weakside linebacker than a blocker-sucking interior DL, so they go here with the LBs. Speed and quickness are now very much in play:
Must have explosive movement and the ability to cover ground quickly in three to five yards of space. The ability to get your shoulder past the shoulder of the tackle. This makes for a pass rusher. With that there is quickness because it sets up a lot of other things.
From the outside linebackers description we get this:
These pass rushing outside linebackers must have natural gifts, or instincts for dealing with offensive tackles who are up to 100 pounds heavier. Quickness is only part of it. They must know how to use leverage, how to get underneath the larger man's pads and work back toward the quarterback. And he must be strong enough to bounce off blocks and still make the play.
The rush DE needs to have some finesse. This site never misses an opportunity to knock on Will Gholston so I'll do that: Gholston has more than enough explosion and strength, and is an excellent tackler but the big hole in his game is he doesn't get leverage or bounce off blocks. This is why State deployed him mostly SDE this year while Marcus Rush was the premier pass rusher. Walsh says it's all the same if you can push a tackle as go around him, but being an okay jack of all trades here isn't as valuable as being super disruptive at one or the other.
Overall strength is important. You don't have to be a Mike Martin beastmonster in the weight room but a WDE has to be strong enough to not get turned by the tackle. This is also a technique issue though it's not a skill that needs years to develop—a big sophomore year leap is expected at this position as the kid gains weight, strength, and the footwork and balance to be able to keep his shoulders pointed toward the football.
As echoed in Mattison's statements in 2011 regarding WDEs, Walsh calls his rush DEs "the substance off the defensive team" since their ability to put pressure on the quarterback can make or break a defense. This is why great DEs are at such a premium in today's NFL.
The last piece is willpower, which in scouting parlance becomes "high motor." WDEs typically get rotated a lot because they burn a gazillion calories on each play. Because this spot is supposed to win 1-on-1 battles and kill plays himself, success on the second and third moves can make a huge difference.
Walsh's Favorite Wolverine: If James Hall and Larry Stevens had a baby, and that baby came out 6'5/260 and immediately ate the doctor. Michigan just hasn't had the freaks here unless you count Woodley and I'm saving him. Stevens didn't have the sacks but generated hurries. And Hall: because he's 6'2 every scout from the early recruiting years to modern NFL trade talkers underrates him, despite consistent production at every level. Hall is second (to Graham) in career sacks and 6th in TFLs among Wolverines and was the 1997 team's secret weapon. Both guys were often extolled for their virtues under the hood.
What to look for in a Scouting Report: EXPLOSIONS! I know I said this for SDE but even more so. You know these guys on sight because the innate quickness and strength makes them terrors against high schoolers. Skipping over the blue chips (or like Ra'Shede Hageman who would have been a blue chip if he accepted Florida's offer to play DE rather than Minnesota's offer of tight end) 3-stars who shine seem to have athletic tickmarks or the proverbial motor. I noticed some of the big performers from high school All-American games (Ray Drew, Alex Okafor, a million dudes who went to Florida) tend to fare well—about the worst among Army game standouts of yore was Victor Abiamiri, who was still pretty good. The pushers had ridiculous squats (Simon's was 700!)
What you can learn on film: How fast he gets into the backfield, adjusted for competition. You're looking for that quick burst. The great ones just look completely unblockable—like the guy blocking him doesn't seem to have any leverage.
What could signal bust potential: Size. Rivals tends to put its favorite DEs at "SDE" for this reason. If you browse through the five-stars you generally find two categories: high-effort guys who were early contributors and are or are on track to be NFL draft picks at defensive end, and Pierre Woods/Shawn Crable-like linebackers whose recruiting profiles said they would grow into Jevon Kearse. There's a reason they called Kearse "the freak."
How our guys compare: Frank Clark and Brennan Beyer are the two sides of the WDE coin. This refrain from MGoBlog is becoming tiresome but Beyer seems the stronger and more responsible one and Clark is the greater X-factor. We overplay this; both would still fall more into the finesse side than, say, John Simon, and both seem to top out as useful but not stars.
Ojemudia is kind of a James Hall but more akin to Shantee Orr. Where James Hall was small but had the size to stand up to a good shove when needed, here you have a dude with explosiveness and great hands for pass rushing but is going to be dead meat if doubled and run at, and is therefore best deployed as a 3rd down or [blank]-and-long specialist.
Early enrollee Vidauntae "Taco" Charlton, who's already 6'6/265 on Michigan's spring roster, is the closest thing to Walshian dreams. On film though a lot of times you just see him blowing something up because they didn't block him, and though this probably had a lot to do with being way bigger than high school tackles in Central Ohio he didn't play with much leverage after the snap. The reason for all the Tacoptimism is he blew up the camp circuit. He probably still needs a year to work on technique since he spent most of high school in a 2-point stance. Warning: he doesn't check the motor box.
