While we're speaking about dirty basketball programs... I thought of this article I read a few days ago. I didn't see it floated on MGoBlog yet and the claims are quite damning.
Makes me glad we're not dealing with this bs.
"I questioned my integrity, where my life was going, 'cause I was living a lie," Hmiel said. "I felt like I was a pimp or prostitute myself, selling myself for the University of Cincinnati to bring players in, and looking at moms and dads and flat-out lying. And lying to kids. And lying to their coaches, to their girlfriends or whoever was their key adviser, saying the right things that they wanted to hear.
"The truth sometimes hurts, so you didn't tell the truth as a recruiter. You lied. 'Trust me, I'm lying,' was almost my motto."
For most of his life, and in some cases for 40 years, Hmiel carried a guilty conscience and a stash of secrets arguably more damning than the infractions that earned Cincinnati a two-year NCAA probation in 1978. He admits to taking tests for prized players to keep them eligible, to steering players who were no longer wanted to hard classes in the hope they'd flunk out, to plying high school recruits with alcohol and cash, to faking Julius Erving's signature on recruiting correspondence, to placing late-night collect calls to recruits in the name of rival coaches, to behaving, by his own admission, like a "slimeball," a "low-life crumb," "a snake in the grass."
How low did he go? Once, while teaching a basketball class at Cincinnati, Hmiel says he assigned an athlete in another sport a D grade for B-quality work to accommodate a coach eager to free up a scholarship. Another time, as the basketball team's academic adviser, Hmiel deliberately overscheduled a player until he became academically ineligible and transferred.
So, I had the opportunity to speak with a Chicago HS basketball luminary in a casual situation earlier today. I won't drop his name at this point, but he coached some of Chicago's best talent over the past 30 years at a couple well known Chicago high schools. He apparently just retired this year. I asked some very pointed questions about basketball topics, specifically regarding college recruiting, and he (thankfully) did not hold back on giving me some very candid and real answers. Thought I would share with the board:
1. College bball recruiting is extremely dirty (duh!)
2. While he thinks the NCAA does their best to monitor this, he seems to believe that college coaches are much smarter and can "stay ahead" of the NCAA. He says there are very sophisticated ways to pay players and their families without suspicion.
3. Coach K - dirty as hell (I was kinda surprised by this)
4. Coach Cal - dirty as hell (duh!)
5. Coach Pitino - dirty as hell (duh!)
5. Izzo - sends his assitants to do his dirty work. He says he was offered money from Dwayne Stephens on several recent occasions for particular recruits (although I don't know if he actually accepted the money). He thinks that Izzo is not as bad as others though. Izzo has a lot of respect in Chicago and is not normally known for playing dirty. However, his people told him that Izzo's recent recruting success is no doubt from some "below the belt" tactics.
6. The Jabari Parker recruitment was surprising clean on a relative scale.
7. As for Michigan/JB - clean, very clean, but too clean. Most promimant Chicago HS coaches stay away from Michigan because Michigan won't be part of the "recruiting machine" in Chicago. They think JB is a good coach but teaches "white boy" basketball. He basically says Michigan/JB has no respect in Chicago anymore.
I mentioned I was a Michigan fan and talked some more about our program. He has tons of respect for us becasue he had lots of interaction with Michigan many years ago. Back in the 90s, Michigan was THE school for Chicago's best talent. He says we were not a clean program then, but he says that no one was and Michigan was no different than any other major program. He seems to think we have little to no chance with big time recruits in any major city without getting a little dirty.
He had some funny things to say about Amaker, but I'll save for later.
Anyway, thought I would share with the board. What are your thoughts? Would you be OK with getting a little dirty to get better recruits? Are you OK with being a super clean program now that can't consistent compete on the big stage?
Srry for being late but wih the holidays ive been little busy. Here is the full game for Bryant and inside michigan basketball episode 3. This should get you through the next few days before the trip to Illinois and the Citrus Bowl. Enjoy. GO BLUE!!
Oh and i will be uplaoding the illinois game and the PSU game(hopefully both wins) after january 3rd.
I think we all were a little worried early on with some truly dissapointing basketball. When you pair that with an abysmal last season and losing out on some big name recruits, it would be easy to express concern over the direction of the program.
But after the recent blowout wins (albeit against the most garbage of teams) and solid play overall from out most important contributers, I think we should start feeling good about this team. We may not be elite this season, but we are definitley a tournament team that has really turned things around in a short period of time as we assemble a solid resume.
- Texas (8-3 with notable victories over now #7 UNC, and @Stanford)
- @NCST (9-3 victory over potential #1 pick Ben Simmons and LSU)
- YSU 59 pt win
- UNCC 55 pt win
- DSU 47 pt win
- #6 Xavier (12-0)
- #18 SMU (11-0)
- UConn (Currently 8-3 with losses to 9-3 SYR, 10-3 Gonzaga, and #4 Maryland)
- Caris Levert 17.3 pt, 5.4 rb, 4.8 a, 1.2 st, FG% .503
- Duncan Robinson 12.5 pt, FG% .574, 3PT% .595
- Derrick Walton 10.4pt, 4.7rb, 4.3a, 1.8st, FG% .485, 3PT% .528
On Aug. 4, 2014, he sent Robinson a text, telling him he'd be calling in about 20 minutes. Robinson was home at the time, hanging out with a group of friends and family. They all gathered around in the background when Beilein called.
As Robinson remembers it, Beilein left him hanging for a little bit, telling him that he loved the way he played, that he would fit Michigan well and that the coach indeed was interested before adding the kicker: Beilein was offering a scholarship.
"When I hung up the phone and told everyone it was a scholarship, the room erupted," Robinson said.