"What (Michigan coaches) told me is that they're focusing on point guards right now, but if anything opens up, they'll definitely come back on and recruit me as hard as they were," said Towns
Let us assume that we retain coach Rodriguez. Most of the fanbase assumes that Gerg won't be. At the very least there will likely be two or three defensive coaches let go.
Candidates for the defensive coordinator position might include:
Bruce Tall: I assume this is unlikely. The defense has been poor enough that it would be hard to justify elevatingthe best position coach on what seems to be a weak staff. On the other hand if rodriguez is going to want his dc to play a 335 regardless of experience with it, Tall is probably better suited to do that than gerg. It would be hard to be worse. Ultimately, I believe that Brandon will want someone with a proven record and more appealing to the masses. So should rodriguez--he may only have one more year to prove himself.
Chuck Heater: If he's available this would seem to be a good fit. Michigan ties. Florida plays a tough style of defense which we expect to play. The fans for mchigan would embrace him because he played here and has had good success in the ESS-EEE-SEE. The DC job for heater would be an upgrade for him and could be a stepping stone to a head coach consideration here or elsewhere depending on how thngs go.
Randy Shannon: Probably a pipe dream since he will likely have a shot at a head coach position for a lower level major cnference school like Minnesota, Mississippi State, Maryland. It's likely he would choose that option if available. He'd be a good fit though. We already focus heavily on recruiting Florida and his ties there would further that connection. He's also the type of coach who could be hired and paid well and allow Rodriguez to continue to be very hands off with the defense. From the little I have read, Shannon places significant effort on kids going to class and staying out of trouble and would be a good fit with Rodriguez from that perspective. With his defensive track record Brandon would approve and likely be willing to pay. He's recently mentioned that the coach here is gven a lot and a lot is expected. This would certainly fit hat description and potentially se up a solid defensive staff for a couple of years unless or until Shannon were offered a good head coachng position or Rodriguez let go. if we,re willing to pay LSU type assistant money there could be a chance toland him. Detractors would correctly say that he doesn't have Michigan or Big 10 experience, but his track record would appease most fans (at least for a year or two).
Jim Herman: doubtful. He'd be an improvement over what we have. He's familar with the program. That however may actually be a reason he wouldn't be cnsided. RR has spent a signifcant amount of effort and time changing the way thngs were done before him. RR would likely feel threatened by that move and it's probably an impossibility for that reason.
My choice would be Shannon. I doubt he'll be available. I'd take Heater. Either would appease the alums and donors for a year or two. By then well know if Rodriguez is the guy.
The Michigan coaches are making their rounds for in home visits for the next few weeks. They were out to see Anthony Zettel tonight, and were also out to see Georgia DB Avery Walls last night.
This is probably a bad idea right now the way people are divided and I'm not making this comparison with negative intentions (though for Rich Rodriguez supporters, just mentioning the name John L Smith is bad enough, the guy's reputation is radioactive). And just for full disclosure I'll say up front that I would be in favor of getting rid of Rich Rodriguez and replacing him with Harbaugh.
All that said, this probably won't go over well but all I'm really trying to put forth is the stats (and let people draw their own conclusions). Maybe this against my better judgement and I'm just asking for trouble/being overly provactive. All I can say is that I'm not intentionally starting to stir up trouble. Going to try and just present the data and let people draw their own conclusions. With that said, I think the year three comparison of the two coaches is troubling.
Went with this comparison for three reasons
1) John L Smith represents the worst case scenario. Those who want to get rid of Rich Rodriguez fear that we just have another version of John L Smith (whether this fear is justified or not). Someone who gets the job done on the offensive side of the ball, but who can't build a complete team. And to be clear, there's no definitive answer here.
2) Easy comparison because John L Smith is someone who most Michigan fans are pretty familiar with.
3)From what I remember (and my memory of the John L Smith years has faded a bit) there were similiar kinds of problems. Good offense, bad defense (especially secondary wise). Had the tendancy to start the season well, but fade once MSU hit the meat of their schedule.
