there would have to be some to wash away
Beaver just got his first snap at QB on what seemed like a Feaginesque cameo in the offense. It was a handoff to the TB. Tulsa lost 4 yards on the play.
Of course the announcers made a mention of his decommit from Michigan, and how RichRod and the Tulsa coach are friends, and blah blah blah blah...
Check it out on ESPN.
After Shavodrick Beaver decommitted back on December 19, I posted this:
Several people began (or continued) to hate me, because I was suggesting that Shavodrick Beaver would have been our third string QB in 2009 and might not have seen significant playing time until 2013. Many angry things were said, even though my message was that we should stay calm and there was plenty of time to find another QB.
Now that Signing Day has come and gone and we have signed a second capable QB for 2009 (Denard Robinson), how does everyone feel about the differences between Beaver and Robinson?
Beaver was the #8 dual-threat QB and Robinson is the #12 athlete in the country, according to Rivals. I think Beaver was slightly more polished than Robinson, but Robinson has a chance to be an electrifying player at quarterback. Perhaps an even bigger plus for Robinson is that he has the ability to switch positions (to corner or receiver) if the quarterback thing doesn't work out. This makes Robinson an even more valuable pickup, in my opinion.
*Obviously just a guess.
(Not, not your personal beaver stories. Sicko.)
The wild news about the Beaver "decommit" (why do we call them commitments when they can be broken without penalty?) has sent the mgoblogosphere into wild consternation.
On a Stanford board today, a poster put up the following:
"The reason how and from the Notre Dame board is below:
"Beaver, the QB, said TU coach Todd Graham discussed the importance of growing as a person away from the football field, an emphasis that Michigan didn’t approach. It made a difference, the player said."
There is a slam if there ever was one."
Yes, that's him quoting from "the Notre Dame board," without a primary-source attribution. This to me screamed either "apocryphal internets thingy" or "crap fed to recruiting reporter like the bogus stories you give when you are breaking up with someone." If anything, it sounds like Graham and Malzahn told him he'd play in a cooler offense.
Also, browsing the MGoDiaries (sounds like an HBO series) there is a story popping up about Beaver's mom calling Rodriguez, or Rodriguez's mom calling Beaver's coach, or somesuch. Several posters felt this story had apocryphal written all over it, while at least one asserted it was true (without support).
Anybody who can comment on sources, reliability and smell-testing, please do so we can get these things straight. No need to be walking around dealing with bogus stories if we don't have to.
Maybe I'm not so crazy after all. A quote (and an article) from Josh Helmholdt in the Detroit Free Press.
"Because Forcier is further along in his development, than Beaver, he was the odds-on favorite between the two to make an impact at quarterback next fall for the Wolverines."
Full disclosure: I am a fan of Ohio State. I am emphatically not a fan of Michigan. I am not, however, here to be a douchebag - I'm here to tell you that I feel your pain (and, eventually, to tell you that you whistle past Beaver's de-commit at your peril).
I've been around long enough to have seen both Archie Griffin play in the (old) 'Shoe in person and my Buckeyes' loss to Air Force. And while I'm happy at the moment to be enjoying what the spin of the wheel has brought Ohio State recently, the searing memory of Cooper's 2-10-1 tenure is always with me. You won't find me here trolling about "LLLLLoyd". I actually really like that old coot, aside from the two-inches-from-the-official's-ear tantrums. And I don't believe for one second that we're just going to keep stomping you forever. Like I said, I've seen too many spins of the wheel to be that sanguine.
Anyway: This Beaver business is bad, bad news right now repeat right now, no matter how good or bad either Forcier or Beaver turn out to be. Nobody knows right now how good a college QB either of these two kids is going to be, as Brian said in the thread to another diary. One or the other, or both, might be terrible, merely competent, or outstanding. Odds are - per Brian's apparently well-supported theory on the predictive value of guru rankings - that, out of the pair, Michigan would get at least one very good QB, and perhaps two. But at the moment, the chances that Michigan will get a good QB out of the 2009 class have been halved to one - which, under the circumstances, is a whole lot less than two.
What if Forcier cannot beat out Threet - or, Jebus forbid, Sheridan - next fall? I've seen some commentary here that says: no matter, the universally guaranteed leap in QB competence between a player's first and second years will lead to a no-worries, put-it-in-the-bank 8-4 record that will make everything OK until we can land the next Pat White, or until Forcier turns into him or Shaun King.
Methinks that predictions of an 8-4 record, absent the emergence of a "good" rather than a "not DEATH" QB, assume facts not in evidence, especially during an offseason in which an entirely new defense (if you're going to play a 3-3-5, or even a 3-4-4, or whatever alignment you choose, isn't good safety play part of the deal?) is apparently going to be implemented. And me also thinks that nothing less than 7-5, which at this moment seems aspirational rather than assured, will be acceptable.
But all this is beside the point: Having both Forcier and Beaver in the fold meant that there were two highly-rated dual-threat QBs with a chance to rescue the Wolverines in the RichRod era. Now there is only one. Somebody in another thread brought up Ohio State's situation a few years ago with Troy Smith and Justin Zwick - but here's the rub: Troy Smith was recruited as an ATHLETE who had been given a chance to prove himself as a QB. Had Tressel been given a "Sophie's Choice" between one or the other as a QB recruit, then, based on rankings alone, he would have chosen Justin Zwick.
What has happened here is that Michigan has had one of those options taken away from them. That cannot, at all, be portrayed as not a big deal, other than with the future benefit of 20/20 hindsight. What is certain right now is that Beaver's de-committment really, really sucks for you.
I'm seeing a trend that I would like to have some feedback on...
The Tebow show didnt unveil any great running this year, I know, I know, Meyer didnt want to get him hurt and with seeing fewer and fewer spread quarterbacks putting up massive numbers on the ground, has RR seen the movement of his creation moving toward the above average mobile QB in the spread that is a much better passer than a runner, Pat White v. Sam Bradford. Could that have a lot to do with the trip to Oklahoma this off season? With the success that OU has had with Bradford, maybe RR sees Threet or Forcier being the next Bradford and Michigan being in the title game in a few years.