[Linebackers, after a leap.]
Bowl Practice Presser 12-14-12: Brady Hoke
Bullets:
- Jerald Robinson has left the team.
- Craig Roh had a bit of a "sore shoulder." Me too, although mine is from pipetting too much. Probably the same thing.
- Royce Jenkins-Stone is playing middle linebacker, not SAM.
- Dennis Norfleet is playing corner, not safety.
- None of the redshirting freshmen OL have practiced at center. Right now the heir apparent to Elliott Mealer is Jack Miller, followed by Graham Glasgow.
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Opening remarks:
“Before I get started talking about what we’re doing and everything, I think our thoughts and prayers go out to those in Connecticut, with that tragedy that happened. It’s unfortunate, and we just want to have them in our prayers, those families that were affected, and the senselessness of what happened.
“With that being said, we got back after today, we had a good practice. This time of year it gets a little dicey because you’re juggling some finals. There’s some guys who had finals but not very many of them that couldn’t be there, so you go through all those kinds of things, and find the times that we can. We’ll go tomorrow morning, and then we’ll go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I like how they’ve come out. I know they’ve had good weeks with lifting and running and technique work and those things, so it’s all be real positive.”
Mailbag: Redshirts, Bad Burned Ones, QB Oh Noes, Packaged Plays
Redshirts.
Hey Brian,
The media has made a big deal about the 12 freshmen that have already played this season, mainly viewing it as a sign that the team is in bad shape. I think it's mainly because the 2012 recruiting class was so good, not because the returning players are performing poorly.
Guys like Funchess, Norfleet and James Ross would find some playing time on most teams. I don't see many Ray Vinopals out there - players only burning a redshirt because the depth chart at the position is a tire fire. Yet another interpretation is that it is a reflection of Brady Hoke's philosophy which differs from past coaches. I recall that you didn't expect so many to play. How did you interpret the situation?
Best,
Mike Forster
Class of 2005
The twelve who have seen the field grouped into categories:
JUST THAT GOOD: Norfleet (at least in the context of KR), Funchess.
STANDARD-ISSUE GROOMING: Darboh, Wilson, Pipkins
GROOMING TOO BUT PROMINENCE IS WORRYING: Bolden, Ross
BAD SIGNS: Williams, Ojemudia, Richardson.
WTF: Jenkins-Stone, Houma.
Ideally you wouldn't have Demens's job under threat in his third year as a starter, wouldn't be playing a true freshman blocking TE who was a tackle last year, and would tell Ojemudia and Richardson to eat a bunch of lard and talk to me when you've put on 30 pounds. Everyone else is about what you'd expect.
I'm not surprised most of these guys are all seeing time. I thought Ojemudia would be forced onto the field because of Clark's issues; those turned out to be less severe than they might have been but Beyer's injury still forced M's hand there. After I predicted a redshirt in Richardson's recruiting profile, Michigan saw two corners leave the team and a third go down for the year, plus Avery has/had back issues. They need to have him out there. With four corners in the next recruiting class they don't absolutely need to have him get that fifth year.
The two real surprises are RJS and Houma, but while they're irritatingly burning redshirts so they can watch Matt Wile pound kickoffs into the endzone their presence on special teams doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
[after the jump: more redshirts! sexy packaged plays! A dinosaur!]
Fall Roster Overanalysis 2012
An annual tradition. Remember: all weight changes are positive events.
This is slightly incomplete as the info sheet handed out at media day is either incomplete or the assembled numbers are—Heiko and Ace didn't get in on that sweet xerox action before they ran out. So a few players are stuck with question marks after their names for current weights. I've bolded changes or additions I find interesting.
