Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • 2014 Recruiting Board, Offense
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • Notes on 2013 B1G and Other QBs
    MCalibur - 15 hours ago
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part IV - A NEW HOKE)
    Ron Utah - 1 day ago
  • APR And Big Ten Football: A High-Level Summary
    LSAClassOf2000 - 1 day ago
  • On Endowment, Financial Aid, and Perceived Prestige
    maizeonblueaction - 2 days ago
  • The Blockhams in "SPARTYCAN'T"
    Six Zero - 6 days ago
  •  
  • 1 of 5
  • ››
more
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part II - THE MISTAKE)
    Ron Utah - 1,520 views
  • Devin and the White Rainbow
    MCalibur - 1,116 views
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part I)
    Ron Utah - 1,095 views
  • The Blockhams in "SPARTYCAN'T"
    Six Zero - 1,057 views
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part III - HOKE IS A STRATEGY)
    Ron Utah - 929 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part II - THE MISTAKE)
    Ron Utah - 52 comments
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part IV - A NEW HOKE)
    Ron Utah - 39 comments
  • Notes on 2010 Big Ten and Other QBs
    MCalibur - 38 comments
  • On Endowment, Financial Aid, and Perceived Prestige
    maizeonblueaction - 35 comments
  • Who is Al Borges? (Part III - HOKE IS A STRATEGY)
    Ron Utah - 19 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Michigan could be taking 4 receivers
    46 replies
  • OT- RIP James Gandolfini
    53 replies
  • Women's Hoops Hello: Akienreh Johnson (#34, 2016 class)
    6 replies
  • OT: Kentucky Football Pulling It Together
    62 replies
  • Hello: Garrett Moores (2013 Catholic Central walkon QB)
    51 replies
  • MLIVE per ESPN: Derrick Green "Future Star"
    54 replies
  • OT: Plans Unveiled for Wings New Arena
    116 replies
  • OT - US soccer players who play for foreign countries
    40 replies
  • OT: GIF Tourney IV
    32 replies
  • CIC to Consider Starting Own Coursera-like System, BTN-style
    13 replies
  • MgoUser Crystal Ball Picks
    56 replies
  • NCAA 14 Demo: Early Returns & Gripes
    56 replies
  • Alabama prompts water feature war
    15 replies
  • Brian to speak in Chicago - AAUM Chicago
    43 replies
  • Additional endzone tickets are available
    41 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 8
  • ››
  • OT: Kentucky Football Pulling It Together
    62 replies
  • Women's Hoops Hello: Akienreh Johnson (#34, 2016 class)
    6 replies
  • Michigan could be taking 4 receivers
    46 replies
  • OT- RIP James Gandolfini
    53 replies
  • Hello: Garrett Moores (2013 Catholic Central walkon QB)
    51 replies
  • OT - US soccer players who play for foreign countries
    40 replies
  • MLIVE per ESPN: Derrick Green "Future Star"
    54 replies
  • OT: Plans Unveiled for Wings New Arena
    116 replies
  • NCAA 14 Demo: Early Returns & Gripes
    56 replies
  • Urban Meyer and Charlie Strong's "Core Values"
    133 replies
  • Alabama prompts water feature war
    15 replies
  • OT: GIF Tourney IV
    32 replies
  • Additional endzone tickets are available
    41 replies
  • MgoUser Crystal Ball Picks
    56 replies
  • One of the top DE in 2015 commits to GameCocks and trashes their academics!
    38 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 8
  • ››
  • Coolest/favorite Michigan thing you own?
    142 replies
  • Urban Meyer and Charlie Strong's "Core Values"
    133 replies
  • OT: Man Of Steel. Wow
    129 replies
  • OT: City of Detroit Epic Comeback? (Business Insider)
    125 replies
  • High Noon with Rich Rodriguez and the Arizona Football Staff
    123 replies
  • OT: Plans Unveiled for Wings New Arena
    116 replies
  • ND to play ASU in football series
    112 replies
  • OT: NBA Finals Game 6 overtime open thread
    112 replies
  • OT-4* recruit (non Michigan) posting really dumb things
    101 replies
  • NCAA 14 Demo thoughts; MGoBlogger PSN/Gamertag list
    97 replies
  • OT: Cool Story Bro!
    96 replies
  • MSU doesn't know who they're recruiting
    93 replies
  • 2015 OL Jon Runyan Jr. Offered - Buckle Up
    91 replies
  • MGoProfile to Return This Week
    77 replies
  • Cornwell to Bama
    76 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 8
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Babcock: 'Glendening will play at the next level, for sure''

    premature congrats. One thing we can be sure of: he'll take fewer asinine penalties than Abdelkader

    1 comments
  • Spurrier may have to come up with a new UT spelling joke.

    Thanks to ugly transitions between Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley/Davis, Tennessee is on the edge of APR penalties for football.

