i like 'em both
Slow Friday, so I thought I would throw out this topic for some general discussion / speculation:
Up until now, I think that many of us have assumed that DB would be fired at some point soon. Perhaps not this week, but certainly in time for the new AD to fire Hoke and bring in a new head coach. And it is still a possibility that DB will, in fact, be fired by President Schlissel. But, the MGoBlue.com press release about DB working closely with CSG to address issues and the announced cut in studen ticket prices call that assumption into question. If DB was going to be fired, it seems as if Schliss wouldn't allow him to take this public role. So, we need to consider that he may survive.
Which leads to my question. If DB manages not to get canned, how does that realistically impact whether Hoke is retained? Let's assume for the moment that we finish the season at 7-6 (we beat Indiana, Northwestern and Maryland, but lose to our rivals, make some crappy bowl and muddle to a win). What happens?
My personal view: If Hoke loses to both rivals, he is gone, even if DB is making the decision. The fanbase discontent would be insane. DB, himself at the center of some of that discontent, would do what just about any political person would do, and try to place the blame on someone else while at the same time painting himself as part of the solution by firing Hoke and bringing in a big name coach.
For DB, if he plays it right, this could actually save him. Sure, many current students and alum hate the guy. And while some have principled reasons for doing so (ticket prices, commercialization, etc.), if we are being honest, many want him gone because the football team sucks. If Brandon were to go out and somehow convince a Harbaugh / Miles level coach to come here (while cutting ticket prices and stopping some of the noodle, skywriting, special K stuff that has annoyed some of the fansbase), I am pretty sure the Fire DB chants would quickly end, or be reduced to a small minority of the fanbase. So, I guess my short answer is that unless he beats MSU and/or OSU, Hoke is gone.
What say you, MGoBloggers?
Since it's a bye week, I had some time to post a summary of Michigan's attempts to reel in defensive ends in the 2007 class. Michigan scored with Ryan Van Bergen, who turned into a pretty solid player. They missed out on some other high-quality players who ended up hurting us on the field a little bit. I see some people crediting Rich Rodriguez recruits for Brady Hoke's 11-2 season in 2011, but it's important to remember (in that argument) that guys like Van Bergen were Lloyd Carr recruits. This was Carr's last full class before the Carr/Rodriguez combination that signed in February 2008.
Feels like a feelingspost-filled weekend. My castmate and UM alum James Earl Jones said it well. John U. Bacon's statement that Dave Brandon sees Michigan football as a brand, when really it's a religion. Fans will pay to see good football in an environment they revere.
"People will come, Ray. They'll come to Ann Arbor for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up Main Street, not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at your gates as innocent as children, longing for the past. 'Of course, we won't mind if you have a look around,' you'll say. 'It's only 85 dollars for our valued guests, 20 if you're a student of this fine institution.' They'll pass over the money without even thinking about it; for it is money they have and peace they lack.
And they'll walk out to the bleachers, and sit in shirt-sleeves on a perfect Saturday afternoon. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the sidelines, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game, and it'll be as if they'd dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick, they'll have to brush them away from their faces.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been Michigan football. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But Michigan football has marked the time. This stadium, this game, is a part of our past, Ray. It reminds us of all that once was good, and it could be again. Oh, people will come, Ray. People will most definitely come."
John Niyo has a front page, above-the-fold ARTICLE on the Flint regents meeting and the general discontent with Brandon. It's a well-balanced piece, but with little that would constitute news to the board. That's not the point.
The point is that this remains an above-the-fold article on discontent with Brandon. This is how what is obvious (and old hat) to frequenters of MGoBlog becomes well-known in the mainstream. Including putting the issues in front of those who vote for regents, consequently increasing pressure on the regents to foment change and girding their loins (iccchhh) for a fight.
So thank you Detroit News and John Niyo. Keep spreading the word!
The U-M athletic department will announce the new student ticket prices next week.— Mark Snyder (@Mark__Snyder) October 17, 2014
Statement from U-M AD Dave Brandon pic.twitter.com/hl9zF4W2j1— Mark Snyder (@Mark__Snyder) October 17, 2014
UPDATE: As announced on MGoBlue:
CSG President Bobby Dishell made a presentation to the Regents regarding the findings from a CSG survey about the student experience at football games and the student body's relationship with the athletic department. He outlined the following agreements between Michigan Athletics and CSG that will take effect immediately:
- Athletics will work to design a new plan for next season that will include a significant price decrease for football student season tickets. Athletics will announce student season-ticket prices for the 2015 football season next week.
- Rental fees for athletic facilities will be eliminated for student groups with a charitable focus.
- The department has committed to work with the Big Ten to create a blackout weekend where Crisler Center will be available for MUSIC Matters in 2016.
- Monthly meetings with students will be held with Athletic Director Dave Brandon to address topics relating to all 31 teams and Michigan Athletics.
- Dishell and Brandon will have regular standing meetings.
- The athletic department will create a student advisory board comprised of student-athletes, non-athletes, season-ticket holders and non-ticket holders.