| QUARTERBACK | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Denard Robinson | 185 | 193 | 195 | 196 | 8 | 2 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Devin Gardner | -- | 210 | 205 | 206 | -- | -5 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Russell Bellomy | -- | -- | 189 | 201 | -- | -- | 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| RUNNING BACK | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Fitzgerald Toussaint | 185 | 200 | 195 | 203 | 15 | -5 | 8 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Vincent Smith | 168 | 180 | 172 | 175 | 12 | -8 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Stephen Hopkins | -- | 230 | 228 | 235 | -- | -2 | 7 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Thomas Rawls | -- | -- | 219 | 217 | -- | -- | -2 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Justice Hayes | -- | -- | 176 | 183 | -- | -- | 7 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Dennis Norfleet | -- | -- | -- | 170 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Drake Johnson | -- | -- | -- | 203 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Sione Houma | -- | -- | -- | 221 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| WIDE RECEIVER | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ricardo Miller | -- | 217 | 234 | ? | -- | 17 | ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jeremy Gallon | 165 | 180 | 185 | 186 | 15 | 5 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Roy Roundtree | 170 | 176 | 177 | 180 | 6 | 1 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jerald Robinson | -- | 199 | 206 | ? | -- | 7 | ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Drew Dileo | -- | 172 | 172 | 180 | -- | 0 | 8 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Amarah Darboh | -- | -- | -- | 218 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jehu Chesson | -- | -- | -- | 183 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| TIGHT END | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Brandon Moore | 243 | 250 | 255 | 261 | 7 | 5 | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jordan Paskortz | -- | -- | 246 | ? | -- | -- | ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| AJ Williams | -- | -- | -- | 282 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Devin Funchess | -- | -- | -- | 225 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| OFFENSIVE LINE | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Michael Schofield | 268 | 293 | 299 | 302 | 25 | 6 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ricky Barnum | 275 | 286 | 292 | 301 | 11 | 6 | 9 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Taylor Lewan | 268 | 294 | 302 | 308 | 26 | 8 | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Elliott Mealer | 299 | 313 | 310 | 309 | 14 | -3 | -1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Patrick Omameh | 276 | 299 | 299 | 306 | 23 | 0 | 7 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Chris Bryant | -- | -- | 341 | 320 | -- | -- | -21 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jack Miller | -- | -- | 263 | 287 | -- | -- | 24 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blake Bars | -- | -- | -- | 282 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ben Braden | -- | -- | -- | 299 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Kyle Kalis | -- | -- | -- | 292 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Erik Magnuson | -- | -- | -- | 290 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| DEFENSIVE LINE | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Quinton Washington | 325 | 315 | 302 | 299 | -10 | -13 | -3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| William Campbell | 318 | 333 | 322 | 308 | 15 | -11 | -14 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Kenny Wilkins | -- | 270 | 280 | 290 | N/A | 10 | 10 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Craig Roh | 238 | 251 | 269 | 278 | 13 | 18 | 9 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jibreel Black | -- | 265 | 260 | 276 | N/A | -5 | 16 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Richard Ash | -- | 320 | 301 | 301 | N/A | -19 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Frank Clark | -- | -- | 228 | 260 | -- | -- | 32 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Keith Heitzman | -- | -- | 251 | ? | -- | -- | ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Brennen Beyer | -- | -- | 225 | 252 | -- | -- | 27 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Nate Brink | -- | -- | 263 | 272 | -- | -- | 9 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Matt Godin | -- | -- | -- | 270 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Willie Henry | -- | -- | -- | 302 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ondre Pipkins | -- | -- | -- | 337 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Tom Strobel | -- | -- | -- | 250 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Chris Wormley | -- | -- | -- | 268 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Mario Ojemudia | -- | -- | -- | 223 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| LINEBACKER | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Kenny Demens | 236 | 250 | 248 | 242 | 14 | -2 | -6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cameron Gordon | 208 | 207 | 222 | 235 | -1 | 15 | 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Mike Jones | 203 | 208 | 224 | ? | 5 | 16 | ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jake Ryan | -- | 225 | 230 | 242 | N/A | 5 | 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Brandin Hawthorne | 198 | 203 | 214 | 220 | 5 | 11 | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Antonio Poole | -- | -- | 212 | ? | -- | -- | ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Desmond Morgan | -- | -- | 220 | 230 | -- | -- | 10 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Royce Jenkins-Stone | -- | -- | -- | 206 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| James Ross | -- | -- | -- | 225 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Kaleb Ringer | -- | -- | -- | 225 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Joe Bolden | -- | -- | -- | 230 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| CORNERBACK | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| J.T. Floyd | 183 | 183 | 185 | 184 | 0 | 2 | -1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Courtney Avery | -- | 174 | 173 | 173 | -- | -1 | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Raymon Taylor | -- | -- | 169 | 183 | -- | -- | 14 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Delonte Hollowell | -- | -- | 164 | 177 | -- | -- | 13 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Blake Countess | -- | -- | 176 | 182 | -- | -- | 6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Terry Richardson | -- | -- | -- | 154 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| SAFETY | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Player | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 09 to 10 | 10 to 11 | 11 to 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jordan Kovacs | 194 | 195 | 197 | 202 | 1 | 2 | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Josh Furman | -- | 208 | 208 | 204 | -- | 0 | -4 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Marvin Robinson | -- | 203 | 200 | 201 | -- | -3 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Thomas Gordon | 205 | 205 | 208 | 209 | 0 | 3 | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Tamani Carter | -- | -- | 175 | 185 | -- | -- | 10 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jarrod Wilson | -- | -- | -- | 190 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Jeremy Clark | -- | -- | -- | 191 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Allen Gant | -- | -- | -- | 196 | -- | -- | -- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
NOTES!
