This is maaaaybe premature there, ESPN. Maryland #1 FWIW.
This is a story about the impressive and competitive depth of Michigan’s newest recruiting class, including position groups we won nationally, and how they stack up to an overall record of 12-3-2 for the recruiting year.
Every year there is a nationwide homage paid to the players who have fought hard to obtain 5-star status, as well as those who came close to making it to the top 0.01% but missed out on that final star and are left in the lowly top 0.05% of graduating high-school football players. I do not wish to denigrate their hard work, and extensive time spent travelling and taking on all comers. These dudes are beasts (5-stars, 4-stars, and 3-stars alike.)
An alternative view of recruiting success for a given team would be to analyze the zero-sum addition of players by position. Every position has its own top-24 or 48 or 96 – with the value of a top 96 WR being different than the value of a top 96 Kicker based upon the number of WRs and Ks being competed for on an annual basis by the top schools. With whom are we playing this zero-sum game? I would suggest that we are playing against the top 24 most-prestigious Universities in the football nation. (You may select your own top 24 teams by prestige – we’ll probably all wind up with similar lists.)
The next assumption is that each team is attempting to recruit a perfectly balanced class each year. Granted, this is an imperfect assumption – impacted heavily by injuries to position groups on each team, strength of position groups on each team, recruiting busts from prior classes, shifting strength of position groups coming out of high-school, coaching offense/defense strategies, etc. However, across the 24 highest-profile teams there should end up being some standardization to these granular imperfections on the curve. For each team seeking no TE, there is probably a team seeking four TE; for those teams seeking 6 WR, there is a balance of teams seeking 2WR.
I presume the perfect class, as averaged across the spectrum of the Top-24 teams, to include:
4WR, 2TE, 2OT, 2 OG, 0.75 C, 1 QB, 1.5 RB, 0.75FB, 0.5 APB
2 CB, 2 S, 2 ILB, 2OLB, 1 SDE, 2 DT, 1 WDE
0.5 K/P, Some number of LS
(Mix and match your own numbers at each position, multiply the total numbers by 4 to acquire the number of scholarships utilized on the complete team over 4 years)
Taking the above number of players at each position every year would yield a team of 108 scholarships over a 4-year period – far above the 85 allowed. It is impressive to consider the purposeful impact of coaching schemes on Offense/Defense, reaction to attrition vs strength of the position over time, and necessary impact of dual-threat players/flexible linemen on these numbers.
With 24 teams, seeking the above average number of players at each position, the zero-sum game becomes: 24 teams competing for the top 96 WR. 24 teams competing for the top 48 TE. 24 teams competing for the top 48 OT and 48 OG. 18 of the 24 teams competing for the top 18 centers. Repeat this down the line utilizing mathgebra.
What does this mean? Stars be damned, every prestigious team is competing for overlapping contingents of the top 96 WR. Getting a recruit from the top of each 24-person strata (i.e. #1 and #25 from a group of 48 being competed for) is a win over getting several recruits from a lower strata (i.e. #25 and #48.) Moreover, taking above your lot from any one position is limiting the lot available for another team from the Top-24 (let alone when a pesky non-power 5 team snags a top-rated recruit.) Think about the year that Hoke signed 5 of the top 24 LBs (among 96 total being competed for) - that left 19 upper-echelon LBs to be split among the other 23 prestigious teams… the laws of space and time dictates that multiple prestigious schools missed out on a top-24 LB. Hoke won big, someone had to lose... and Michigan was eventually blessed with great LB play.
Thus, another look at Michigan’s current class, utilizing the composite position rank of each player published by 247, and in a format simulating an approximate line-up on the field:
K - #1, Nordin
WR - #19, Crawford
WR - #54, Hawkins
TE - #3, Asiasi
OT - #5, Bredeson
OG - #4, Onwenu
C – None
OG - #32, Spanellis
OT – None
TE - #15 Eubanks, #45 McKeon
WR/Ath - #9 Mitchell
Slot WR - #64 McDoom, #93 Johnson (ranked as WRs, still made top-96 which is impressive for slot-types.)
QB - #6 Peters
RB - #4 Walker
FB - #1, Davis
APB - #9 Evans
CB - #8, Long
S - #23, Hudson
S - #49, Metellus, #65 Gil
CB - #12, Hill (and #9ATH, Mitchell)
OLB – None
ILB - #12, Bush, Jr
ILB - #17, Mbem-Bosse
OLB – None
SDE - #15, Kemp (and #1DT Gary)
DT - #1, Gary
DT - #58, Dwumfour (and #4OG, Onwenu)
WDE - #23 Johnson, #45 Uche
Without applying advanced statistics to determine deviation from a random spread of the top sought recruits by position (because I don’t know how…) it appears via eye-ball (a time-honored non-statistical test) that Michigan won big at Kicker, FB, QB, TE, OG, CB, and ILB. Further, Michigan won at WR, RB, APB, SDE and DT, while holding serve at S and WDE. Losses were at OT (although Bredeson on his own is a big win,) Center and OLB.
Therefore, our 2016 recruiting record was: 12 – 3 – 2. Seven of those wins were blow-outs, one of those losses was a nail-biter (dammit, Hamilton/Swenson.)
On a positive note, Denard finished the game with 122 yards today including that explosive 67 yarder that was incredible to see in person. This brings his career total to 4,395 yards--just 85 yards short of Pat White's 4,480 with a bowl game left to play. I know a few weeks ago it looked like a lost cause, but I now think he has a great shot of doing it.
Anyways, just trying to bring some happiness to the board and I didn't see this posted yet.
As a side note, chill out people. Please. Yell at your cat or punch a pillow instead. Don't give these guys any more satisfaction than they already have.
so Nick Saban coached for years at Michigan State with a 34-24 record. Then he went to LSU and became a god, going 48-16. with a national title.
He jumps to the Dolphins, where he goes 9-7 and then 6-10.......at which point, he jumps back to Alabama, where he goes 55-12 with 2 National Championships.
So Nicky poo is no great shakes, except when he is SEC. What gives?
Do you think he couldnt win with equal talent (even MSU has significantly higher standards than any SEC school, so no bringing in truckloads of JUCO stars), but the SEC' s low academic standards allow him to stockpile superior talent?
Lets face it the SEC lets the bullshit fly. Cam Newton and Fairley each spent about one semester attending classes at Auburn, but were "juniors" when they left after their championship season.
So I was starting to think about the attendance for this game and how it might compare to the record setting game against UConn. I feel like we should be able to break it again as there could be more away fans than the first game. Is it possible to approach 115,000?!?!
This is a going to be a great game against a big rival (3rd biggest?), what does the MGoCommunity predict for numbers?
I say north of 114,000.
I know, it's way to early to speculate. Either way, who do you think will have a better record in '09 between Michigan and Notre Dame?
I think it's a toss up. Michigan will be improved and probably around 7 to 8 wins and Notre Dame can't get any worse with that talent. We both have easier schedules too, including we get them at home year.
I always measure our record up against ND becasue I don't want to lose the overall winning percentage... that's my ace in the hole when I argue with fans from ND, OSU, etc.