    1 comments
  • Report: NCAA ditching domes prior to Final Four

    i approve of this message

    0 comments
  • San Antonio Spurs may be doing something right by drafting international athletes

    strong indictment of AAU right heah

    0 comments
  • NBA draft 2013 Toss Up: Better PG prospect, Trey Burke or Michael Carter-Williams

    Glockner sides with justice

    0 comments
  • Brady Hoke-coached fantasy camp raises $140K for prostate cancer research

    a good cause, and a good time

    0 comments
  • Michigan men's basketball receives high academic honor with APR Public Recognition Award

    good job gents

    0 comments
  • Tournament trash talk helped Mitch McGary complete massive turnaround, Bacari Alexander says

    "Jeff Withey shouldn't have called him Peter Dinklage, is all I'm saying."

    1 comments
  • ESPN drops Trey Burke five spots in mock draft, says Orlando is questioning his worth at No. 2

    this would be bad if it wasn't LIES

    4 comments
  • How he Drew it up

    Drew Henson's career, or not quite career, or whatever.

    0 comments
  • 2016 big man Caleb Swanigan recaps Michigan trip

    “I’m more of a back-to-the-basket type of big man that rebounds a lot,” Swanigan said on Wednesday, describing his game. “I have a Zach Randolph type of game — that’s who I base my game off of. Being physical and playing with both hands on the rim.”

    0 comments
  • Walton Jr. waits in wings for Michigan

    “He passes, he makes other guys better and he can score the ball as well. With that freshman adjustment, it’s all about how quickly you adjust to the speed of the game and the length of the players on the court,” Jordan said. “We know he has good vision and passing ability. Kids come in as freshmen like Trey and they don’t know what to say from a leadership standpoint, so they’re just listening and that’s where the other guys come in and show them the ropes.”

    0 comments
  • ‹‹
  • 2 of 2
  •  
more

psu

Post game thoughts PSU

By SheridanForHeisman — March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 PM — 99 comments
Filed under:
  • MGoBoard
  • 2013 Big Ten Tournament
  • basketball
  • psu
  • snowflakes
Post your snowflakes here. Mitch mcGary got a double-double and trey burke was well...trey burke
  • 99 comments

M vs PSU second half open thread

By inthebluelot — February 17th, 2013 at 2:13 PM — 55 comments
Filed under:
  • MGoBoard
  • basketball
  • bball
  • burke
  • GR3
  • McGary
  • psu
  • stauskas
  • UM
GR3 monster jam time!
  • 55 comments

McQueary files new lawsuits - PSU/Sandusky

By Blazefire — October 3rd, 2012 at 10:36 AM — 27 comments
Filed under:
  • MGoBoard
  • McQueary
  • N/A
  • psu
  • Sandusky

I know we just want this to be over, but I thought this should be covered, because it's new PSU stupidity. If you don't want to hear anymore about it, stop reading now. At this point, you have to wonder how much more PSU's athletic department can take.

I'm not sure if these are two independent suits, or flipsides of the same suit, but it reads like they are independent, which I think would make sense. They can be filed independently, and then that gives him two shots to win. Can an MGoLawyer confirm if that makes sense? Filing two separate lawsuits that each have the same final aim if there is a separate legal tennent for filing each one?

First off:

McQueary files whistleblower lawsuit

Evidently, McQueary was shocked to find out he was the ONLY member of the football coaching staff A: not offered a chance to interview for his old job under the new head coach, and B: to not have his legal fees covered by the university.

Now, the legal fees thing might not have merrit, because as I recall, McQueary electeed to get his own laywer rather than be represented by the university, because he feared the legal association (I could be wrong on that. I can't find a source that confirms it). However, if the univeristy paid for anybody else's independent lawyers, then that ones got legs.

The other issue, not being interviewed for his old job under a new coach, leaves them with no legal recourse, I think. If they had made a clean break, and told everybody from the old staff, "We're cleaning house, 100%", they might be okay. But to only leave him out? Do they not have a legal staff in their HR department over there?

Seeking: $4 Million, Legal Fees

Suit two:

McQueary files defamation suit

In this case, McQueary states that the Three Stooges - Spanier, Curley and Shulltz, worked together in public and behind university closed doors to discredit McQueary and make him a scapegoat and clearly indicated on several occasions that McQueary was a liar. He claims that this has ruined his reputation for honesty and dedication in the local and higher-education communities.

Seeking: $4 Million, Reinstatement, Lost Bowl Bonus, Legal Fees, Back Pay and Benefits

  • 27 comments

Bill O'Brien's situation, what do you think? (edited)

By El Tigre — July 25th, 2012 at 4:23 PM — 53 comments
Filed under:
  • MGoBoard
  • Bill O'Brien
  • football
  • psu

I think Bill O'Brien has been granted a tremendous opportunity at PSU. For the next 4 years PSU football will celebrate wins like the super bowl and blame the losses on Mark Emmert and the NCAA. O'Brien no longer has to worry about respecting the legacy and traditions of Penn State because they got nuked by the Freeh Report. He can now rebuild penn state in his image without the pressures of following one of college football's greatest coaches.  You think following Lloyd Carr at Michigan was hard, try following JoePa at PSU regardless of the circumstances.  He essentially has 4 years to prepare for the 2016 season and beyond and nobody can question his methods with "That's not how Joe did things". 