Amarah Darboh is large. Jerald Robinson probably put on a few pounds but Darboh comes in as Michigan's heaviest wide receiver not converted from tight end by a good ten pounds. Hopefully he can step right into the lineup. Also, Jehu Chesson's coming in at a potentially college-ready weight.
Terry Richardson is small. A redshirt or broken tackles beckon.
WDE BEEEEFCAKE. Not a huge surprise since both entered as linebacker-sized dudes and are now being asked to take on tight ends and whatnot, but Beyer and Clark have added 59 pounds between them.
INTERIOR DL VEGANCAKE. Michigan's starting five-tech and three-tech are 278 and 276 pounds, respectively. That seems like it bodes poorly. Mattison is going to have to get very aggressive slanting those guys, because there's no way either holds up to double teams. Nate Brink is also struggling to crack 280, though he's got his injury as an excuse.
In better vegancake news, Will Campbell's halfshirt humiliation diet has him down to an extremely reasonable 308. Please be good.
Wasn't RJS supposed to be big? You could have gotten big odds that RJS would not have been the lightest incoming linebacker by 20 pounds. He's still listed at 6'2" and therefore seems like the guy best suited to be a SAM linebacker long-term (other than Bolden, but Bolden seems busy)… but it'll take a while to get there. Either I'm overestimating how big these SAMs have to be or we should be worried about the depth post Cam Gordon. Since both SAMs put on around 12 pounds to near 240, I'm choosing the latter until the 2013 edition of this post shows RJS +32 pounds or whatever.
Bryant and Miller will meet in the middle. Both head towards 300 in 20-pound increments. When they meet next year they'll hopefully be field-ready.
Willie Henry is a… at 6'2", 302 he's probably a nose tackle. No one else in the class on the DL is under 6'4" or over 270 save Pipkins, who is obviously also a nose tackle.
Chris Wormley's height. Okay, so he's listed at 6'4". Strobel is listed at 6'6". That picture I've posted a couple times does make that seem accurate. With the Godin height/weight (basically identical to Wormley) and the above bullet on Henry, we can confirm the proposed incoming DL spectrum from the Wormley recruiting post. From most NT to least NT:
- Pipkins (NT only)
- Henry (NT/3tech)
- Godin (3tech)
- Wormley (SDE/3tech)
- Strobel (SDE)
- Ojemudia (WDE)
Second-year corners. Are a lot less tiny.
Michigan Museday If the Dudes Get Dinged: Linebackerites

Upchurch|MGoBlog
Previously: Offense, Defensive Line
This goes out to all those young linebackers out there who have given me your letters of intent:
♪ There was Bell, and a Hill, but I never saw them playing
No I never saw depth at all, 'till there was you.
There were safeties who gained weight, and a JUCO straight from Butler
But they were no Obianna Ezeh, 'till there was you.
Oh there were walk-ons, and converted fullbacks, they tell me,
And sweet freshman "Spinners," and Roh at "Quick"…
There was Ken-ny Demens, and a plush-toy Castor face-wash,
But no other linebackers at all, 'till there was you.
Till there was you! ♫
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Linebacker depth: EXTANT!
This is Part III of the thing where I go over the depth chart and predict what will happen if the starter at any given position is hurt for an extended period of time in 2012: Who goes in?, What's the dropoff?, How do things shuffle?
And this time, there's goods here. There's depth in the SAMs and the WILLs and the MIKEs and the macks and the rovers. Whatayatalk whatayatalk: Where'd-we-get-it? With a Greg who knows the territory! With the jacks from the buckeyes, and the bucks from the mitten, and ROLBs from the overlooked, redshirted, 3-star, buck- and spart-passed over huckleberry bin. Whatayatalk, whatayatalk. Ya can talk, ya can talk, ya can bicker ya can talk, ya can bicker, bicker, bicker, ya can talk all ya want, but it's different than it was!
Quickly again. Photos are all by Upchurch unless otherwise noted. Ratings are given in Saturn-punting Zoltans. Think of them like stars except more heavenly. Five is an all-conference-type player (Denard to Kovacs); four is a guy you'd call "solid" (RVB to Demens); three is an average B1G player (Morgan to Hawthorne); two is a guy with a big hole in his game (freshman Kovacs); one is trouble with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for Poole.
SAM (Strongside Linebacker):
Backups: Cameron Gordon ![]()
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, Royce Jenkins-Stone ???, various WDEs
In case of emergency: Jake was a revelation last year as a redshirt freshman who as the season progressed kept giving the coaches less and less excuse to yank him. The nature of his position, which rotates often, and the nature of his cavalier game make it hard to quantify the effective difference of an injury here. By design he's the most replaceable guy on the defense; by the magnitude of his effect when he's in the game, there are few, if any, guys on the team who you'd less like to lose. He was far from perfect—his problems holding the edge led to some ugly things in the Northwestern-Michigan State part of the year—however there were also those times when a "running" quarterback would see this crazy freshman coming inside the edge blocker and think to himself "oh I'm so going around that idiot," only to end up flat on his back 20 yards in the backfield. Nothing was more satisfying to a fan base recovering from Passive 3-3-5 syndrome than seeing this crazed high-necked Viking bellowing something unintelligible at fast-retreating Logan Thomas.
