i like 'em both
After Stonum's return, check out our favorite Pumpkin Pie Haircuted front-row fan @ 2:04. Glad to see him rocking the #43 jersey from 2007 (Bryan Wright?).
Sorry for the lack of embedding, still trying to figure it out. My bad...
Last week (in UV?) Brian mentioned the fact that 40 years of continued beatdowns and general success is why there are so many Walmart Wolverines. Little Brother's fans are just jealous that people who attended neither school seem to be more willing to pick a much more successful program for their rooting interests.
So I thought I'd go further into the numbers. It's pretty staggering. Let's look at it in a thinly veiled hypothetical.
Suppose there are two schools, A and B.
A and B are both large, long established, public universities roughly 70 miles apart in the same state.
A and B have played each other in football 41 times since 1969. During that period:
- A has won 30 games in that series, B has won 11 games.
- A's winning percentage over B is .732.
- A has outscored B 1100-659. That's an average game of 29-16.
- A has shutout B five times, and has allowed only three points in two additional games.
- A has never failed to score at least a touchdown against B.
- A has won 1 national championship. B has won none.
- A has won 21 conference championships. B has won 3.
- A has appeared in 35 bowl games, including a streak of 33 straight, with 15 wins.
- B has appeared in 16 bowl games, with 5 wins.
- A has appeared in 16 Rose Bowls, 2 Orange Bowls, 1 Sugar Bowl, and 1 Fiesta Bowl.
- B has appeared in 1 Rose Bowl.
- A's players have won 2 Heisman trophies. B's have won none.
- A's winning percentage against all opponents is .756.
- B's winning percentage against all opponents is .509.
Since 1898, A and B have played each other in football 102 times.
- A has won 67 games in that series, B has won 30 games, with 5 ties.
- A's winning percentage over B is .681.
- The all-time series between the schools includes a score of 119-0 in favor of A.
- A is the NCAA FBS leader in all-time football wins with 881, 33 wins better than second place.
- B has 621 all-time wins, good for 32nd place among all FBS schools.
- A is the NCAA FBS leader in all-time football winning percentage at .737, .005 (roughly 3 whole games) better than second place.
- B's all-time winning percentage is .592, also good for 32nd place among all FBS schools.
- A has earned 11 consensus national championsips.
- A has been selected as national champions in 5 additional years by various recognized selectors on the idiot fringe of college football opinion.
- A claims only its 11 consensus national championships.
- B has earned 3 consensus national championships.
- B has been selected as national champions in 3 additional years by various recognized selectors on the idiot fringe of college football opinon.
- B still claims a total of 6 national championships.
- A has won 41 conference championships.
- B has won 6 conference championships.
Which team's football program would YOU root for?
A is the University of Michigan. B is Michigan State University.
Is it any wonder that there are so few Walmart Spartans? Little Brother indeed.
Okay, so there's also that basketball thing. A few years ago ESPN ranked the top all-time basketball programs. Michigan was ranked 13. Sparty was ranked 16. Yes, MSU fans: basketball actually existed as a sport separate from the exploits of Magic Johnson and Tom Izzo. U-M men's basketball actually owns a 91-74 record over MSU (84-71 adjusted for vacated games).
Hockey? Let's not even bother to share the stats. MSU has a good hockey program historically, but U-M is far and away the most celebrated hockey program in history, with its record 9 national championships and current record streak of 20 straight years in the NCAA tournament. There's acutally a guy in my hometown who claims that Sparty has won more championships and has had more tournament success than U-M. So okay, let's go to the stats anyways since thinking about that guy has pissed me off:
- National Championships: U-M 9, Sparty 3.
- NCAA Frozen Fours: U-M 23, Sparty 9.
- NCAA Tournaments: U-M 33, Sparty 23.
- CCHA Regular Season Championships: U-M 10, Sparty 7.
- CCHA Tournament Championships: U-M 9, Sparty 11. WOO-HOO! GO SPARTY!
I hate to do this, but need some local expertise from the MGoCommunity
My family will be travelling up to Michigan the weekend of the state game. We have a hotel for Friday night and plan to take my oldest kiddos around the campus and to their first Michigan game the next day. I’ve been looking online for tickets and 4 are generally running around $250-400 a-piece with some end zone seats going for $200. I’ve never had a problem finding tickets outside of the stadium before the game, but I certainly don’t want to run into a situation where we get there and can’t find anything. For the regular attenders, would you recommend waiting until game day to purchase tickets or in the wake of the success are the tickets that day in short supply? Is it any cheaper to wait?
Also, we traditionally parked by the radio broadcast booth next to Crisler Arena and with that space now closed for construction, would the next best place to go be the golf course or Pioneer High school?
Many thanks for the advice!!
So our previous plan for accomodations in Bloomington fell through, and looking online almost all hotel rooms in the area are booked. I was going out on a limb and wondering if anyone on the board knew of hotels that were still available and not ridiculously priced, or if anyone had a reservation and is looking to cancel that we could get transferred.
If you do have a reservation that you'd like to cancel, can you send me an email at liawd at umich dot edu.
Also, as a side note, anyone else planning on buying IU student tickets to go to the game? Only 5 bucks and any college id will get you in.
But Delany told the Chicago Tribune last week the challenge is financial. "I know our fans want to see more Big Ten games," Delany told the Tribune. "Our TV partners want to see more Big Ten games. But if we can't finance our programs, it's not going to happen." Programs like Michigan and Michigan State draw income by hosting games. If the Big Ten moves to a nine-game schedule, teams will play five road games every other year. That means scheduling only home nonconference games. Big Ten coaches weighed in on the issue during Tuesday's weekly conference call, and they would prefer an eight-game schedule. "I would say this if I were the one designing it and had all the votes, which I'm not designing it and I have none of the votes, I would probably stick with eight," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said. "I would probably go back to having (the regular season) end the Saturday before Thanksgiving. "I always thought one of the bonuses for Big Ten players and coaches and fans was they were able to enjoy a Thanksgiving weekend with their families and perhaps have the championship game two weeks later." What coaches like about an eight-game schedule is the balance it offers. "I think the trend to go toward nine has been out there a lot because of the difficulty of getting some nonconference games," Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez said. "I kind of like having eight conference games, having balance, four and four, home and on the road, and have the ability to schedule four nonconference teams throughout the country." Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio said playing eight Big Ten games is tough enough. "As you look at your football team, you want to grow your team," Dantonio said, adding he knows fans want to see Big Ten teams play a quality non-conference schedule.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100929/SPORTS0203/9290333/1133/sports/B...
He was quoted (Detroit News article) as crediting Michigan and Bo for his coaching success. Is this a harmless statement of fact, or is he making an overture that he would be eventually open to a Michigan offer?