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It seems like there is enough discussion going now that the combined thread will soon be unwieldly, so here were go:
Gator Bowl Open Thread
The 1st quarter just ended with a quick exchange of fumbles. 7-0 Florida.
So in addition to Arnett seeking a transfer and Dooley looking bad for the way he's handling it, now their DC and LB coach are leaving to join Sarkisians staff at Washington.
You've got to wonder how all this is adding up in Danny O'Brein's mind. I also wonder how long Dooley will be able to keep his job. He has a 4-12 conference record in 2 seasons. I imagine Tennessee has higher expectations than that. They should be challening Florida and Georgia for the SEC East every year, but Dooley is 0-4 against those two teams.
NOTE: Here's the plan for these three bowls because they all involve the B1G and they are all on at the same time.
To avoid clutter for the time being, I will create just the one thread for the following:
1 PM, ABC - Outback Bowl - Michigan State versus Georgia
1 PM, ESPN - Capital One Bowl - Nebraska versus South Carolina
1 PM, ESPN2 - Urban Meyer (Gator) Bowl - Ohio (yes, that one) versus Florida
However, if the thread quickly becomes unmanageable or hard to follow, then I will break it out and create threads for each game and this one can be repurosed to perhaps talk about the B1G performance to date - highlights, complaints, etc...does that sound fair to all?
Anyway, quickie summaries:
Outback Bowl - this is the consolation prize for flubbing your conference championship games. Michigan State (10-3) will be playing Georgia (10-3) in what I hope will be a rather competitive game. I went Michigan State here - I think they actually could pull this one out unless Aaron Murray starts throwing bullets which his receivers can catch. Oh, what could have been in the SEC championship game, right?
Capital One Bowl - I dare say the folks at Capital One were looking for variety with the B1G tie-in and went Nebraska (9-3), which travels well, as we saw in person, and will probably be a huge presence in Orlando. South Carolina (10-2) brings Steve Spurrier back to Florida - I think they still like this guy there. This one might be close, but I went South Carolina.
Urban Meyer (Gator) Bowl - the past and future of Urban Meyer will be on the field here in the battle of 2011 underperformers. Ohio (6-6) and Florida (6-6) will be there to play, I am sure, although I seem to remember Ohio not having much luck against Florida in a bowl not too long ago. These are different teams, of course, but I took Ohio by a slim margin. I think a middling Ohio team is just a little better than a middling Florida team.
So, there you are - if you see threads reproducing by fragmentation around 2 PM (or sooner), you'll know why.
I figure that since the Big 10 has four concurrent games this afternoon, as well as the Rose Bowl tonight, we could use a thread to reflect on the Big 10's bowl fortunes this year. In an anti-homer move, I have all the Big 10 teams losing today in my confidence pool. I have the B1G going 2-8 total, with Michigan and Purdue the only wins. Illinois already improved on that, but I wouldn't be surprised now to see anywhere from 3-7 to 5-5 for the Big 10 this season. Anything outside of that will be pretty shocking, I think.
I think our best shot for a win today is probably the Gator Bowl, as it appears that PSU has fallen apart since JoPa's firing. Does anyone know if McGloin will be able to play?
EDIT: We have a total of five games today, guess I lost track. It sucks that nearly half our conference bowl games are on at once...
It took me a little while yesterday to calm down, after the Lions loss. To be fair, I'm usually in a bad mood after a loss, but this one seemed to stay with me for a little while. Perhaps it was the result of the loss, which is a date next weekend with the Saints. Or perhaps it was the fact that we gave up 6TD's to a backup QB, making his 2nd career start. Those were all good reasons to be upset, but as much as I hate to admit it, because I hate blaming this aspect of the game, but I couldn't get over the way the game was officiated. One thought kept going through my mind; it's a rare game, when the NFL owes your team an apology for more than 1 call. In my mind, and I think in the minds of any fair minded football fan, there were three calls that were absolutely butchered. The Scheffler fumble (that granted, was overturned, but still cost us a valuable challenge), the Logan fumble, and the Titus Young Touchdown catch.
I understand that the Logan fumble was a judgement call, but how the ref made that judgement, is beyond me. I'm still waiting for the replay, that shows Logan fumbled that ball. Besides getting up, then proceeding to hand the ball to the ref, I'm not sure how much more down he could have been. The Titus Young call was probably the worst direct judgement call I've seen in foootball in a long time. The ref was in great position to make that call, and he missed the hell out of it.
I'm not here to defend the Lions defense, it was attrocious, so much so, I'm not sure how much better Aaron Rodgers would have played over Flynn. Had we made a couple stops here and there, the sting would've been lessened over these calls. But never in my life, have I seen three calls get so badly butchered against one team, in a single game. Like I said earlier, it's a rare game where the NFL owes your team an apology for more than one call in a game.