Heiko took this
Cam Gordon is the nominal backup, and since the freshman who played ahead of him last year (Beyer) has made the move to WDE, you would imagine the onetime receiver, onetime epitome of ethereal spring optimism at free safety, and onetime 3-3-5 spinner will have finally settled into a useful something. He spent most of last year with a back injury that gives us precious little information on what he might become. So is C.Gordon a junior stunted by position switches, bad fundamental coaching and injury who's now ready to erupt, or a guy with bad fundamentals doomed to be remembered for that one time he was badly cast in the hero role of a box office flop?
What you want are his credentials for a position that rotates like a train of traveling salesmen; what I've got for you is a barbershop quartet of coaches singing songs about him. One thing they don't say is "platoon." Despite his safety pedigree and safety frame versus Jake Ryan's oft hand-down deployment, the coaches haven't indicated Gordon is a situational backup. The SLB in this defense is supposed to be more like a WDE than the other two linebacker spots, and Cam is not that. On the other hand he seems tailor-made for the side-job of the SLB: covering the guy in the slot.
So I'm saying if Ryan goes down, Michigan probably goes with Gordon and eases off the gas a bit, leaning less on pressure and more on coverage from the position. The real drop-off won't be too severe, as there are other guys who can blitz if the SLB becomes more coverage-oriented, and there are rush options extant. The apparent drop-off will feel like when we lost Marcus Ray—the defense is still the defense but that sense that somebody's about to lose an important body organ will be appreciably depreciated. You'll see Gordon plenty either way.
In case of dire emergency: Well like I said this position rotates. Don't know what will happen with Clark, but if he's in at WDE that means Brennan Beyer can easily reprise his 2011 role over here. Mario Ojemudia could be pressed into service. And any of the freshmen linebackers could end up here. Of the four, I picked Royce Jenkins-Stone as the SAM since Bolden already seems to be the two-deep man at Mike, and Ringer was here for spring practice at Mike, and scouting reports say Ross is a coverage-y WLB-type, while RJS has been described as a raw, blitz-loving knife. That's an SLB. It'd be best if he redshirts to learn how to be the second-most aggressive guy on the defense (WDE is the first) while holding the edge.
MIKE (Middle Linebacker):
Backups: Joe Bolden ![]()
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, Who? Mike Jones ![]()
, Kaleb Ringer ![]()
, WLBs
In case of emergency: Responding to my size chart in last week's article, TSS started a thread about how Demens, who's listed at 248 on the spring roster (which is a copy of last fall's), has significantly
more beef than the rest of the linebacking crew. The image above seems to reject the notion that he's the Carl Diggs among the Brackinses; the variability charts for the 2012 linebackers say he's huge (right, via TSS). So I checked the average listed size for a Michigan contributing linebacker since 1993, and it says he made big:
| Season | Demens | M Avg |
|---|---|---|
| 1st (Freshman-true) | 224 | 225 |
| 2nd (Sophomore or RS Fr) | 236 | 228 |
| 3rd (Junior or RS Soph) | 246 | 232 |
| 4th (Senior or RS Junior) | 248 | 233 |
| 5th year Senior | 252 | 238 |
Most of our starters played over 240 in their 4th or 5th years. Over 230 is where it seems the contributors need to be. And when you look at the depth chart for 2012 there are exactly three dudes who seem likely to fit that description:
| MLBs | Wt | SLBs | Wt | WLBs | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kenny Demens | 248 | Jake Ryan | 230 | Desmond Morgan | 220 |
| Joe Bolden | 230 | Cam Gordon | 222 | Brandin Hawthorne | 214 |
| Mike Jones | 224 | Royce Jenkins-Stone | 215 | Antonio Poole | 212 |
| Kaleb Ringer | 219 | James Ross | 209 |
Knock-knock … Orange … yada yada … you have Joe Bolden, the 2012 recruit I am most giggity about, and for good reason. He had the kind of performance as the starter (Demens was wearing that club you see above) in the spring game that makes even the cautious prognosticators say "I think we have something here." Then they pull out the David Harris comparisons.