 

With smart, targeted recruiting strategies I think a school like Penn State, even with 65 scholarships, can be competitive in the B1G.  I don't think Bill O'Brien is in as bad a situation as we think, but it could be a glass half-full viewpoint.

  • 53 comments

Is There No PSU Fan Who Gets It?

By UMgradMSUdad — July 24th, 2012 at 6:26 AM — 65 comments
Filed under:
  • football
  • Jerry Sandusky
  • Joe Paterno
  • Penn State
  • psu

 

Is there no Penn State fan who truly gets it?

I’ve been browsing fan websites for weeks, looking for a sign that Penn State fans understand why there is such enduring controversy surrounding their football program and school.  I can’t say that I’ve seen evidence that even a single fan really gets it.  The current president of the university seems to understand, but the most vocal PSU fans and alumni want to ride him out of town on a rail. The PSU fans seem to respond to the lunatic fringe of the blogosphere with answers to questions that no sane person is asking.

For example, PSU fans acknowledge that pedophilia is horrible and should never occur, but then act as though that somehow shows that they “get it.”

PSU fans list all the positive attributes of Penn State, its football players, its graduates, etc., etc.  Yes, we sane “outsiders” all understand that there is more good than bad in Penn State and there is plenty to be proud of.  Again, that’s never been in question, except to the lunatic fringe.

It is the next point, though, that begins to get at the crux of the problem. PSU fans point out the half truth that this sort of thing happens everywhere. Yes, child sex abuse is far more prevalent than most people realize, and most of us probably do know someone who has been abused and very well may know an abuser without realizing it.  These truths, though, ignore the difference, the reason Penn State is singled out and stands alone among US universities (as far as we know): at no other institution were there repeated allegations of child sex abuse that rose to the very top of the university where the response was to cover up, protect the pedophile, thereby allowing him to continue abusing children for over a decade.

Now, many PSU fans do acknowledge this last point, but almost none without spinning it in such a way to convince themselves it was just an isolated incident with just a few bad apples (I don’t know how many times I’ve heard it was just one monster and two, perhaps three others) and they are now out of the university, so the problem has been resolved.  That third individual, which many PSU fans still refuse to acknowledge, played a role in this is a if not the central figure in the cover up.  Joe Paterno, for all the teaching and preaching (and leading by example) he did about honor, integrity, doing things “the right way,” failed miserably on the biggest test to ever come his way.  There is no getting around this.  But these are the points I’m waiting for a Penn State fan to acknowledge, and it is some semblance of refusal to acknowledge these or similar points that leads to many saying Penn State fans still don’t get it:

1)      There was a cult of personality surrounding Joe Paterno.  This is not unique to PSU, so I’m not quite sure why there is such resistance to acknowledging this point.  The only difference might be that Joe Pa’s longevity and success led to a level of reverence perhaps never achieved at another university.

 

2)      Joe Paterno was the most powerful individual at Penn State for decades.

 

3)      While he might not be culpable legally under Pennsylvania law, morally and ethically Paterno failed the child abuse victims and the community by not doing more to stop Jerry Sandusky.

 

4)      When the most powerful person on campus, the athletic director, and the president of the university all cover up and enable a child rapist to continue his abuse for decades, and others in far lower positions in the university are afraid to come forward with complaints there is a question that must be asked and answered: who or what enabled the enablers?

  • UMgradMSUdad's blog
  • 65 comments

OT: Likely Big Ten action against PSU, too?

By MGlobules — July 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 PM — 62 comments
Filed under:
  • MGoBoard
  • crime
  • football
  • paterno
  • psu
  • Sandusky

U Iowa President Sally Mason told the Des Moines Register today that the B1G has jurisdiction to punish PSU and will be watching the NCAA's actions closely before considering how to address the Sandusky issue; she's current chair of the conference's presidents and chancellors. 

According to last week's Chronicle For Higher Education "conference bylaws require any member that fails to show complete, accurate information during an investigation to 'show cause why its membership in the conference should not be suspended or terminated.'"

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19633881

I am in the dark about how the presidents and chancellors may be viewing the crimes and scandal associated with them, and curious how people think or are aware this is being viewed in academic quarters (what is being mumbled by the professoriat and admin around the water cooler?) An associated question is just how PSU was viewed before the scandal--as a member in good standing of the Big Ten?

Would some kind of probationary status for PSU be appropriate?

  • 62 comments
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • next ›
  • last »
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.