Below are relevant stats that I've pulled
Record for three years before Rodriguez or John L Smith
|MSU||U of M|
Year One Comparison
|John L Smith||Rich Rodriguez|
|Record||8-5 (started 7-1)||3-9|
|Total Yards||367.38 yards per game (73rd)||290.75 yards per game (109th)|
|Passing Yards||270 yards per game (23rd)||143.17 yards per game (108th)|
|Rushing Yards||97.38 yards per game (111th)||147.58 yards per game (59th)|
|Points||27.92 points per game (49th)||20.25 points per game (101st)|
|Total Yards||379.92 yards per game(62nd)||366.92 yards per game (67th)|
|Passing Yards||255.15 yards per game(97th)||230 yards per game (87th)|
|Rushing Yards||124.8 yards per game(27th)||136.92 yards per game (50th)|
|Points||22.5 points per game (40th)||28.92 points per game (84th)|
Year Two Comparison
|John L Smith||Rich Rodriguez|
|Record||5-7||5-7 (started 4-0)|
|Total Yards||460 yards per game (10th)||384.50 yards per game (59th)|
|Passing Yards||221.50 yards per game (51st)||198.33 yards per game (81st)|
|Rushing Yards||238.50 yards per game (10th)||186.17 yards per game (25th)|
|Points||29.42 points per game (38th)||29.50 points per game (41st)|
|Total Yards||381.42 yards per game (42nd)||393.33 yards per game (82nd)|
|Passing Yards||209 yards per game (54th)||221.42 yards per game (67th)|
|Rushing Yards||172.42 yards per game (73rd)||171.92 yards per game (91st)|
|Points||27.17 points per game (72nd)||27.50 points per game (77th)|
Year Three Comparison
|John L Smith||Rich Rodriguez|
|Record||5-6(started 4-0)||7-5 (started 5-0)|
|Total Yards||497.27 yards per game (5th)||500.92 yards per game (6th)|
|Passing Yards||295.45 yards per game (11th)||249.83 yards per game (34th)|
|Rushing Yards||201.82 yards per game (20th)||251.08 yards per game (11th)|
|Points||33.82 points per game (18th)||34.33 points per game (23rd)|
|Total Yards||409.55 yards per game (87th)||447.92 yards per game (109th)|
|Passing Yards||244.91 yards per game (85th)||260.25 yards per game (110th)|
|Rushing Yards||164.64 yards per game(76th)||187.67 yards per game (94th)|
|Points||28.73 points per game (77th)||33.83 yards per game (102nd)|
John L Smith Year 4
|Record||4-8 (started season 3-0)|
|Total Yards||356.75 yards per game (48th)|
|Passing Yards||227.58 yards per game (35th)|
|Rushing Yards||129.17 yards per game (65th)|
|Points||25.17 points per game (52nd)|
|Total Yards||363.75 yards per game (88th)|
|Passing Yards||230.92 yards per game (97th)|
|Rushing Yards||132.83 yards per game (56th)|
|Points||28.73 points per game (77th)|
I was too lazy to do so, but another data point that's probably worth taking into account are the relevant offensive and defensive measures in the three years prior to RichRod and John L Smith. This also doesn't take into account attrition numbers that each coach had to deal with (well documentated in Rich Rodriguez's case, no idea when it comes to MSU).
Editing Notes: made some changes with stats so presentation is better plus fixed typo in title.
so the "RR must go" crowd has all the credibility of the Tea Party. tired, negative, the glass is always half empty.
it has gotten as bad as the halcyon days ot World Cup Soccer, when suddenly Albania vs Botwswana was front page news here.
This was put up less than hour ago
I hope he qualifies
As per Rivals. However, seems as if Penn State is leading for him. So much for snagging one of the Miami decommits post-Shannon.
"Penn State clearly team to beat for Louis-Jean now followed by BC. Dark horse? Oregon. Watch for the Ducks." -- Mike Farrell, Rivals