There's nothing I can really add to the recruiting profile or the lofty expectations except to focus on what he brings to the table right now. That is a guy with freshman-grade Kovacsian play-diagnosis skills that must be tempered by "is a true freshman," plus a lot of range and athleticism that must be tempered by "is probably not strong enough yet to get off blocks." I don't think Demens should be worried about losing his job this year unless he's banged up, however in that eventuality Michigan has something between what Desmond Morgan was last year and a freshman Manti Te'o on hand, and should be just fine. Orange you glad!
In case of dire emergency: The phrase "Who? MIKE JONES!" had a very short meme life on the MGoBoards, and it is the considered hope of every Michigan fan that it should never become the headline of an MGoInjury Roundup or uttered without irony inside Michigan Stadium ever. Before the injury that ruined his 2009 coaches were suggesting he might displace Mouton; alas that seems to have been motivational spring hokum. More hype/hokum was Mattison saying he's an unstoppable speed rusher. We saw Jones a bit while Michigan was killing clock against Minnesota and he looked, um, safety-ish. There is a job for a safety-ish linebacker in this defense—the Will—but there are so many other slight LBs on this roster that tripping the 220-something wire puts you into the mix at middle. I would think before we see Jones start, Morgan would slide down to MLB and Hawthorne become the full-time WLB. While time is running out for Jones, he's not ignorable.
WILL (Weakside Linebacker):
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, James Ross ???, MLBs
In case of emergency: You can argue about the stars being low for a sophomore whom I already said was at 3 stars when starting as a true freshman—that was at the end of last year and I expect Des should still be improving exponentially as this season goes on. I also predict this year you'll start seeing more Jake Ryan in him, since everyone from recruiting analysts to coaches have raved about grittiness, something we haven't had the opportunity to see much of just yet. If our next Eckstein McGritsalot loses that opportunity, the safety net is the the safety-like Brandin Hawthorne.
If you have the opportunity to give the coaches one suggestion for 2012, please join the MGoCrusade to have Hawthorne deployed as the WLB when Michigan goes to nickel. Until Morgan emerged in the second half of last year, Hawthorne had lain tenuous claim to defense's most open position. Brandon Herron, the beefy Yang to Brandin's Yin, dropped out of the race after the double-fumble touchdown rally and has graduated. Hawthorne was excellent in coverage, knifed into the backfield for a key stop against Notre Dame, and displayed Pahokeeian speed to all parts of the field … except when a blocker came near.
For you Tiger fans, Hawthorne is the Ramon Santiago of this defense. He is great at what he does, but playing him every down is going to expose his weakness against the run. So what does happen if Des goes down? It's probably Joe Bolden, but with more Hawthorne appearances.
In case of dire emergency: Trouble with capital T, rhymes with P, stands for…oh actually we don't know what we have in Antonio Poole except his name lends itself well to the Music Man theme. Really he's a redshirt freshman who was ignored by Rodriguez but picked up quickly by Hoke. His recruiting profile lists abilities of play diagnosis, tackling, and translating of the Facebook pages of CRex's in-laws. Third on the depth chart is where you'd want a redshirt freshman to be. Anyway if you see Poole that means he's better than expected, or that "dire emergency" includes the MLB depth chart too. Same goes for James Ross, who was at one point the highest rated linebacker of the 2012 uber-haul, and may yet have a long career beside Bolden (Orange!), however he's listed in the vicinity of 200 lbs. and would probably benefit from a redshirt more than Ringer, who was here for Spring ball. Since redshirting a consensus high 4-star is a luxury we haven't had around the linebacking parts in some time, I suggest we take advantage of it.
2012 Recruiting: Royce Jenkins-Stone
Previously: S Jeremy Clark, S Allen Gant, S Jarrod Wilson, CB Terry Richardson, and LB James Ross.
| Detroit, MI – 6'2", 215 | |||
| Scout | 4*, #2 MLB, #111 overall | ||
| Rivals | 4*, #9 ILB, #4 MI, #184 overall | ||
| ESPN | 4*, 80, #9 ILB, #2 MI, #113 overall | ||
| 24/7 | 4*, #25 OLB, #209 overall, #5 MI | ||
| Other Suitors | Alabama, Florida, Miami(that Miami), Oklahoma, MSU | ||
| YMRMFSPA | Jake Ryan | ||
| Previously On MGoBlog | Hello post from Tim. Ace scouts Cass games versus De La Salle, Cody, and Harrison. Ace interviews him. | ||
| Notes | Cass Tech (everyone). Army All-American. | ||
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Michigan's third Westside Cub in the 2012 class, Royce Jenkins-Stone is also the second consensus four-star linebacker and second Cass Tech kid covered in this series. As a recruit he's a lot different than his Police Athletic League compatriots, though: where both James Ross and Terry Richardson are praised for advanced skillsets and knocked for their size, Jenkins-Stone is an A-level athlete who needs some molding.
Jenkins-Stone's name first started popping up when he was a rising junior hitting the camp circuit all Cass Tech kids hit hard. Barry Every came back with this evaluation($) from the 2010 Columbus NTFC:
Royce Jenkins-Stone, 6-2/216, OLB, Detroit Cass Tech (2012 class)
Has quick feet, long arms and a great frame for adding more muscle mass. … Displayed tremendous lateral movement during the 10-yard boundary drill, basically taking away any chance of a running back just trying to hit the sideline.
CONCLUSION: Detroit Cass Tech has another future star in the making. He has the size and speed to become not only one of the top prospects in Michigan next year, but a national recruit.
That was borne out as Jenkins-Stone went on to a productive, aggressive junior year. He racked up 90 tackles and a handful of sacks as he spearheaded the Technicians' defense. When the recruiting sites started releasing rankings, he was first or second in the state; Rivals had him the only Michigan kid in their top 100. ESPN's evaluation($) was last updated in June of 2011 and serves as a snapshot of where his star was before his senior year:
Has the size and athleticism for the outside linebacker position at the major level of competition. This guy is a strong knock'em back tackler who will punish ball carriers when the opportunity presents itself; should be very productive early as a special teams player. … Although we detect some hip tightness we see the flexibility, balance and agility necessary to play in space; does a very good job getting a jump on the ball; is quick to key and read, displaying a tough downhill attacking style vs. inside and edge running plays. Shows the playing strength necessary to shed blockers while moving through traffic; keeps leverage on the ball showing good change of direction skills. … Does a great job with run and pass blitz timing; has the explosive playing strength to beat blockers through gaps and put immediate pressure on the quarterback; is responsible for quite a few sacks and hurries. This guy has very good instincts; plays with the intensity and toughness necessary to create havoc anywhere on the field.
Allen Trieu's assessment is similar, listing aggressiveness, athleticism, and toughness as assets and discipline as a drawback:
Has solid size and good speed and athleticism. An aggressive player who is best when in attack mode and shooting gaps. Good ability in coverage, as he has good ball skills and length. Improved as a junior in reading plays, but can still have a tendency to over run some plays. Often times, he is beating blocks with speed and sheer aggressiveness, so he will have to learn to take on and shed blockers at the college level.
Unfortunately, since then his star has waned a bit. Cass got annihilated in their season opener against Harrison and Jenkins-Stone did not have an impact. Josh Helmholdt($) on that:
With a Rivals100 ranking, more was expected of Jenkins-Stone in his senior season opener, but the 6-2, 215-pound prospect did not disappear completely. He registered a couple tackles for loss and showed off great speed, but got bottled up too often and had trouble picking his way through traffic. Jenkins-Stone moves well in space and when he hits you, you're going down. He made a great play ripping the ball from a Harrison back to force a fumble in the second quarter. The awesome physical tools were still recognizable, but this was certainly not Jenkins-Stone's best performance.
Helmholdt followed that up with some commentary on why Jenkins-Stone dropped like a jenkins-stone in Rivals's postseason rankings revamp:
"As a junior, Jenkins-Stone played an aggressive, downhill style of football player and was all over the field. We saw him live in two and a half games as a senior, though, and he had lost that aggressive style and was playing back on his heels. Jenkins-Stone has also grown very little since we saw him the first time as a sophomore and that raises questions about his ability to add the necessary strength and bulk to play inside in college."
Ace had a more optimistic take about the Harrison game, saying that Harrison mostly ran away from him, but echoed a number of Helmholdt's concerns in a later viewing:
Much like the last time I saw him play, there was a concerted effort by his opponent to run away from him, but I must admit I was still disappointed by his performance overall. RJS has all the physical tools you'd like to see in a BCS-caliber linebacker, but it appeared either his effort or instincts were lacking at times (my, er, instinct is that the latter is more the issue, since RJS appears to be very into the game emotionally at all times)—this is no more apparent than in the third clip from the video, in which he bites hard on an end-around fake and leaves a huge gap for the quarterback to take off up the middle.
This is not to say that I don't think Jenkins-Stone is a good player—when he's aggressive, he does a good job of finding a way to the ball and either making a play or forcing the ballcarrier into the rest of the defense. I like the way he's able to shed blocks to get to where he wants to go, and his athleticism and size combine to be a huge asset, and if anything, he's just got to harness that athleticism and play more under-control.
A later game against De La Salle was better; Ace pointed out that RJS also got 22 carries as a meat-grinding tailback and that Cass Tech's reliance on him on both sides of the ball suggests his motor is excellent. Cass did claim a whopping 145 tackles for him as a senior. I'm a little skeptical of that since his numbers in the three games that were heavily scouted add up to maybe 15 tackles.
After his somewhat disappointing senior year, Jenkins-Stone fell out of top 100s everywhere but retained his guy-we-rank-and-give-four-stars status. ESPN and Scout continued to list him just outside of their top 100s, but ESPN still has a fire-and-forget tendency.
You may note the weird offer list, with huge national names but no Penn State, Notre Dame, or Ohio State. (MSU did offer, but they're going to offer any four-star prospect in the state every year.) That's probably the local powers wanting Cass kids to actually show up on campus before they seriously pursue yet another player headed to Michigan. The recruiting articles on Jenkins-Stone mention a planned Notre Dame trip, but are silent about the result of it—it probably never happened. The powers halfway across the country were tossing the offer out as a way to get interest.
The local heavies hesitancy was well-founded. RJS was the first Cub to commit, taking himself off the market in mid-April($) right after Kaleb Ringer. Like Richardson, he flirted with visits to some of the power offers he picked up but ended up backing off after getting a stern phone call about the consequences of doing so.
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At Michigan he'll start out as part of the MLB/WLB battle royale. However, the depth chart suggests someone is moving to the strongside. With Brennen Beyer and Frank Clark poised to duke it out at WDE, Jake Ryan's only backup is actually older than him. Michigan is going to have to slide someone down.
With Joe Bolden looking like the heir apparent at MLB and James Ross too small, the prime candidates are Jenkins-Stone and Ringer… except Ringer is listed at 6'0" most places and is not regarded as a vertical attacking threat in the same way RJS is. Michigan had already moved Beyer when Ringer showed for spring practice and he was still playing on the inside.
If Michigan wants to start grooming a Jake Ryan replacement this fall, RJS is the guy. While most of the sites list him as an inside linebacker, various analysts note the possibility he'll move outside. More Trieu:
He is truly has the physical presence to play inside, and the athleticism to move outside depending upon where Michigan needs him and has the potential to compete early. An aggressive player who is best when in attack mode and shooting gaps.
From both a roster standpoint and a player fit standpoint, that seems like the move. Most of the evaluations above hint that he's better as an athlete who can operate in space instead of a play-reading, traffic-evading inside linebacker. SLB is the land of insane athletes who can terrorize quarterbacks and take on tight ends without having to worry about guards or seam routes, and that sounds like Jenkins-Stone.
Etc.: Fluffy Scout interview. Army nomination article. State title recap. Wants to be a chef. Wilcher:
“They’re getting a kid that is athletic,” Wilcher said. “A kid that has great hands, catches the ball well. Good feet. Strong and has great speed for the linebacker position. One that can cover backs coming out of the backfield. Michigan runs the same style of defense we run, so I think hell fit right in. He’ll know all the calls and all the gaps, and I think he'll adjust quickly.”
An old old Webb News article.
Why Jake Ryan? Ryan is an often-irresponsible (but getting better) vertical attacker around 6'2" who has filled out into the 230-240 pound range and spent his high school career terrorizing backfields as a blitzer.
It's not a fantastic fit because the recruiting services missed on Ryan thanks to his late emergence and he played as an OLB in a 3-3-5; RJS was an inside linebacker in a 3-4. It's still pretty good. If you were going to list three assets and a drawback for Ryan you'd be hard-pressed to deviate from Trieu's formulation of RJS above: aggressive, athletic, tough… and a bit undisciplined.
Guru Reliability: Very high. Healthy, heavily scouted, same (or very similar) college position, and an All-Star appearance.
Variance: Moderate. Does need to put on some weight, may end up a bit of a tweener between the inside and outside, and has some boom/bust potential.
Ceiling: High. Seems a notch below the nutso athleticism that would get him a "very high" but easy to see him topping out at an all-conference level.
General Excitement Level: Moderate-plus. A little leery of the senior-year backslide a lot of responsibility on offense may have had something to do with that. Probably needs to make an adjustment to a position he hasn't played before. Doesn't seem as likely to hit his ceiling as Ross or Bolden, but still nice bullet to have in the chamber.
Projection: Jenkins-Stone is the most likely of the four incoming linebackers to redshirt. Bolden and Ringer came in for spring practice and Ross has a reputation as a guy who sees the game ahead of his years. Even if he makes the move to SLB Michigan has two solid options in front of him. Given the evaluations above, burning a redshirt for special teams activity seems highly inadvisable.
After a hypothetical redshirt year, RJS will find the linebacker depth chart largely in place. Only Kenny Demens departs after this year; with everyone else back it'll be tough to fight past Bolden, Morgan, Ryan, Gordon, et al, to find the field. He should get plenty of time on special teams and some garbage time drives. He'll probably find his way onto the two-deep as a redshirt sophomore and will be a prime candidate along with Mike McCray to replace Ryan in three years.
Yes. Michigan has a touted guy they shouldn't have to unearth until he's a redshirt junior. On defense and everything.



